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Minimalistic Docs
Hi,
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"Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide"
There is no such word as 'minimalistic'. The adjective is 'minimalist', and
probably in this case, simply 'minimal' would be even better.
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RE: Minimalistic Docs
Posted by Tomas Rokicki <ro...@instantis.com>.
Oops; different dictionaries disagree on the possible
meanings of minimalist. Sorry. (My OED is at home.)
-tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold Shore [mailto:ashore@dgs.dgsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:15 AM
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Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs
And a minimalistic use of "Minimalistic" would be "Minimal".
as
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:cks@distributopia.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Minimalistic Docs
Anthony Holland wrote:
>
> "Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide"
>
> There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.
>
In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
In the style of a minimalist.
Minimalistic.
Works for me.
"Minimalist User's Guide" would imply that the user's
guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
while "Minimalistic" implies that the guide is in the
style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.
"A Minimalist's Guide" might work.
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RE: Minimalistic Docs
Posted by Micael Padraig Og mac Grene <ca...@harbornet.com>.
At 09:56 AM 1/17/02 +0200, you wrote:
>well, minimal meaning 1c and minimalist meaning 2 (below) look pretty similar
>to me, but as Tom says, the latter suggests intent. Then again, the fact that
>it is in the title also does a fair job suggesting intent. Let's just steer
>away from anything pretentious. I vote for minimalist.
>
>http://www.dictionary.com - great resource!
>
>enough of this :)
>
>ant
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tomas Rokicki [mailto:rokicki@instantis.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:17 PM
> > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs
> >
> >
> > Well, if you believe dictionaries:
> >
> > minimal: adj.
> > 1a Smallest in amount or degree.
> > 1b Small in amount or degree.
> > 1c Only barely adequate.
> > 2 often Minimal Of, relating to, or being minimalism
> >
> > minimalist: n.
> > 1 One who advocates a moderate or conservative approach, action, or policy,
> > as in a political or governmental organization.
> > 2 A practitioner of minimalism.
> >
> > minimalist: adj.
> > 1 Of, relating to, characteristic of, or in the style of minimalism.
> > 2 Being or providing a bare minimum of what is necessary.
> >
> > So minimal is clearly not what we mean, but the second adjective definition
> > is clearly what we mean. So minimalist seems to work. Minimalistic is
> > clearly not a word. Minimal means, and further, connotes, the wrong
> > thing.
> >
> > Don't techies ever use dictionaries?
> >
> > -tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Arnold Shore [mailto:ashore@dgs.dgsys.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:15 AM
> > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs
> >
> >
> > And a minimalistic use of "Minimalistic" would be "Minimal".
> >
> > as
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:cks@distributopia.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
> > To: Tomcat Developers List
> > Subject: Re: Minimalistic Docs
> >
> >
> > Anthony Holland wrote:
> > >
> > > "Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide"
> > >
> > > There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.
> > >
> >
> >
> > In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
> > In the style of a minimalist.
> > Minimalistic.
> >
> > Works for me.
> >
> > "Minimalist User's Guide" would imply that the user's
> > guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
> > while "Minimalistic" implies that the guide is in the
> > style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.
> >
> > "A Minimalist's Guide" might work.
> >
What are you two talking about? The connotation, as well as the
denotation, of something, by the way, IS its meaning. If you are using
"A Minimalist's Guide" as the name of a publication, your English is
wrong. In that case, "Minimalist's" is a nominative-adjective and it
should be "A Minimalists Guide". This is a standard mistake, usually not
made by good sign companies, however. Also, the conclusions you draw about
"Minimalist User's Guide" (should be "Minimalist Users Guide") and "A
Minimalist's Guide" (should be "A Minimalists Guide") are backward. The
latter could be a use of the noun, although that would be unlikely, while
the former could not be such a use.
You guys have too much time on your hands, like me. ;-)
How about, if you want not to be pedantic, "An Austere Guide"? Of course,
I don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Micael
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RE: Minimalistic Docs
Posted by Anthony Holland <an...@zenaptix.com>.
well, minimal meaning 1c and minimalist meaning 2 (below) look pretty similar
to me, but as Tom says, the latter suggests intent. Then again, the fact that
it is in the title also does a fair job suggesting intent. Let's just steer
away from anything pretentious. I vote for minimalist.
http://www.dictionary.com - great resource!
enough of this :)
ant
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tomas Rokicki [mailto:rokicki@instantis.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:17 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs
>
>
> Well, if you believe dictionaries:
>
> minimal: adj.
> 1a Smallest in amount or degree.
> 1b Small in amount or degree.
> 1c Only barely adequate.
> 2 often Minimal Of, relating to, or being minimalism
>
> minimalist: n.
> 1 One who advocates a moderate or conservative approach, action, or policy,
> as in a political or governmental organization.
> 2 A practitioner of minimalism.
>
> minimalist: adj.
> 1 Of, relating to, characteristic of, or in the style of minimalism.
> 2 Being or providing a bare minimum of what is necessary.
>
> So minimal is clearly not what we mean, but the second adjective definition
> is clearly what we mean. So minimalist seems to work. Minimalistic is
> clearly not a word. Minimal means, and further, connotes, the wrong
> thing.
>
> Don't techies ever use dictionaries?
>
> -tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnold Shore [mailto:ashore@dgs.dgsys.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:15 AM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs
>
>
> And a minimalistic use of "Minimalistic" would be "Minimal".
>
> as
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:cks@distributopia.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List
> Subject: Re: Minimalistic Docs
>
>
> Anthony Holland wrote:
> >
> > "Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide"
> >
> > There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.
> >
>
>
> In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
> In the style of a minimalist.
> Minimalistic.
>
> Works for me.
>
> "Minimalist User's Guide" would imply that the user's
> guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
> while "Minimalistic" implies that the guide is in the
> style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.
>
> "A Minimalist's Guide" might work.
>
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RE: Minimalistic Docs
Posted by Tomas Rokicki <ro...@instantis.com>.
Well, if you believe dictionaries:
minimal: adj.
1a Smallest in amount or degree.
1b Small in amount or degree.
1c Only barely adequate.
2 often Minimal Of, relating to, or being minimalism
minimalist: n.
1 One who advocates a moderate or conservative approach, action, or policy,
as in a political or governmental organization.
2 A practitioner of minimalism.
minimalist: adj.
1 Of, relating to, characteristic of, or in the style of minimalism.
2 Being or providing a bare minimum of what is necessary.
So minimal is clearly not what we mean, but the second adjective definition
is clearly what we mean. So minimalist seems to work. Minimalistic is
clearly not a word. Minimal means, and further, connotes, the wrong
thing.
Don't techies ever use dictionaries?
-tom
-----Original Message-----
From: Arnold Shore [mailto:ashore@dgs.dgsys.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:15 AM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: RE: Minimalistic Docs
And a minimalistic use of "Minimalistic" would be "Minimal".
as
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:cks@distributopia.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: Minimalistic Docs
Anthony Holland wrote:
>
> "Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide"
>
> There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.
>
In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
In the style of a minimalist.
Minimalistic.
Works for me.
"Minimalist User's Guide" would imply that the user's
guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
while "Minimalistic" implies that the guide is in the
style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.
"A Minimalist's Guide" might work.
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RE: Minimalistic Docs
Posted by Arnold Shore <as...@dgs.dgsys.com>.
And a minimalistic use of "Minimalistic" would be "Minimal".
as
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher K. St. John [mailto:cks@distributopia.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:47 PM
To: Tomcat Developers List
Subject: Re: Minimalistic Docs
Anthony Holland wrote:
>
> "Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide"
>
> There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.
>
In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
In the style of a minimalist.
Minimalistic.
Works for me.
"Minimalist User's Guide" would imply that the user's
guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
while "Minimalistic" implies that the guide is in the
style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.
"A Minimalist's Guide" might work.
--
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Re: Minimalistic Docs
Posted by "Christopher K. St. John" <ck...@distributopia.com>.
Anthony Holland wrote:
>
> "Tomcat - A Minimalistic User's Guide"
>
> There is no such word as 'minimalistic'.
>
In the style of a member of the art movement Minimalism.
In the style of a minimalist.
Minimalistic.
Works for me.
"Minimalist User's Guide" would imply that the user's
guide has to do with the art movement (or communism),
while "Minimalistic" implies that the guide is in the
style of, but not actually about, Minimalism.
"A Minimalist's Guide" might work.
--
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