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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@gmail.com> on 2004/12/28 12:06:50 UTC
Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
<ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
> Now, circling the basement is not conducive to coherence, or correct
> spelling I suspect, so I'm going to ramble a bit here in vague
> justification. Jakarta is different to other TLP's in that it's an
> umbrella. One of the reasons I like the approach above is that it is
> playing to Jakarta's role as an umbrella. Each project will link directly
> to the dynamic resource page, ie) closer.cgi for downloads. Jakarta then
> provides an umbrella navigation system for when people want to see all
> this information from a single location and not click on each sub-project.
The fact that Jakarta is an umbrella and then commons is an umbrella
inside it was confusing me for a while and I know of many people who
still are confused about that. Maybe a bit OT, but I really like the
idea of Jakarta becoming an extended commons project with all larger
projects going TLP.
> 1) Demo Builds, Milestone Builds: Do we even use these terms regularly? We
> have 1 demo build, and I thought we did RC's rather than Milestones. I'm
I thought a milestone is very different from an RC. A milestone is
something even *before beta* feature freeze with only partial features
implemented. An RC is *after* beta directly before or even identical
to the the final release. I may be wrong, though...
Oliver
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Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.
Posted by Oliver Zeigermann <ol...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 08:19:09 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
<ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
> > <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 1) Demo Builds, Milestone Builds: Do we even use these terms regularly? We
> >> have 1 demo build, and I thought we did RC's rather than Milestones. I'm
> >
> > I thought a milestone is very different from an RC. A milestone is
> > something even *before beta* feature freeze with only partial features
> > implemented. An RC is *after* beta directly before or even identical
> > to the the final release. I may be wrong, though...
>
> I thought so too, until I looked at the actual downloads we have under the
> Milestone section. They're all RC's, and a tiny handful of the huge number
> of RC's that Jakarta produces. With a night's sleep behind me, I'd like to
> kill both the Demo and Milestone sections of the Jakarta index.
>
> Sub-projects can (and will I'm sure) still make them, we just wouldn't
> bother to index them at the top level.
Slide 2.1 had at least one (real) milestone in it's release cycle, but
I guess it would be ok to have it accessible from Slide's pages only.
Oliver
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Re: Jakarta download pages Was: download pages in j.a.o.
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004, Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 23:27:51 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
> <ba...@generationjava.com> wrote:
>
>> 1) Demo Builds, Milestone Builds: Do we even use these terms regularly? We
>> have 1 demo build, and I thought we did RC's rather than Milestones. I'm
>
> I thought a milestone is very different from an RC. A milestone is
> something even *before beta* feature freeze with only partial features
> implemented. An RC is *after* beta directly before or even identical
> to the the final release. I may be wrong, though...
I thought so too, until I looked at the actual downloads we have under the
Milestone section. They're all RC's, and a tiny handful of the huge number
of RC's that Jakarta produces. With a night's sleep behind me, I'd like to
kill both the Demo and Milestone sections of the Jakarta index.
Sub-projects can (and will I'm sure) still make them, we just wouldn't
bother to index them at the top level.
Hen
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