Re: [DISCUSS] correcting abusive behavior on mailing lists was (Re: [DISCUSS] Multi-Cluster HBase Client)

[Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>]

My apologies for letting this slip. I posted a patch for our site
documentation on HBASE-14091 and it should be committed shortly.


On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

> I like your proposed text Andrew.
> St.Ack
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Andrew Purtell <ap...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > It looks like the discussion is settling down and we have a consensus on
> > the course of action of a three month temporary ban from the project
> > mailing lists. If you feel that is not correct please say so, otherwise
> on
> > Monday the PMC will begin that process.
> >
> > Going forward I think we should have a documented policy. We've never
> > needed this before but now that has changed. Below is a strawman for your
> > kind  consideration. I will file a JIRA with a site update proposal next
> > week if someone doesn't beat me to it.
> >
> > >>>
> >
> > We expect participants in discussions on the HBase project mailing lists,
> > IRC channels, and JIRA issues to abide by the Apache Software
> Foundation's
> > Code of Conduct (http://apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html).
> >
> > If you feel there had been a violation of this code, please point out
> your
> > concerns publicly in a friendly and matter of fact manner.
> > Nonverbal communication is prone to misinterpretation and
> misunderstanding.
> > Everyone has bad days and sometimes says things they regret later.
> Someone
> > else's communication style may clash with yours, but the difference can
> be
> > amicably resolved. After pointing out your concerns please be generous
> upon
> > receiving an apology.
> >
> > Should there be repeated instances of code of conduct violations, or if
> > there is an obvious and severe violation, the HBase PMC may become
> > involved. When this happens the PMC will openly discuss the matter, most
> > likely on the dev@hbase mailing list, and will consider taking the
> > following actions, in order, if there is a continuing problem with an
> > individual:
> >
> > 1. A friendly off-list warning;
> >
> > 2. A friendly public warning, if the communication at issue was on list,
> > otherwise another off-list warning;
> >
> > 3. A three month suspension from the public mailing lists and possible
> > operator action in the IRC channels.
> >
> > 4. A permanent ban from the public mailing lists, IRC channels, and
> project
> > JIRA.
> >
> > For flagrant violations requiring a firm response the PMC may opt to skip
> > early steps. No action will be taken before public discussion leading
> > to consensus or a successful majority vote.
> >
> > <<<
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, July 1, 2015, Sean Busbey <bu...@cloudera.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Due to an off list request, let me clarify my previous email. Apologies
> > if
> > > this is overly detailed, but I'm presuming folks on user@ don't often
> > deal
> > > with ASF mechanics.
> > >
> > > For those on user@hbase, Andrew asked on a sub-thread that mistakenly
> > went
> > > only to dev@hbase if those advocating for moderating Michael S's email
> > > would we would vote against a 3 month ban if Andrew called a vote. My
> > > response copied user@hbase back in and that's why you may have a gap
> in
> > > messages.
> > >
> > > In ASF terminology, votes are one of
> > >
> > > * <0 against or a veto depending on what kind of vote has been called,
> > > usually "-1"
> > > * 0 either neutral or too conflicted to state a for/against preference,
> > > usually has some concerns attached
> > > * >0 in favor, usually "+1"
> > >
> > > I precisely said "I would not vote -1" because I would not take a
> stance
> > > that might cause the vote to fail, but I would not vote in favor. I
> very
> > > likely would vote "-0 I think moderating his messages will suffice, but
> > > acknowledge the community does not want that."
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Sean Busbey <busbey@cloudera.com
> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would not vote -1 on a 3 month ban. It doesn't look like we have
> > > > consensus around moderating messages.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Andrew Purtell <apurtell@apache.org
> > > <javascript:;>>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> For those who are advocating moderation, would you be opposed if I
> > > propose
> > > >> a 3 month ban for a vote? If you are not opposed, then we should be
> > able
> > > >> to
> > > >> achieve consensus here without needing a vote to take place.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean
> > >
>