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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Nael Mohammad <nm...@neomar.com> on 2001/08/15 10:17:14 UTC
sun has to release java
The only thing preventing Java from manifesting is Sun itself.
Sun get a clue, you fought MS hard and won and now you cry wolf when the
leader of the pack refuses to support Java.
What's wrong with you?
Does MS bitch to you not bundling IE for Unix with your Solaris. NO! So why
should they support you, if has no economic value to MS? What EVA is earned
if you refuse to license JAVA to MS? None! So stop the CRYing.
What you should do is let JAVA manifest itself by just donating it to the
OPEN Source community. Just let it go! And Java will be the defacto standar
and not MS.
Nael Mohammad
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Re: sun has to release java
Posted by Geoff Soutter <ge...@whitewolf.com.au>.
"Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@relativity.yi.org>
> I agree. JView was terrible.
Hey, thats a bit unfair.
>From a _technical_ perspective JView rocked. It was massively faster than
java of the time. In fact, according to
http://www.volano.com/report/index.html
it's _still_ faster (and more scalable) than Hotspot 1.3.1! Funny how the
best technology never seems to win ;-)
I hated the way it dealt with classpath stuff though. Yuck.
Geoff
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Re: sun has to release java
Posted by "Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@relativity.yi.org>.
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"Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org> writes:
> Nael Mohammad at nmohammad@neomar.com wrote:
>
> > The only thing preventing Java from manifesting is Sun itself.
> >
> > Sun get a clue, you fought MS hard and won and now you cry wolf when the
> > leader of the pack refuses to support Java.
> >
> > What's wrong with you?
> >
> > Does MS bitch to you not bundling IE for Unix with your Solaris. NO! So why
> > should they support you, if has no economic value to MS? What EVA is earned
> > if you refuse to license JAVA to MS? None! So stop the CRYing.
> >
> > What you should do is let JAVA manifest itself by just donating it to the
> > OPEN Source community. Just let it go! And Java will be the defacto standar
> > and not MS.
>
> (To defend my employer a little bit)...
Might as well... no one else is doing it ;) ;)
> I believe no Sun official ever "cried
> wolf" when Microsoft removed Java support from Windows XP.
Hm... guess a full page add in the New York Times last week doesn't count. ;)
I am on the train right now so I can't find the URL....
> Actually, (personal opinion) removing a 1.1.4 from the OS gives us the
> opportunity to push the Java 2 platform more strongly (no more people coming
> to me saying "tomcat doesn't work with Microsoft JView... THERE'S NO JVIEW
> ANYMORE!)
<snip>
I agree. JView was terrible.
Kevin
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Re: sun has to release java
Posted by "Pier P. Fumagalli" <pi...@betaversion.org>.
Nael Mohammad at nmohammad@neomar.com wrote:
> The only thing preventing Java from manifesting is Sun itself.
>
> Sun get a clue, you fought MS hard and won and now you cry wolf when the
> leader of the pack refuses to support Java.
>
> What's wrong with you?
>
> Does MS bitch to you not bundling IE for Unix with your Solaris. NO! So why
> should they support you, if has no economic value to MS? What EVA is earned
> if you refuse to license JAVA to MS? None! So stop the CRYing.
>
> What you should do is let JAVA manifest itself by just donating it to the
> OPEN Source community. Just let it go! And Java will be the defacto standar
> and not MS.
(To defend my employer a little bit)... I believe no Sun official ever
"cried wolf" when Microsoft removed Java support from Windows XP. Actually,
(personal opinion) removing a 1.1.4 from the OS gives us the opportunity to
push the Java 2 platform more strongly (no more people coming to me saying
"tomcat doesn't work with Microsoft JView... THERE'S NO JVIEW ANYMORE!)
My 2c.
Pier
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