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[I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
snowsky opened a new issue, #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699
### Apache Airflow version
2.9.2
### If "Other Airflow 2 version" selected, which one?
_No response_
### What happened?
I don't mind to challenge @potiuk's authority if I am not making a mistake, https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions/40590. What I need, and I think this may also help others, to make sure Airflow is not impacted by Polyfill. Sorry, I'm stubborn when I want to find an answer.
### What you think should happen instead?
_No response_
### How to reproduce
N/A
### Operating System
Linux
### Versions of Apache Airflow Providers
_No response_
### Deployment
Official Apache Airflow Helm Chart
### Deployment details
_No response_
### Anything else?
_No response_
### Are you willing to submit PR?
- [ ] Yes I am willing to submit a PR!
### Code of Conduct
- [X] I agree to follow this project's [Code of Conduct](https://github.com/apache/airflow/blob/main/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md)
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "potiuk (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
potiuk commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2221349640
You can derive answer from the discussion
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "potiuk (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
potiuk commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2222113251
Yes you are stubborn. I propose you apply those points to your situation:
* be open - to the fact that sometimes when you get software for free, it's up to you to investigate and if you have an easy * way to check if there is a dependency used, you can check it
* be empathetic to the maintainers here. Asking security related question will raise their hair (if they still have them - I don't) and doing it unnecessarily (as explained multiple time but you seem to be ignoring it every single time I mention it) is a noise that drags then out from other issues. Every day there are many 10s of high/critical issues. If we have every user of ours asking about security issues in unrelated dependencies that we DON'T have and expect an answer, we would stop developing Airflow
* be collaborative - I asked you several times to collaborate and double check if the dependency you mentioned is even used by Airflow and gave you means to do so - so that you
* be inqusitive - and learn how to check it next time without bothering anyone
* be careful with the words you chosoe and concise - maybe
I propose you:
* step down considerably
Also - for the inquisitive part: I propose you watch teh talk I gave at Airflow summit about empathy https://airflowsummit.org/sessions/2022/hey-maintainer-exercise-your-empathy/ - where I try to explain that both maintainer and users should exercise more empathy. You should watch it and try to put yourself in maintainer shoes and see why rather than giving direct answer I did what I dit - mainly so that you (and 10s of others) are not coming next time and aksing similar questions about unrelated security issues but go and check on their own using the means we already have.
You might also look at the stats of the discussion and find out that I am consistently most helpful person there (by far) who answers and helps our users a lot when they need help. But I also think it's worth to teach people like you how they can make use of the information they have rather than introduce noise.
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "boring-cyborg[bot] (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
boring-cyborg[bot] commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2221285764
Thanks for opening your first issue here! Be sure to follow the issue template! If you are willing to raise PR to address this issue please do so, no need to wait for approval.
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "potiuk (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
potiuk closed issue #40699: A wild discussion turns to an issue
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "snowsky (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
snowsky commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2223089411
Again I don't think what you said is on behalf of Airflow or Apache Foundation. It is your point of view. From the video you said you rejected requests very frankly. This is against `Be Open` policy. You are shutting down many potential good developers. If you promote this in your video but didn't mention it doesn't relate to the organization as a disclaimer, you are blurring the boundary between self view and organization vision. The organization should not publish your video to the public as well.
Next time, please don't repeat others view so you will not be labeled as suspicious Plagiarism. I'm tired of talking to you as many others that you don't see what I'm seeing. But if you'd like I can show what I have seen, and at the same time, I can listen to you because I'm more `Be Open`. Lol
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "snowsky (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
snowsky commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2221629231
According to https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html, I think @potiuk is not
- Be open
- Be [empathetic](https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct#endnotes), welcoming, friendly, and patient
- Be collaborative
- Be inquisitive
- Be careful in the words that we choose
- Be concise
But only fit the last one:
- Step down considerately
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "snowsky (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
snowsky commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2221623921
> You can derive answer from the discussion
Haha, you do have powers. Let us be technical, deriving is not always technical.
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "potiuk (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
potiuk commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2223142867
No but I am open to convert it into discussion and see if anyone would be willing to comment on it.
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "potiuk (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
potiuk closed issue #40699: A wild discussion turns to an issue
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "snowsky (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
snowsky commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2223091924
Don't pretend to be helpful by shutting down people! This is a psycho game but I don't buy it.
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Re: [I] A wild discussion turns to an issue [airflow]
Posted by "snowsky (via GitHub)" <gi...@apache.org>.
snowsky commented on issue #40699:
URL: https://github.com/apache/airflow/issues/40699#issuecomment-2223094943
If you label yourself `Be Open`, can you reopen the issue to let others join the discussion?
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