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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Ben Collins <bc...@debian.org> on 2002/06/06 01:24:29 UTC

Looking for a simple win32 GUI

I know there's a dozen or so people out there "working" on win32 GUI's.
I need one for my boss desperately. I don't need anything fancy. All it
needs to do is add/remove/modify in a very simple GUI. A visual "status"
would be nice aswell.

I don't care if it looks like crap, so long as it works. Can someone
cough up some of this vaporware for me please? :)



Thanks

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RE: Re: Looking for a simple win32 GUI

Posted by Bill Tutt <ra...@lyra.org>.
Ben has recruited our first focus group. Yay Ben! :)

Now stop it, we're not ready yet. :)

Usability tests aren't supposed to happen until at least Alpha or Beta
for crying out loud. :)

Bill


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Re: Looking for a simple win32 GUI

Posted by Ben Collins <bc...@debian.org>.
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 10:51:05PM -0500, Karl Fogel wrote:
> Ben Collins <bc...@debian.org> writes:
> > I know there's a dozen or so people out there "working" on win32 GUI's.
> > I need one for my boss desperately. I don't need anything fancy. All it
> > needs to do is add/remove/modify in a very simple GUI. A visual "status"
> > would be nice aswell.
> > 
> > I don't care if it looks like crap, so long as it works. Can someone
> > cough up some of this vaporware for me please? :)
> 
> I'm intrigued by this request (unable to satisfy it, btw, just want to
> know more about it).  Why does your boss want to see a simple svn GUI?
> Or can you not say? :-)

Because all I hear is "You know in the CVS GUI...". He and the graphics
artist I have using the system are not command line folks. I want to
alleviate the one complain I am getting :)


Ben

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Re: Looking for a simple win32 GUI

Posted by Scott Lamb <sl...@slamb.org>.
Karl Fogel wrote:
> I'm intrigued by this request (unable to satisfy it, btw, just want to
> know more about it).  Why does your boss want to see a simple svn GUI?
> Or can you not say? :-)

Let me describe my situation, which is maybe similar and probably not 
atypical. (Sorry for the longwindedness.)

I work with about a half dozen people. We do a lot of small projects. 
Most people (including myself) are students and so only a couple/few 
years. A typical project will be in maintenance for a while after its 
sole developer leaves.

Yet...we have no SCM. Until recently, there was only a directory on a 
network share that all apps supposedly go into. For a few reasons, I think:

- Unfamiliarity. The permanent employees are not primarily programmers. 
The students are, naturally, inexperienced. The concept of SCM at all is 
unfamiliar.
- CVS doesn't handle binary files well. Some problems may have been 
mentioned but not relevant to us (we don't care about merging branches) 
and some genuine (no binary deltas mean my current project will soon eat 
up 100MB for a file growing toward 500KB. ergh).
- Time to set up / learn / use the system.

I think this is exactly the sort of environment that generates a request 
like that. The larger project features (hierarchical repositories, even 
branches, even concurrency at all) just aren't at all important, so an 
interface like TortoiseCVS is ideal - only the basics, shows up in the 
Explorer window that would be open anyway. I also have ViewCVS on a 
webserver, very easy to use as well. Converting from CVS to Subversion 
would be really nice, primarily for the better handling of binary files. 
But it won't happen until both those exist for Subversion.

(Just to finish the story: our current status is that I use CVS for 
everything I do; a knowledgeable coworker does a lot of stuff in CVS as 
well. No one else does, though I'm making some progress. My boss said 
the other day "CVS would solve this problem, wouldn't it?" when he was 
wondering where a recent ex-student employee stashed a newer version of 
a project.)

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Scott Lamb


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Re: Looking for a simple win32 GUI

Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>.
Ben Collins <bc...@debian.org> writes:
> I know there's a dozen or so people out there "working" on win32 GUI's.
> I need one for my boss desperately. I don't need anything fancy. All it
> needs to do is add/remove/modify in a very simple GUI. A visual "status"
> would be nice aswell.
> 
> I don't care if it looks like crap, so long as it works. Can someone
> cough up some of this vaporware for me please? :)

I'm intrigued by this request (unable to satisfy it, btw, just want to
know more about it).  Why does your boss want to see a simple svn GUI?
Or can you not say? :-)

-K

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