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Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on KVM
in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they are both
paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to Cloudstack mention
that it is only for testing the API's functionality. Can I consider dummy
backup as a "native" backup solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings,
'Gold' and 'Silver,' but there is no information on how many backups it
makes or for how long...
Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer documentation
about the dummy backup?
Thank you very much.
Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Wei ZHOU <us...@gmail.com>.
thanks Jayanth.
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 11:50 AM Jayanth Babu A
<ja...@nxtgen.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> Hello Wei,
> ACS v4.16; IIRC Veeam should be either v11 or v12.
>
> Thanks,
> Jayanth
>
> Sent on the move
>
> ________________________________
> From: Wei ZHOU <us...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 3:16:36 pm
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
>
> great to know it.
> Can you share the acs/vmware/veeam version?
> Thanks
>
> On Monday, May 27, 2024, Jayanth Babu A <ja...@nxtgen.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Veeam agent-based backups have worked for us so far.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jayanth Reddy
> >
> > From: Khang Nguyen Phuc <ph...@gmail.com>
> > Date: Friday, 24 May 2024 at 1:03 PM
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Subject: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on KVM
> > in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they are both
> > paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to Cloudstack mention
> > that it is only for testing the API's functionality. Can I consider dummy
> > backup as a "native" backup solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings,
> > 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but there is no information on how many backups it
> > makes or for how long...
> >
> > Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer documentation
> > about the dummy backup?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
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Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Jayanth Babu A <ja...@nxtgen.com.INVALID>.
Hello Wei,
ACS v4.16; IIRC Veeam should be either v11 or v12.
Thanks,
Jayanth
Sent on the move
________________________________
From: Wei ZHOU <us...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2024 3:16:36 pm
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
great to know it.
Can you share the acs/vmware/veeam version?
Thanks
On Monday, May 27, 2024, Jayanth Babu A <ja...@nxtgen.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Hello,
> Veeam agent-based backups have worked for us so far.
>
> Regards,
> Jayanth Reddy
>
> From: Khang Nguyen Phuc <ph...@gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, 24 May 2024 at 1:03 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on KVM
> in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they are both
> paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to Cloudstack mention
> that it is only for testing the API's functionality. Can I consider dummy
> backup as a "native" backup solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings,
> 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but there is no information on how many backups it
> makes or for how long...
>
> Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer documentation
> about the dummy backup?
>
> Thank you very much.
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Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Wei ZHOU <us...@gmail.com>.
great to know it.
Can you share the acs/vmware/veeam version?
Thanks
On Monday, May 27, 2024, Jayanth Babu A <ja...@nxtgen.com.invalid>
wrote:
> Hello,
> Veeam agent-based backups have worked for us so far.
>
> Regards,
> Jayanth Reddy
>
> From: Khang Nguyen Phuc <ph...@gmail.com>
> Date: Friday, 24 May 2024 at 1:03 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on KVM
> in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they are both
> paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to Cloudstack mention
> that it is only for testing the API's functionality. Can I consider dummy
> backup as a "native" backup solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings,
> 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but there is no information on how many backups it
> makes or for how long...
>
> Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer documentation
> about the dummy backup?
>
> Thank you very much.
> Disclaimer *** This e-mail contains PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL
> INFORMATION intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If you are not
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Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Jayanth Babu A <ja...@nxtgen.com.INVALID>.
Hello,
Veeam agent-based backups have worked for us so far.
Regards,
Jayanth Reddy
From: Khang Nguyen Phuc <ph...@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, 24 May 2024 at 1:03 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on KVM
in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they are both
paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to Cloudstack mention
that it is only for testing the API's functionality. Can I consider dummy
backup as a "native" backup solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings,
'Gold' and 'Silver,' but there is no information on how many backups it
makes or for how long...
Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer documentation
about the dummy backup?
Thank you very much.
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Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by benoit lair <ku...@gmail.com>.
Hi Giles,
Is there something similar as Backroll https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL for
Xenserver/Xcp-NG ?
Regards, Benoit Lair
Le mer. 12 juin 2024 à 17:45, Joffrey LUANGSAYSANA <j....@dimsi.fr>
a écrit :
> Hi Jimmy,
>
> I am Joffrey from the Backroll team.
> That is correct, Backroll needs to have access to the storage, if for any
> reasons you do not want to have the local storage exposed to backroll then
> yes it will not be able to perform backups.
>
> Regards,
>
> *Joffrey LUANGSAYSANA* Ingénieur Cloud
> *@ : j.luangsaysana@dimsi.fr <j....@dimsi.fr>*
> *Paris* • Lorient • Lyon
> [image: DIMSI_Logo_Color_Business_Solutions_x3.png]
> Microsoft Power Platform | Agilité | Cloud | Modern Apps | Code
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *De :* Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>
> *Envoyé :* mardi 11 juin 2024 11:20
> *À :* users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> *Objet :* Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
>
> Hi Khang,
>
> Once tested let us know how it went, I was looking at this too but got
> misguided I think by the:
>
> To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
> the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
>
> I only use local storage so that is not an option.
>
> --
> Jimmy
>
> From: Khang Nguyen Phuc <ph...@gmail.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 11 June 2024 at 04:18
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> Hello everyone,
> Thank you for all your answers. I missed a few messages, so I couldn't
> reply in time. Thank you, Giles Sirett. I am experimenting with BackROLL
> and will review it as soon as possible.
> Best Regards,
>
> On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:04 PM Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It says:
> > To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
> > the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
> >
> > In case you use local storage for your vm’s it’s pretty useless then?
> >
> > --
> > Jimmy
> >
> > From: Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, 29 May 2024 at 17:40
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> > Subject: RE: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> > Hi Khang
> > The dummy provider is just that - it is a dummy provider for testing the
> > Backup and Recovery Framework - it doesn’t actually do any backups
> >
> > As Joao says - you can use Snaphots
> >
> > In terms of non commercial providers for the Backup & Recovery Framework,
> > have a look at Backroll
> https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FDIMSI-IS%2FBackROLL&data=05%7C02%7Cj.luangsaysana%40dimsi.fr%7C872fc7459c9a4b3221e308dc89f7c45b%7Cbab0ba86ddf44ac4b09fd48f7eb9d905%7C0%7C0%7C638536944412484235%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=k%2BSDIYDMNNlxuu%2BUEillMvWpnYzVYI7pSY3jzygRN0U%3D&reserved=0
> <https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL>
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > Giles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: João Jandre Paraquetti <jo...@scclouds.com.br>
> > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 7:53 PM
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> >
> > Hello, Khang
> >
> > If your intention is to backup the VM's volumes, you can use the
> > 'Snapshot' feature on KVM, which will create a copy of the volume, this
> can
> > be done while the VM is stopped or running. With the
> > `snapshot.backup.to.secondary` configuration, the Snapshot will be backed
> > up to your secondary storage during the Snapshot process. Thus, if you
> lose
> > your primary storage, your secondary storage will still have backups of
> > your VM's volumes.
> >
> > Furthermore, version 4.20.0.0 will come with some optimizations of the
> > snapshot process, as well as introduce the concept of incremental
> snapshots
> > when using KVM as the hypervisor; which tends to be a lot faster and save
> > storage space.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > João Jandre.
> >
> > On 5/24/24 04:32, Khang Nguyen Phuc wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on
> > > KVM in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they
> > > are both paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to
> > > Cloudstack mention that it is only for testing the API's
> > > functionality. Can I consider dummy backup as a "native" backup
> > > solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings, 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but
> > > there is no information on how many backups it makes or for how long...
> > >
> > > Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer
> > > documentation about the dummy backup?
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > >
> >
>
RE: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Joffrey LUANGSAYSANA <j....@dimsi.fr>.
Hi Jimmy,
I am Joffrey from the Backroll team.
That is correct, Backroll needs to have access to the storage, if for any reasons you do not want to have the local storage exposed to backroll then yes it will not be able to perform backups.
Regards,
Joffrey LUANGSAYSANA Ingénieur Cloud
@ : j.luangsaysana@dimsi.fr
Paris • Lorient • Lyon
[DIMSI_Logo_Color_Business_Solutions_x3.png]
Microsoft Power Platform | Agilité | Cloud | Modern Apps | Code
________________________________
De : Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>
Envoyé : mardi 11 juin 2024 11:20
À : users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hi Khang,
Once tested let us know how it went, I was looking at this too but got misguided I think by the:
To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
I only use local storage so that is not an option.
--
Jimmy
From: Khang Nguyen Phuc <ph...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 11 June 2024 at 04:18
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hello everyone,
Thank you for all your answers. I missed a few messages, so I couldn't
reply in time. Thank you, Giles Sirett. I am experimenting with BackROLL
and will review it as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:04 PM Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>
wrote:
> It says:
> To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
> the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
>
> In case you use local storage for your vm’s it’s pretty useless then?
>
> --
> Jimmy
>
> From: Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 29 May 2024 at 17:40
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> Hi Khang
> The dummy provider is just that - it is a dummy provider for testing the
> Backup and Recovery Framework - it doesn’t actually do any backups
>
> As Joao says - you can use Snaphots
>
> In terms of non commercial providers for the Backup & Recovery Framework,
> have a look at Backroll https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FDIMSI-IS%2FBackROLL&data=05%7C02%7Cj.luangsaysana%40dimsi.fr%7C872fc7459c9a4b3221e308dc89f7c45b%7Cbab0ba86ddf44ac4b09fd48f7eb9d905%7C0%7C0%7C638536944412484235%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=k%2BSDIYDMNNlxuu%2BUEillMvWpnYzVYI7pSY3jzygRN0U%3D&reserved=0<https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL>
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: João Jandre Paraquetti <jo...@scclouds.com.br>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 7:53 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
>
> Hello, Khang
>
> If your intention is to backup the VM's volumes, you can use the
> 'Snapshot' feature on KVM, which will create a copy of the volume, this can
> be done while the VM is stopped or running. With the
> `snapshot.backup.to.secondary` configuration, the Snapshot will be backed
> up to your secondary storage during the Snapshot process. Thus, if you lose
> your primary storage, your secondary storage will still have backups of
> your VM's volumes.
>
> Furthermore, version 4.20.0.0 will come with some optimizations of the
> snapshot process, as well as introduce the concept of incremental snapshots
> when using KVM as the hypervisor; which tends to be a lot faster and save
> storage space.
>
> Best Regards,
> João Jandre.
>
> On 5/24/24 04:32, Khang Nguyen Phuc wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on
> > KVM in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they
> > are both paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to
> > Cloudstack mention that it is only for testing the API's
> > functionality. Can I consider dummy backup as a "native" backup
> > solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings, 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but
> > there is no information on how many backups it makes or for how long...
> >
> > Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer
> > documentation about the dummy backup?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
>
Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>.
Hi Khang,
Once tested let us know how it went, I was looking at this too but got misguided I think by the:
To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
I only use local storage so that is not an option.
--
Jimmy
From: Khang Nguyen Phuc <ph...@gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 11 June 2024 at 04:18
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hello everyone,
Thank you for all your answers. I missed a few messages, so I couldn't
reply in time. Thank you, Giles Sirett. I am experimenting with BackROLL
and will review it as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:04 PM Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>
wrote:
> It says:
> To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
> the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
>
> In case you use local storage for your vm’s it’s pretty useless then?
>
> --
> Jimmy
>
> From: Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 29 May 2024 at 17:40
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> Hi Khang
> The dummy provider is just that - it is a dummy provider for testing the
> Backup and Recovery Framework - it doesn’t actually do any backups
>
> As Joao says - you can use Snaphots
>
> In terms of non commercial providers for the Backup & Recovery Framework,
> have a look at Backroll https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: João Jandre Paraquetti <jo...@scclouds.com.br>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 7:53 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
>
> Hello, Khang
>
> If your intention is to backup the VM's volumes, you can use the
> 'Snapshot' feature on KVM, which will create a copy of the volume, this can
> be done while the VM is stopped or running. With the
> `snapshot.backup.to.secondary` configuration, the Snapshot will be backed
> up to your secondary storage during the Snapshot process. Thus, if you lose
> your primary storage, your secondary storage will still have backups of
> your VM's volumes.
>
> Furthermore, version 4.20.0.0 will come with some optimizations of the
> snapshot process, as well as introduce the concept of incremental snapshots
> when using KVM as the hypervisor; which tends to be a lot faster and save
> storage space.
>
> Best Regards,
> João Jandre.
>
> On 5/24/24 04:32, Khang Nguyen Phuc wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on
> > KVM in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they
> > are both paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to
> > Cloudstack mention that it is only for testing the API's
> > functionality. Can I consider dummy backup as a "native" backup
> > solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings, 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but
> > there is no information on how many backups it makes or for how long...
> >
> > Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer
> > documentation about the dummy backup?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
>
Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Khang Nguyen Phuc <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hello everyone,
Thank you for all your answers. I missed a few messages, so I couldn't
reply in time. Thank you, Giles Sirett. I am experimenting with BackROLL
and will review it as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 11:04 PM Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>
wrote:
> It says:
> To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to
> the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
>
> In case you use local storage for your vm’s it’s pretty useless then?
>
> --
> Jimmy
>
> From: Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 29 May 2024 at 17:40
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: Backup VM on Cloudstack
> Hi Khang
> The dummy provider is just that - it is a dummy provider for testing the
> Backup and Recovery Framework - it doesn’t actually do any backups
>
> As Joao says - you can use Snaphots
>
> In terms of non commercial providers for the Backup & Recovery Framework,
> have a look at Backroll https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: João Jandre Paraquetti <jo...@scclouds.com.br>
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 7:53 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
>
> Hello, Khang
>
> If your intention is to backup the VM's volumes, you can use the
> 'Snapshot' feature on KVM, which will create a copy of the volume, this can
> be done while the VM is stopped or running. With the
> `snapshot.backup.to.secondary` configuration, the Snapshot will be backed
> up to your secondary storage during the Snapshot process. Thus, if you lose
> your primary storage, your secondary storage will still have backups of
> your VM's volumes.
>
> Furthermore, version 4.20.0.0 will come with some optimizations of the
> snapshot process, as well as introduce the concept of incremental snapshots
> when using KVM as the hypervisor; which tends to be a lot faster and save
> storage space.
>
> Best Regards,
> João Jandre.
>
> On 5/24/24 04:32, Khang Nguyen Phuc wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on
> > KVM in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they
> > are both paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to
> > Cloudstack mention that it is only for testing the API's
> > functionality. Can I consider dummy backup as a "native" backup
> > solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings, 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but
> > there is no information on how many backups it makes or for how long...
> >
> > Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer
> > documentation about the dummy backup?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
>
Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Jimmy Huybrechts <ji...@linservers.com>.
It says:
To perform backup and restore tasks, Backroll's workers need an access to the VMs storage and to a backup storage.
In case you use local storage for your vm’s it’s pretty useless then?
--
Jimmy
From: Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>
Date: Wednesday, 29 May 2024 at 17:40
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hi Khang
The dummy provider is just that - it is a dummy provider for testing the Backup and Recovery Framework - it doesn’t actually do any backups
As Joao says - you can use Snaphots
In terms of non commercial providers for the Backup & Recovery Framework, have a look at Backroll https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL
Kind Regards
Giles
-----Original Message-----
From: João Jandre Paraquetti <jo...@scclouds.com.br>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 7:53 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hello, Khang
If your intention is to backup the VM's volumes, you can use the 'Snapshot' feature on KVM, which will create a copy of the volume, this can be done while the VM is stopped or running. With the `snapshot.backup.to.secondary` configuration, the Snapshot will be backed up to your secondary storage during the Snapshot process. Thus, if you lose your primary storage, your secondary storage will still have backups of your VM's volumes.
Furthermore, version 4.20.0.0 will come with some optimizations of the snapshot process, as well as introduce the concept of incremental snapshots when using KVM as the hypervisor; which tends to be a lot faster and save storage space.
Best Regards,
João Jandre.
On 5/24/24 04:32, Khang Nguyen Phuc wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on
> KVM in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they
> are both paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to
> Cloudstack mention that it is only for testing the API's
> functionality. Can I consider dummy backup as a "native" backup
> solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings, 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but
> there is no information on how many backups it makes or for how long...
>
> Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer
> documentation about the dummy backup?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
RE: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
Hi Khang
The dummy provider is just that - it is a dummy provider for testing the Backup and Recovery Framework - it doesn’t actually do any backups
As Joao says - you can use Snaphots
In terms of non commercial providers for the Backup & Recovery Framework, have a look at Backroll https://github.com/DIMSI-IS/BackROLL
Kind Regards
Giles
-----Original Message-----
From: João Jandre Paraquetti <jo...@scclouds.com.br>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 7:53 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Hello, Khang
If your intention is to backup the VM's volumes, you can use the 'Snapshot' feature on KVM, which will create a copy of the volume, this can be done while the VM is stopped or running. With the `snapshot.backup.to.secondary` configuration, the Snapshot will be backed up to your secondary storage during the Snapshot process. Thus, if you lose your primary storage, your secondary storage will still have backups of your VM's volumes.
Furthermore, version 4.20.0.0 will come with some optimizations of the snapshot process, as well as introduce the concept of incremental snapshots when using KVM as the hypervisor; which tends to be a lot faster and save storage space.
Best Regards,
João Jandre.
On 5/24/24 04:32, Khang Nguyen Phuc wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on
> KVM in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they
> are both paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to
> Cloudstack mention that it is only for testing the API's
> functionality. Can I consider dummy backup as a "native" backup
> solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings, 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but
> there is no information on how many backups it makes or for how long...
>
> Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer
> documentation about the dummy backup?
>
> Thank you very much.
>
Re: Backup VM on Cloudstack
Posted by João Jandre Paraquetti <jo...@scclouds.com.br>.
Hello, Khang
If your intention is to backup the VM's volumes, you can use the
'Snapshot' feature on KVM, which will create a copy of the volume, this
can be done while the VM is stopped or running. With the
`snapshot.backup.to.secondary` configuration, the Snapshot will be
backed up to your secondary storage during the Snapshot process. Thus,
if you lose your primary storage, your secondary storage will still have
backups of your VM's volumes.
Furthermore, version 4.20.0.0 will come with some optimizations of the
snapshot process, as well as introduce the concept of incremental
snapshots when using KVM as the hypervisor; which tends to be a lot
faster and save storage space.
Best Regards,
João Jandre.
On 5/24/24 04:32, Khang Nguyen Phuc wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm looking for some advice on solutions for backing up VMs running on KVM
> in Cloudstack. I found two plugins in the documentation, but they are both
> paid. I also saw the dummy backup, but introductions to Cloudstack mention
> that it is only for testing the API's functionality. Can I consider dummy
> backup as a "native" backup solution for Cloudstack? I see two offerings,
> 'Gold' and 'Silver,' but there is no information on how many backups it
> makes or for how long...
>
> Can you suggest a backup solution for me or provide clearer documentation
> about the dummy backup?
>
> Thank you very much.
>