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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com> on 2004/09/16 13:34:20 UTC
mod_lenya
Dear All
Gregor Imboden and I have developed an Apache module which makes
a Lenya powered website really fast. You can download it from
http://www.wyona.org
resp.
http://www.wyona.org/mod_lenya.tar.gz
There is a nice README included ;-)
If the community likes it then we can certainly donate it to Apache.
Next step would be to generalize it (as I once described it in a
previous email)
Michi
--
Michael Wechner
Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
michael.wechner@wyona.com michi@apache.org
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Re: mod_lenya
Posted by Gregor Imboden <gr...@wyona.com>.
> But maybe the config parameter name ProxyPrefix is confusing and we
> should change it to just "Prefix", because it has nothing to do with
> mod_proxy
I changed it to "Prefix", the new mod_lenya is now on wyona.org
Gregor
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Re: mod_lenya
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Torsten Schlabach wrote:
>Look interesting. But what I don't like about it is that it still relies on
>mod_proxy.
>
It doesn't rely on mod_proxy, but rather passes the request
back into Apache when the file cannot be found within the cache
directory, which means one can use any other module, e.g. mod_jk2,
after that.
But maybe the config parameter name ProxyPrefix is confusing and we
should change it to just "Prefix", because it has nothing to do with
mod_proxy
> I don't think it is very elegant to have Apache parse a URL just
>to send it out again pretty much unchanged to Tomcat. I would like a
>solution based on JK2 (mod_jk2).
>
that's what the mod_jk2 website is saying ;-)
but yes, there is certainly plenty of room for improvement.
As I stated in a previous email, it would be nice if the servlet API
would support the caching itself and that you could enable a connector
(e.g. via mod_jk2) to talk to Apache or any other server re caching
requests or deleting from cache.
>
>The solution would probably be to introduce some simple rewriting into
>mod_jk2. I think a lot of Cocoon users would love that as well if they want
>to serve different sites out of the same instance of Cocoon in order to
>conserve memory.
>
>
yes, in the end it has nothing to do with Lenya, but what
is actually needed is a dependency manager in order to the tell the
cache what needs to be deleted if something has changed. Lenya is
kind of acting is a dependency manager when publishing documents.
>(Ok, this discussion rather belongs on a very different mailing list.)
>
>
well, sometimes it's good to start somewhere and then go from there
instead of talking about it forever. Projects can always be moved ;-)
Michi
>Torsten
>
>
>
>>Dear All
>>
>>Gregor Imboden and I have developed an Apache module which makes
>>a Lenya powered website really fast. You can download it from
>>
>>http://www.wyona.org
>>
>>resp.
>>
>>http://www.wyona.org/mod_lenya.tar.gz
>>
>>There is a nice README included ;-)
>>
>>If the community likes it then we can certainly donate it to Apache.
>>
>>Next step would be to generalize it (as I once described it in a
>>previous email)
>>
>>Michi
>>
>>--
>>Michael Wechner
>>Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
>>http://www.wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
>>michael.wechner@wyona.com michi@apache.org
>>
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Re: mod_lenya
Posted by Torsten Schlabach <TS...@gmx.net>.
Look interesting. But what I don't like about it is that it still relies on
mod_proxy. I don't think it is very elegant to have Apache parse a URL just
to send it out again pretty much unchanged to Tomcat. I would like a
solution based on JK2 (mod_jk2). This would have some advantages, such as
* if the Tomcat was on the same machine, it could run using sockets or
in-process (speed!)
* There would be no need for Tomcat having an "open" http port like 8080 or
the like (clean, security!)
* Load balancing would be possible.
Of course it is not a problem to run Lenya through mod_jk2. The only problem
is that I did not yet find any URL rewriting mechanism or proxy mechanism
that would allow to turn http://www.host.com/index.html into
http://www.host.com/lenya/hostpub/live/index.html.
I experiemented with mod_rewrite, but once a URL is rewritten Apache
considers this a file anyway and does not pass it to mod_jk2 anymore. Or it
foces a client redirect (HTTP 302) which will make the redirected URL
visible in the user's browser which is what you don't want.
The solution would probably be to introduce some simple rewriting into
mod_jk2. I think a lot of Cocoon users would love that as well if they want
to serve different sites out of the same instance of Cocoon in order to
conserve memory.
(Ok, this discussion rather belongs on a very different mailing list.)
Torsten
> Dear All
>
> Gregor Imboden and I have developed an Apache module which makes
> a Lenya powered website really fast. You can download it from
>
> http://www.wyona.org
>
> resp.
>
> http://www.wyona.org/mod_lenya.tar.gz
>
> There is a nice README included ;-)
>
> If the community likes it then we can certainly donate it to Apache.
>
> Next step would be to generalize it (as I once described it in a
> previous email)
>
> Michi
>
> --
> Michael Wechner
> Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
> http://www.wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
> michael.wechner@wyona.com michi@apache.org
>
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Re: mod_lenya
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote
> the good old vignette 404-redirector. Nice!
>
> it would be kinda cool to integrate this functionality with the new
> mod_proxy_ajp module instead of reinventing the wheel.
thanks for the pointer
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.1/mod/mod_proxy_ajp.html
It seems to me that there are a lot of people which would like
to have something like that (not just Java), but we just need to get
started somewhere.
Maybe I can try to organize a BOF during the upcoming OSCOM conference
or during the upcoming Cocoon GetTogether.
Anyway, Gregor Imboden and I will talk about it at ApacheCon and I hope
we will be able to make some progress re generalization until then.
Michi
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Wyona Inc. - Open Source Content Management - Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com http://cocoon.apache.org/lenya/
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Re: mod_lenya
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Michael Wechner wrote:
> Dear All
>
> Gregor Imboden and I have developed an Apache module which makes
> a Lenya powered website really fast. You can download it from
>
> http://www.wyona.org
>
> resp.
>
> http://www.wyona.org/mod_lenya.tar.gz
>
> There is a nice README included ;-)
>
> If the community likes it then we can certainly donate it to Apache.
>
> Next step would be to generalize it (as I once described it in a
> previous email)
the good old vignette 404-redirector. Nice!
it would be kinda cool to integrate this functionality with the new
mod_proxy_ajp module instead of reinventing the wheel.
--
Stefano.
Re: mod_lenya
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Michael Wechner dijo:
> Dear All
>
> Gregor Imboden and I have developed an Apache module which makes
> a Lenya powered website really fast. You can download it from
>
> http://www.wyona.org
>
> resp.
>
> http://www.wyona.org/mod_lenya.tar.gz
>
> There is a nice README included ;-)
>
> If the community likes it then we can certainly donate it to Apache.
+1!
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
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