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Posted to dev@mesos.apache.org by Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID> on 2016/02/03 02:23:52 UTC
are mesos package version names predictable?
I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images [2]
that the version name isn't simply:
- mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
Instead it has the form of:
- mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
- 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
- 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
- 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
- 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
- 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it hard
to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0). I
tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or for
documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
So my question is really 2-fold:
(1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent something
specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the version?
(I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
(2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
Thanks!
- Erik
References:
[1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
[2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/
Re: are mesos package version names predictable?
Posted by tommy xiao <xi...@gmail.com>.
sure.
2016-02-04 1:52 GMT+08:00 Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.invalid>:
> Ahhhh. Thanks Tommy. So I see that the Apache community doesn't release
> binary packages, just versioned source code tarballs:
>
> - https://mesos.apache.org/downloads/
>
> I'll follow up with Mesosphere directly, thanks!
>
> - Erik
>
> On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, tommy xiao <xi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > it belong to mesosphere concerns, not apache community's scope.
> >
> > 2016-02-03 9:23 GMT+08:00 Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.invalid>:
> >
> > > I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images
> [2]
> > > that the version name isn't simply:
> > >
> > > - mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
> > >
> > > Instead it has the form of:
> > >
> > > - mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
> > >
> > > Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
> > >
> > > - 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
> > > - 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
> > > - 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
> > > - 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
> > > - 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
> > >
> > > It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it
> hard
> > > to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
> > > particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0).
> I
> > > tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or
> for
> > > documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
> > >
> > > So my question is really 2-fold:
> > > (1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent
> something
> > > specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the
> > version?
> > > (I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
> > > (2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > - Erik
> > >
> > > References:
> > > [1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
> > > [2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Deshi Xiao
> > Twitter: xds2000
> > E-mail: xiaods(AT)gmail.com
> >
>
--
Deshi Xiao
Twitter: xds2000
E-mail: xiaods(AT)gmail.com
Re: are mesos package version names predictable?
Posted by Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID>.
Ahhhh. Thanks Tommy. So I see that the Apache community doesn't release
binary packages, just versioned source code tarballs:
- https://mesos.apache.org/downloads/
I'll follow up with Mesosphere directly, thanks!
- Erik
On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, tommy xiao <xi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> it belong to mesosphere concerns, not apache community's scope.
>
> 2016-02-03 9:23 GMT+08:00 Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.invalid>:
>
> > I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images [2]
> > that the version name isn't simply:
> >
> > - mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
> >
> > Instead it has the form of:
> >
> > - mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
> >
> > Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
> >
> > - 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
> > - 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
> > - 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
> > - 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
> > - 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
> >
> > It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it hard
> > to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
> > particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0). I
> > tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or for
> > documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
> >
> > So my question is really 2-fold:
> > (1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent something
> > specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the
> version?
> > (I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
> > (2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - Erik
> >
> > References:
> > [1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
> > [2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Deshi Xiao
> Twitter: xds2000
> E-mail: xiaods(AT)gmail.com
>
Re: are mesos package version names predictable?
Posted by tommy xiao <xi...@gmail.com>.
it belong to mesosphere concerns, not apache community's scope.
2016-02-03 9:23 GMT+08:00 Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.invalid>:
> I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images [2]
> that the version name isn't simply:
>
> - mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
>
> Instead it has the form of:
>
> - mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
>
> Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
>
> - 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
> - 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
> - 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
> - 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
> - 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
>
> It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it hard
> to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
> particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0). I
> tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or for
> documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
>
> So my question is really 2-fold:
> (1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent something
> specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the version?
> (I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
> (2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Erik
>
> References:
> [1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
> [2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/
>
--
Deshi Xiao
Twitter: xds2000
E-mail: xiaods(AT)gmail.com
Re: are mesos package version names predictable?
Posted by Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID>.
Thanks Till, that is what I expected, and I appreciate the extra historical
insight. Fingers crossed for future releases! ;-)
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com> wrote:
> Given that the final number (build number) is constantly being raised, I
> fear there is really not much you can do. The “0.2” and “1.0” were
> originally planned for snapshots (0.2) vs. releases (1.0) but as you can
> see, we changed that over time.
>
> The only robust option I see right now is a mapping table as you drafted
> in your initial mail already. You would have to touch that mapping with
> each new release :(
>
> … but hope is in sight, for future releases at least… will keep you
> updated.
>
> > On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:07 PM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >
> > hey Till, thanks for the response! Would be great to have those
> > CI-build-numbers squelched in the future if possible. Or some sort of
> > alias set up to allow redirecting to the fully expanded build.
> >
> > Any suggestions for the short term of how to perform this redirection?
> For
> > reference, the purpose of this is to allow the storm-on-mesos project's
> > Dockerfile to have a configurable mesos version.
> >
> > - https://github.com/mesos/storm/pull/91
> >
> > - Erik
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Erik,
> >>
> >> those added values (e.g. “-0.2.190") come from Mesosphere's CI system
> >> which adds build-numbers (the last digit) and some more “noise" for
> those
> >> distribution packages.
> >>
> >> I will raise this issue internally and get back to you - hoping that we
> >> can get rid of these not so useful extensions in a not too distant
> future.
> >>
> >> hth,
> >> Till
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:23 AM, Erik Weathers
> <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images
> [2]
> >>> that the version name isn't simply:
> >>>
> >>> - mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
> >>>
> >>> Instead it has the form of:
> >>>
> >>> - mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
> >>>
> >>> Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
> >>>
> >>> - 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
> >>> - 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
> >>> - 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
> >>> - 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
> >>> - 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
> >>>
> >>> It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it
> hard
> >>> to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
> >>> particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0).
> I
> >>> tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or
> for
> >>> documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
> >>>
> >>> So my question is really 2-fold:
> >>> (1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent
> something
> >>> specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the
> >> version?
> >>> (I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
> >>> (2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> - Erik
> >>>
> >>> References:
> >>> [1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
> >>> [2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: are mesos package version names predictable?
Posted by Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com>.
Given that the final number (build number) is constantly being raised, I fear there is really not much you can do. The “0.2” and “1.0” were originally planned for snapshots (0.2) vs. releases (1.0) but as you can see, we changed that over time.
The only robust option I see right now is a mapping table as you drafted in your initial mail already. You would have to touch that mapping with each new release :(
… but hope is in sight, for future releases at least… will keep you updated.
> On Feb 4, 2016, at 11:07 PM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> hey Till, thanks for the response! Would be great to have those
> CI-build-numbers squelched in the future if possible. Or some sort of
> alias set up to allow redirecting to the fully expanded build.
>
> Any suggestions for the short term of how to perform this redirection? For
> reference, the purpose of this is to allow the storm-on-mesos project's
> Dockerfile to have a configurable mesos version.
>
> - https://github.com/mesos/storm/pull/91
>
> - Erik
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Erik,
>>
>> those added values (e.g. “-0.2.190") come from Mesosphere's CI system
>> which adds build-numbers (the last digit) and some more “noise" for those
>> distribution packages.
>>
>> I will raise this issue internally and get back to you - hoping that we
>> can get rid of these not so useful extensions in a not too distant future.
>>
>> hth,
>> Till
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:23 AM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images [2]
>>> that the version name isn't simply:
>>>
>>> - mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
>>>
>>> Instead it has the form of:
>>>
>>> - mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
>>>
>>> Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
>>>
>>> - 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
>>> - 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
>>> - 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
>>> - 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
>>> - 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
>>>
>>> It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it hard
>>> to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
>>> particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0). I
>>> tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or for
>>> documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
>>>
>>> So my question is really 2-fold:
>>> (1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent something
>>> specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the
>> version?
>>> (I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
>>> (2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> - Erik
>>>
>>> References:
>>> [1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
>>> [2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/
>>
>>
Re: are mesos package version names predictable?
Posted by Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID>.
hey Till, thanks for the response! Would be great to have those
CI-build-numbers squelched in the future if possible. Or some sort of
alias set up to allow redirecting to the fully expanded build.
Any suggestions for the short term of how to perform this redirection? For
reference, the purpose of this is to allow the storm-on-mesos project's
Dockerfile to have a configurable mesos version.
- https://github.com/mesos/storm/pull/91
- Erik
On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com> wrote:
> Hey Erik,
>
> those added values (e.g. “-0.2.190") come from Mesosphere's CI system
> which adds build-numbers (the last digit) and some more “noise" for those
> distribution packages.
>
> I will raise this issue internally and get back to you - hoping that we
> can get rid of these not so useful extensions in a not too distant future.
>
> hth,
> Till
>
>
> > On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:23 AM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images [2]
> > that the version name isn't simply:
> >
> > - mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
> >
> > Instead it has the form of:
> >
> > - mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
> >
> > Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
> >
> > - 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
> > - 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
> > - 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
> > - 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
> > - 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
> >
> > It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it hard
> > to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
> > particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0). I
> > tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or for
> > documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
> >
> > So my question is really 2-fold:
> > (1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent something
> > specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the
> version?
> > (I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
> > (2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - Erik
> >
> > References:
> > [1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
> > [2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/
>
>
Re: are mesos package version names predictable?
Posted by Shuai Lin <li...@gmail.com>.
+1 for removing the build number from the version number of
mesosphere-released deb/rpm pkgs.
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 5:51 AM, Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com> wrote:
> Hey Erik,
>
> those added values (e.g. “-0.2.190") come from Mesosphere's CI system
> which adds build-numbers (the last digit) and some more “noise" for those
> distribution packages.
>
> I will raise this issue internally and get back to you - hoping that we
> can get rid of these not so useful extensions in a not too distant future.
>
> hth,
> Till
>
>
> > On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:23 AM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >
> > I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images [2]
> > that the version name isn't simply:
> >
> > - mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
> >
> > Instead it has the form of:
> >
> > - mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
> >
> > Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
> >
> > - 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
> > - 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
> > - 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
> > - 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
> > - 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
> >
> > It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it hard
> > to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
> > particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0). I
> > tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or for
> > documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
> >
> > So my question is really 2-fold:
> > (1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent something
> > specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the
> version?
> > (I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
> > (2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - Erik
> >
> > References:
> > [1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
> > [2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/
>
>
Re: are mesos package version names predictable?
Posted by Till Toenshoff <to...@me.com>.
Hey Erik,
those added values (e.g. “-0.2.190") come from Mesosphere's CI system which adds build-numbers (the last digit) and some more “noise" for those distribution packages.
I will raise this issue internally and get back to you - hoping that we can get rid of these not so useful extensions in a not too distant future.
hth,
Till
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 2:23 AM, Erik Weathers <ew...@groupon.com.INVALID> wrote:
>
> I've noticed that in the published mesos packages [1] & docker images [2]
> that the version name isn't simply:
>
> - mesos_0.27.0.ubuntu1404_amd64
>
> Instead it has the form of:
>
> - mesos_0.27.0*-0.2.190*.ubuntu1404_amd64
>
> Here are a few more examples of this numeric suffix:
>
> - 0.27.0 -> 0.27.0-0.2.190
> - 0.26.0 -> 0.26.0-0.2.145
> - 0.25.0 -> 0.25.0-0.2.70
> - 0.24.1 -> 0.24.1-0.2.35
> - 0.24.0 -> 0.24.0-1.0.27
>
> It is not clear to me what these suffixes represent, and it makes it hard
> to write code that can download or install the mesos package for a
> particular version given just the simple version name (e.g., 0.27.0). I
> tried searching for what might be generating this version suffix, or for
> documentation of the release process for mesos, but I have failed.
>
> So my question is really 2-fold:
> (1) Where does this extra suffix come from? Does it represent something
> specific? What is its purpose? Why isn't the version simply the version?
> (I'm sure there *is* a reason, but I haven't found it on my own.)
> (2) What is the "right" way to handle this seeming unpredictability?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Erik
>
> References:
> [1] http://open.mesosphere.com/downloads/mesos/
> [2] https://hub.docker.com/r/mesosphere/mesos/tags/