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Posted to users@cxf.apache.org by Phil Gibbs <ra...@bellsouth.net> on 2008/02/01 02:52:38 UTC
Re: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
Well, I have to agree. The docs seem to be the last thing that a developer
thinks about - because it's so obvious right? CXF, like a lot of software,
badly needs some end to end examples at the very least.
Currently, it's very lacking, as was XFire!
Mayank Thakore-2 wrote:
>
> well, i have spent a lot of time getting cxf to work.
> but migrating from xfire, our code reduced from about 1200 lines to 200
> lines.
> and i find cxf to be very extensible
>
> but it's not just coincidence that someone was talking about a book on
> cxf just today...
>
> Regards
> Mayank
>
> On Jan 23, 2008 8:36 PM, jonathan doklovic <jd...@sysbliss.com> wrote:
>> The point being that since this is a users list (not a dev list) I
>> thought I'd share my user experience in hopes that it could help the
>> future of the project.
>>
>> If all anyone hears about a project is how great it is and never hears
>> why people choose not to use it, then it never progresses.
>>
>> I was never able to get CXF working properly simply because of the lack
>> of simple docs and end-to-end examples. Maybe it's just that I don't
>> get it or something, but I feel there are probably a lot of "me's" out
>> there that struggle with getting things up and running.
>>
>> - Jonathan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 14:47 +0000, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>> > > After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple service to
>> > > return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro project and it's
>> > > jaxws-json plugin.
>> >
>> > What's the point of this post ? Say to the world that you're not
>> > happpy with CXF ?
>> > Or tell everyone that you could've commited a patch after spending 2
>> > days on it but just didn't get enough time :-) ?
>> >
>> > Cheers, Sergey
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "jonathan doklovic" <jd...@sysbliss.com>
>> > To: "cxfuser" <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:37 PM
>> > Subject: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple service to
>> > > return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro project and it's
>> > > jaxws-json plugin.
>> > >
>> > > I gave it a shot and after 2 hours had my service up and running.
>> > > Not only that, but the plugin generates pretty api docs at the
>> > endpoint
>> > > for me as well as generates a javascript client on the fly.
>> > >
>> > > It was just too easy to make me stick with CXF.
>> > >
>> > > I think CXF is probably a good framework, but the docs and examples
>> > are
>> > > in pieces and without real life end-to-end tutorials, it's really
>> > hard
>> > > to get things working.
>> > >
>> > > - Jonathan
>> > ----------------------------
>> > IONA Technologies PLC (registered in Ireland)
>> > Registered Number: 171387
>> > Registered Address: The IONA Building, Shelbourne Road, Dublin 4,
>> Ireland
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
Posted by Mayank Thakore <th...@gmail.com>.
I found some great cxf related documentation at this page when
checking request context recently:
http://open.iona.com/docs/framework/2.0/jaxws/index.html?url=http://open.iona.com/docs/framework/2.0/jaxws/JAXWSContextsService.html
this kind of stuff will help!
On 2/1/08, Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> OK. Let's flip this around a bit... Describe the type of example that
> would (or would have) helped you do what you wanted to do. We can work
> to get one in place.
>
> CXF has a bunch of samples already that cover a large variety of
> different configuations and samples. Knowing where they are deficient
> can help us get them improved.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thursday 31 January 2008, Phil Gibbs wrote:
> > Well, I have to agree. The docs seem to be the last thing that a
> > developer thinks about - because it's so obvious right? CXF, like a
> > lot of software, badly needs some end to end examples at the very
> > least.
> > Currently, it's very lacking, as was XFire!
> >
> > Mayank Thakore-2 wrote:
> > > well, i have spent a lot of time getting cxf to work.
> > > but migrating from xfire, our code reduced from about 1200 lines to
> > > 200 lines.
> > > and i find cxf to be very extensible
> > >
> > > but it's not just coincidence that someone was talking about a book
> > > on cxf just today...
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Mayank
> > >
> > > On Jan 23, 2008 8:36 PM, jonathan doklovic <jd...@sysbliss.com> wrote:
> > >> The point being that since this is a users list (not a dev list) I
> > >> thought I'd share my user experience in hopes that it could help
> > >> the future of the project.
> > >>
> > >> If all anyone hears about a project is how great it is and never
> > >> hears why people choose not to use it, then it never progresses.
> > >>
> > >> I was never able to get CXF working properly simply because of the
> > >> lack of simple docs and end-to-end examples. Maybe it's just that
> > >> I don't get it or something, but I feel there are probably a lot of
> > >> "me's" out there that struggle with getting things up and running.
> > >>
> > >> - Jonathan
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 14:47 +0000, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
> > >> > > After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple
> > >> > > service to return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro
> > >> > > project and it's jaxws-json plugin.
> > >> >
> > >> > What's the point of this post ? Say to the world that you're not
> > >> > happpy with CXF ?
> > >> > Or tell everyone that you could've commited a patch after
> > >> > spending 2 days on it but just didn't get enough time :-) ?
> > >> >
> > >> > Cheers, Sergey
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "jonathan doklovic" <jd...@sysbliss.com>
> > >> > To: "cxfuser" <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:37 PM
> > >> > Subject: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple
> > >> > > service to return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro
> > >> > > project and it's jaxws-json plugin.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I gave it a shot and after 2 hours had my service up and
> > >> > > running. Not only that, but the plugin generates pretty api
> > >> > > docs at the
> > >> >
> > >> > endpoint
> > >> >
> > >> > > for me as well as generates a javascript client on the fly.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > It was just too easy to make me stick with CXF.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think CXF is probably a good framework, but the docs and
> > >> > > examples
> > >> >
> > >> > are
> > >> >
> > >> > > in pieces and without real life end-to-end tutorials, it's
> > >> > > really
> > >> >
> > >> > hard
> > >> >
> > >> > > to get things working.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > - Jonathan
> > >> >
> > >> > ----------------------------
> > >> > IONA Technologies PLC (registered in Ireland)
> > >> > Registered Number: 171387
> > >> > Registered Address: The IONA Building, Shelbourne Road, Dublin 4,
> > >>
> > >> Ireland
>
>
>
> --
> J. Daniel Kulp
> Principal Engineer, IONA
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
>
Re: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
Posted by Willem Jiang <wi...@gmail.com>.
AFAIK you just have trouble to create the DynamicClientFactory instance,
which mainly create the CXF bus instance.
I think you can try out to deploy the basic simples into your Tomcat6.
May be it will show you the key of the issue.
You can download the CXF kit here[1] , and try the
$CXF_HOME\samples\wsdl_first
[1]http://cwiki.apache.org/CXF/download.html
Willem.
Phil Gibbs wrote:
> Being a selfish soul, I'd like to see a Dynamic Client example. I saw one on
> this forum and sort of used that code to create my own but it throws an
> exception creating an instance of DynamicClientFactory as in,
> DynamicClientFactory dcf = DynamicClientFactory.newInstance();
> The exception provides zero info and there's nothing in the log (on Tomcat
> 6)
> By the way I'm trying to invoke a service that I wrote in my XFire days.
> Using Dynamic Client in XFire it works fine.
> Any help greatly appreciated. Oh, I'm also trying to build with Maven as i
> did when using XFire, but I cannot get it to work even when pointing to the
> CXF artifacts.
>
>
> dkulp wrote:
>
>> OK. Let's flip this around a bit... Describe the type of example that
>> would (or would have) helped you do what you wanted to do. We can work
>> to get one in place.
>>
>> CXF has a bunch of samples already that cover a large variety of
>> different configuations and samples. Knowing where they are deficient
>> can help us get them improved.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> On Thursday 31 January 2008, Phil Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I have to agree. The docs seem to be the last thing that a
>>> developer thinks about - because it's so obvious right? CXF, like a
>>> lot of software, badly needs some end to end examples at the very
>>> least.
>>> Currently, it's very lacking, as was XFire!
>>>
>>> Mayank Thakore-2 wrote:
>>>
>>>> well, i have spent a lot of time getting cxf to work.
>>>> but migrating from xfire, our code reduced from about 1200 lines to
>>>> 200 lines.
>>>> and i find cxf to be very extensible
>>>>
>>>> but it's not just coincidence that someone was talking about a book
>>>> on cxf just today...
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mayank
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 23, 2008 8:36 PM, jonathan doklovic <jd...@sysbliss.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The point being that since this is a users list (not a dev list) I
>>>>> thought I'd share my user experience in hopes that it could help
>>>>> the future of the project.
>>>>>
>>>>> If all anyone hears about a project is how great it is and never
>>>>> hears why people choose not to use it, then it never progresses.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was never able to get CXF working properly simply because of the
>>>>> lack of simple docs and end-to-end examples. Maybe it's just that
>>>>> I don't get it or something, but I feel there are probably a lot of
>>>>> "me's" out there that struggle with getting things up and running.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 14:47 +0000, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple
>>>>>>> service to return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro
>>>>>>> project and it's jaxws-json plugin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the point of this post ? Say to the world that you're not
>>>>>> happpy with CXF ?
>>>>>> Or tell everyone that you could've commited a patch after
>>>>>> spending 2 days on it but just didn't get enough time :-) ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers, Sergey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "jonathan doklovic" <jd...@sysbliss.com>
>>>>>> To: "cxfuser" <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple
>>>>>>> service to return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro
>>>>>>> project and it's jaxws-json plugin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I gave it a shot and after 2 hours had my service up and
>>>>>>> running. Not only that, but the plugin generates pretty api
>>>>>>> docs at the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> endpoint
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for me as well as generates a javascript client on the fly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It was just too easy to make me stick with CXF.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think CXF is probably a good framework, but the docs and
>>>>>>> examples
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in pieces and without real life end-to-end tutorials, it's
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to get things working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Jonathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>> IONA Technologies PLC (registered in Ireland)
>>>>>> Registered Number: 171387
>>>>>> Registered Address: The IONA Building, Shelbourne Road, Dublin 4,
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ireland
>>>>>
>>
>> --
>> J. Daniel Kulp
>> Principal Engineer, IONA
>> dkulp@apache.org
>> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
Posted by Phil Gibbs <ra...@bellsouth.net>.
Being a selfish soul, I'd like to see a Dynamic Client example. I saw one on
this forum and sort of used that code to create my own but it throws an
exception creating an instance of DynamicClientFactory as in,
DynamicClientFactory dcf = DynamicClientFactory.newInstance();
The exception provides zero info and there's nothing in the log (on Tomcat
6)
By the way I'm trying to invoke a service that I wrote in my XFire days.
Using Dynamic Client in XFire it works fine.
Any help greatly appreciated. Oh, I'm also trying to build with Maven as i
did when using XFire, but I cannot get it to work even when pointing to the
CXF artifacts.
dkulp wrote:
>
>
> OK. Let's flip this around a bit... Describe the type of example that
> would (or would have) helped you do what you wanted to do. We can work
> to get one in place.
>
> CXF has a bunch of samples already that cover a large variety of
> different configuations and samples. Knowing where they are deficient
> can help us get them improved.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thursday 31 January 2008, Phil Gibbs wrote:
>> Well, I have to agree. The docs seem to be the last thing that a
>> developer thinks about - because it's so obvious right? CXF, like a
>> lot of software, badly needs some end to end examples at the very
>> least.
>> Currently, it's very lacking, as was XFire!
>>
>> Mayank Thakore-2 wrote:
>> > well, i have spent a lot of time getting cxf to work.
>> > but migrating from xfire, our code reduced from about 1200 lines to
>> > 200 lines.
>> > and i find cxf to be very extensible
>> >
>> > but it's not just coincidence that someone was talking about a book
>> > on cxf just today...
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Mayank
>> >
>> > On Jan 23, 2008 8:36 PM, jonathan doklovic <jd...@sysbliss.com> wrote:
>> >> The point being that since this is a users list (not a dev list) I
>> >> thought I'd share my user experience in hopes that it could help
>> >> the future of the project.
>> >>
>> >> If all anyone hears about a project is how great it is and never
>> >> hears why people choose not to use it, then it never progresses.
>> >>
>> >> I was never able to get CXF working properly simply because of the
>> >> lack of simple docs and end-to-end examples. Maybe it's just that
>> >> I don't get it or something, but I feel there are probably a lot of
>> >> "me's" out there that struggle with getting things up and running.
>> >>
>> >> - Jonathan
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 14:47 +0000, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
>> >> > > After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple
>> >> > > service to return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro
>> >> > > project and it's jaxws-json plugin.
>> >> >
>> >> > What's the point of this post ? Say to the world that you're not
>> >> > happpy with CXF ?
>> >> > Or tell everyone that you could've commited a patch after
>> >> > spending 2 days on it but just didn't get enough time :-) ?
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers, Sergey
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "jonathan doklovic" <jd...@sysbliss.com>
>> >> > To: "cxfuser" <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:37 PM
>> >> > Subject: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
>> >> >
>> >> > > Hi,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple
>> >> > > service to return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro
>> >> > > project and it's jaxws-json plugin.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I gave it a shot and after 2 hours had my service up and
>> >> > > running. Not only that, but the plugin generates pretty api
>> >> > > docs at the
>> >> >
>> >> > endpoint
>> >> >
>> >> > > for me as well as generates a javascript client on the fly.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > It was just too easy to make me stick with CXF.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I think CXF is probably a good framework, but the docs and
>> >> > > examples
>> >> >
>> >> > are
>> >> >
>> >> > > in pieces and without real life end-to-end tutorials, it's
>> >> > > really
>> >> >
>> >> > hard
>> >> >
>> >> > > to get things working.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > - Jonathan
>> >> >
>> >> > ----------------------------
>> >> > IONA Technologies PLC (registered in Ireland)
>> >> > Registered Number: 171387
>> >> > Registered Address: The IONA Building, Shelbourne Road, Dublin 4,
>> >>
>> >> Ireland
>
>
>
> --
> J. Daniel Kulp
> Principal Engineer, IONA
> dkulp@apache.org
> http://www.dankulp.com/blog
>
>
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Re: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
Posted by Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>.
OK. Let's flip this around a bit... Describe the type of example that
would (or would have) helped you do what you wanted to do. We can work
to get one in place.
CXF has a bunch of samples already that cover a large variety of
different configuations and samples. Knowing where they are deficient
can help us get them improved.
Dan
On Thursday 31 January 2008, Phil Gibbs wrote:
> Well, I have to agree. The docs seem to be the last thing that a
> developer thinks about - because it's so obvious right? CXF, like a
> lot of software, badly needs some end to end examples at the very
> least.
> Currently, it's very lacking, as was XFire!
>
> Mayank Thakore-2 wrote:
> > well, i have spent a lot of time getting cxf to work.
> > but migrating from xfire, our code reduced from about 1200 lines to
> > 200 lines.
> > and i find cxf to be very extensible
> >
> > but it's not just coincidence that someone was talking about a book
> > on cxf just today...
> >
> > Regards
> > Mayank
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2008 8:36 PM, jonathan doklovic <jd...@sysbliss.com> wrote:
> >> The point being that since this is a users list (not a dev list) I
> >> thought I'd share my user experience in hopes that it could help
> >> the future of the project.
> >>
> >> If all anyone hears about a project is how great it is and never
> >> hears why people choose not to use it, then it never progresses.
> >>
> >> I was never able to get CXF working properly simply because of the
> >> lack of simple docs and end-to-end examples. Maybe it's just that
> >> I don't get it or something, but I feel there are probably a lot of
> >> "me's" out there that struggle with getting things up and running.
> >>
> >> - Jonathan
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 14:47 +0000, Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
> >> > > After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple
> >> > > service to return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro
> >> > > project and it's jaxws-json plugin.
> >> >
> >> > What's the point of this post ? Say to the world that you're not
> >> > happpy with CXF ?
> >> > Or tell everyone that you could've commited a patch after
> >> > spending 2 days on it but just didn't get enough time :-) ?
> >> >
> >> > Cheers, Sergey
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "jonathan doklovic" <jd...@sysbliss.com>
> >> > To: "cxfuser" <cx...@incubator.apache.org>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:37 PM
> >> > Subject: Leaving CXF for Glasshfish Metro
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > After spending about 2 weeks trying to get a very simple
> >> > > service to return JSON in CXF, I found the Glassfish Metro
> >> > > project and it's jaxws-json plugin.
> >> > >
> >> > > I gave it a shot and after 2 hours had my service up and
> >> > > running. Not only that, but the plugin generates pretty api
> >> > > docs at the
> >> >
> >> > endpoint
> >> >
> >> > > for me as well as generates a javascript client on the fly.
> >> > >
> >> > > It was just too easy to make me stick with CXF.
> >> > >
> >> > > I think CXF is probably a good framework, but the docs and
> >> > > examples
> >> >
> >> > are
> >> >
> >> > > in pieces and without real life end-to-end tutorials, it's
> >> > > really
> >> >
> >> > hard
> >> >
> >> > > to get things working.
> >> > >
> >> > > - Jonathan
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------
> >> > IONA Technologies PLC (registered in Ireland)
> >> > Registered Number: 171387
> >> > Registered Address: The IONA Building, Shelbourne Road, Dublin 4,
> >>
> >> Ireland
--
J. Daniel Kulp
Principal Engineer, IONA
dkulp@apache.org
http://www.dankulp.com/blog