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Posted to derby-user@db.apache.org by Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com> on 2019/06/01 02:02:56 UTC
Re: AccessControlException with no security manager
I feel like you're probably hitting DERBY-6648:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-6648
Even if you don't install a Java security manager (perhaps especially
if that is so), you get a security manager anyway.
If you really, really don't want a security manager, you can say so.
Or, bite the bullet and define a security manager, and start
assembling the precise security policy that is right for your
particular situation, as in:
https://stackoverflow.com/a/52392015/193453 ,
https://db.apache.org/derby/docs/10.13/security/csecembeddedperms.html
, etc.
bryan
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Besosa, Michael
<mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>
> We have an application that is using the Derby 10.12.1.1 embedded engine and Java 8. When the app executes the SELECT shown below, we see an exception with the message 'access denied org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission( "engine", "usederbyinternals" ): java.security.AccessControlException'.
>
> This application does not install a SecurityManager. I'm at a bit of a loss about how to fix this.
>
> The query:
>
> SELECT
> DeliveryEvent.AppointmentStart,
> DeliveryEvent.Attempt,
> DeliveryEvent.BiometricCheckTypeCode,
> DeliveryEvent.CandidateID,
> DeliveryEvent.DeliveryStatus,
> DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID,
> DeliveryEvent.HasNoTestListBlock,
> DeliveryEvent.IsDisconnectedIBTDelivery,
> DeliveryEvent.NextAppointmentID,
> DeliveryEvent.ProcessStateCode,
> DeliveryEvent.ProctorID,
> DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID,
> DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID,
> DeliveryEvent.SelectedFormID,
> DeliveryEvent.SelectedExamVersionID,
> DeliveryEvent.TerminationDate,
> DeliveryEvent.TimeLimit,
> DeliveryEvent.TimeLimitAdjust,
> Clients.Client_ID AS ClientID,
> Clients.ClientName AS ClientName,
> ExamSeries.Code AS ExamSeriesCode,
> ExamVersion.DriverID AS DriverID,
> ExamLanguage.Title AS TranslatedTitle,
> (SELECT AppUser.FirstName || ' ' || AppUser.LastName FROM ((((((AssetAppUser INNER JOIN AppUser ON AssetAppUser.AppUserID = AppUser.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON AssetAppUser.AssetID = AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN Asset ON AssetUsage.AssetID = Asset.ID) INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Examiner') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID = AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS ONLY) AS ExaminerName,
> (SELECT Asset.Name FROM ((((Asset INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON Asset.ID = AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Vehicle') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID = AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) AND (AssetType.AssetClassCode IN ('Facility','Workstation','CiscoRack','TaskSchedule')) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS ONLY) AS VehicleName,
> (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (Accommodation INNER JOIN AccommodationStatus ON Accommodation.AccommodationStatusID = AccommodationStatus.AccommodationStatusID AND AccommodationStatus.StatusCode = 'Granted') WHERE (Accommodation.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS AccommodationCount,
> (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM DeliveryBlockedReason WHERE (DeliveryBlockedReason.DeliveryEventID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS ReasonsBlockedCount,
> (SELECT DeliveryEventNext.RegistrationID FROM DeliveryEvent AS DeliveryEventNext WHERE (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = DeliveryEventNext.NextAppointmentID)) AS FirstDayRegistrationID
> FROM ((((
> DeliveryEvent
> INNER JOIN ExamLanguage
> ON DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID = ExamLanguage.ID)
> INNER JOIN ExamSeriesON ExamLanguage.ExamSeriesID = ExamSeries.ID)
> INNER JOIN Clients
> ON ExamSeries.Client_ID = Clients.Client_ID)
> LEFT JOIN ExamVersion
> ON DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID = ExamVersion.ID)
> WHERE
> (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = 5)
Re: AccessControlException with no security manager
Posted by Rick Hillegas <ri...@gmail.com>.
The check for the usederbyinternals permission is done by
SecurityUtil.checkDerbyInternalsPrivilege(). That is the only place we
check for that permission. The code itself is guarded by a check for
whether a SecurityManager has been installed. That is, the check is ONLY
performed when a SecurityManager is installed.
I don't know what to make of the observation that this problem started
after upgrading to Java 8. But that might be a useful clue.
On 6/7/19 5:42 AM, Besosa, Michael wrote:
> I'll open an issue, as you suggest, with the information you
> requested. And no, I can't provide a minimum reproducible case yet. A
> problem with doing so is that the behavior appears to be sporadic. I
> haven't found a way to reproduce it reliably yet.
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 8:15 PM Bryan Pendleton
> <bpendleton.derby@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Probably best to open an issue in the Derby JIRA, to help keep the
> conversation easy to find and track.
>
> Can you share the complete stack trace of the AccessControlException?
>
> Can you share a run of 'sysinfo' in a configuration where this occurs?
>
> I don't suppose you've been able to whittle this down to a Minimum
> Reproducible Case yet, have you?
>
> thanks,
>
> bryan
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:22 AM Besosa, Michael
> <michael.besosa@pearson.com <ma...@pearson.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > We're still interested in ideas about this problem. We are
> getting occasional AccessControlExceptions in an environment with
> no SecurityManager installed. This behavior appears to have
> started when we migrated our application to Java 8. It was never
> seen prior to that. If there is additional information that would
> be useful, please let me know.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:17 PM Bryan Pendleton
> <bpendleton.derby@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ah, good point.
> >>
> >> Yes, I missed that, and yes I was thinking about the network
> server.
> >>
> >> Sorry about that.
> >>
> >> bryan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:37 AM Besosa, Michael
> >> <michael.besosa@pearson.com
> <ma...@pearson.com>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if you missed that
> this is using the embedded engine, not the network server. I know
> that the network server installs a security manager by default,
> and that there is a system property that can be set to disable
> that behavior. But that's not applicable in our situation.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:52 AM Besosa, Michael
> <michael.besosa@pearson.com <ma...@pearson.com>>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't understand what you mean when you say, "Even if you
> don't install a Java security manager...you get a security manager
> anyway." I don't have (haven't installed) a security manager and
> System.getSecurityManager() returns null. And if I "really,
> really" don't want a security manager, how can I say so, other
> than executing System.setSecurityManager(null)?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:03 PM Bryan Pendleton
> <bpendleton.derby@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I feel like you're probably hitting DERBY-6648:
> >> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_DERBY-2D6648&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=Hutrm_MTSwNDtab2E2bMNCxLo0eDRIZrB1B5x2AL-1k&e=
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Even if you don't install a Java security manager (perhaps
> especially
> >> >>> if that is so), you get a security manager anyway.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you really, really don't want a security manager, you
> can say so.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Or, bite the bullet and define a security manager, and start
> >> >>> assembling the precise security policy that is right for your
> >> >>> particular situation, as in:
> >> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_a_52392015_193453&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=uackNzNN36boV8-m6DGN7VJOPwN4tnfuUwgQBgOmv0I&e=
> ,
> >> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__db.apache.org_derby_docs_10.13_security_csecembeddedperms.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=53JhmaGEsK92jA_W0ofwQrvGLuaZ-TLXOiDawh9P3rQ&e=
> >> >>> , etc.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> bryan
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Besosa, Michael
> >> >>> <michael.besosa@pearson.com
> <ma...@pearson.com>> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > We have an application that is using the Derby 10.12.1.1
> embedded engine and Java 8. When the app executes the SELECT shown
> below, we see an exception with the message 'access denied
> org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission( "engine",
> "usederbyinternals" ): java.security.AccessControlException'.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > This application does not install a SecurityManager. I'm
> at a bit of a loss about how to fix this.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > The query:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > SELECT
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.AppointmentStart,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.Attempt,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.BiometricCheckTypeCode,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.CandidateID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.DeliveryStatus,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.HasNoTestListBlock,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.IsDisconnectedIBTDelivery,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.NextAppointmentID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ProcessStateCode,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ProctorID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedFormID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedExamVersionID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TerminationDate,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimit,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimitAdjust,
> >> >>> > Clients.Client_ID AS ClientID,
> >> >>> > Clients.ClientName AS ClientName,
> >> >>> > ExamSeries.Code AS ExamSeriesCode,
> >> >>> > ExamVersion.DriverID AS DriverID,
> >> >>> > ExamLanguage.Title AS TranslatedTitle,
> >> >>> > (SELECT AppUser.FirstName || ' ' ||
> AppUser.LastName FROM ((((((AssetAppUser INNER JOIN AppUser ON
> AssetAppUser.AppUserID = AppUser.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON
> AssetAppUser.AssetID = AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN Asset ON
> AssetUsage.AssetID = Asset.ID) INNER JOIN AssetType ON
> Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON
> AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Examiner') INNER JOIN
> AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass')
> WHERE (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)
> FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS ONLY) AS ExaminerName,
> >> >>> > (SELECT Asset.Name FROM ((((Asset INNER JOIN
> AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN
> AssetUsage ON Asset.ID = AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN
> AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID
> AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Vehicle') INNER
> JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass')
> WHERE (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) AND
> (AssetType.AssetClassCode IN
> ('Facility','Workstation','CiscoRack','TaskSchedule')) FETCH FIRST
> 1 ROWS ONLY) AS VehicleName,
> >> >>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (Accommodation INNER JOIN
> AccommodationStatus ON Accommodation.AccommodationStatusID =
> AccommodationStatus.AccommodationStatusID AND
> AccommodationStatus.StatusCode = 'Granted') WHERE
> (Accommodation.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
> AccommodationCount,
> >> >>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM DeliveryBlockedReason WHERE
> (DeliveryBlockedReason.DeliveryEventID =
> DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS ReasonsBlockedCount,
> >> >>> > (SELECT DeliveryEventNext.RegistrationID FROM
> DeliveryEvent AS DeliveryEventNext WHERE
> (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID =
> DeliveryEventNext.NextAppointmentID)) AS FirstDayRegistrationID
> >> >>> > FROM ((((
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent
> >> >>> > INNER JOIN ExamLanguage
> >> >>> > ON DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID =
> ExamLanguage.ID)
> >> >>> > INNER JOIN ExamSeriesON ExamLanguage.ExamSeriesID
> = ExamSeries.ID)
> >> >>> > INNER JOIN Clients
> >> >>> > ON ExamSeries.Client_ID = Clients.Client_ID)
> >> >>> > LEFT JOIN ExamVersion
> >> >>> > ON DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID = ExamVersion.ID)
> >> >>> > WHERE
> >> >>> > (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = 5)
>
Re: AccessControlException with no security manager
Posted by "Besosa, Michael" <mi...@pearson.com>.
I'll open an issue, as you suggest, with the information you requested. And
no, I can't provide a minimum reproducible case yet. A problem with doing
so is that the behavior appears to be sporadic. I haven't found a way to
reproduce it reliably yet.
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 8:15 PM Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Probably best to open an issue in the Derby JIRA, to help keep the
> conversation easy to find and track.
>
> Can you share the complete stack trace of the AccessControlException?
>
> Can you share a run of 'sysinfo' in a configuration where this occurs?
>
> I don't suppose you've been able to whittle this down to a Minimum
> Reproducible Case yet, have you?
>
> thanks,
>
> bryan
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:22 AM Besosa, Michael
> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
> >
> > We're still interested in ideas about this problem. We are getting
> occasional AccessControlExceptions in an environment with no
> SecurityManager installed. This behavior appears to have started when we
> migrated our application to Java 8. It was never seen prior to that. If
> there is additional information that would be useful, please let me know.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:17 PM Bryan Pendleton <
> bpendleton.derby@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ah, good point.
> >>
> >> Yes, I missed that, and yes I was thinking about the network server.
> >>
> >> Sorry about that.
> >>
> >> bryan
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:37 AM Besosa, Michael
> >> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if you missed that this is
> using the embedded engine, not the network server. I know that the network
> server installs a security manager by default, and that there is a system
> property that can be set to disable that behavior. But that's not
> applicable in our situation.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:52 AM Besosa, Michael <
> michael.besosa@pearson.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't understand what you mean when you say, "Even if you don't
> install a Java security manager...you get a security manager anyway." I
> don't have (haven't installed) a security manager and
> System.getSecurityManager() returns null. And if I "really, really" don't
> want a security manager, how can I say so, other than executing
> System.setSecurityManager(null)?
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:03 PM Bryan Pendleton <
> bpendleton.derby@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I feel like you're probably hitting DERBY-6648:
> >> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_DERBY-2D6648&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=Hutrm_MTSwNDtab2E2bMNCxLo0eDRIZrB1B5x2AL-1k&e=
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Even if you don't install a Java security manager (perhaps
> especially
> >> >>> if that is so), you get a security manager anyway.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If you really, really don't want a security manager, you can say so.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Or, bite the bullet and define a security manager, and start
> >> >>> assembling the precise security policy that is right for your
> >> >>> particular situation, as in:
> >> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_a_52392015_193453&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=uackNzNN36boV8-m6DGN7VJOPwN4tnfuUwgQBgOmv0I&e=
> ,
> >> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__db.apache.org_derby_docs_10.13_security_csecembeddedperms.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=53JhmaGEsK92jA_W0ofwQrvGLuaZ-TLXOiDawh9P3rQ&e=
> >> >>> , etc.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> bryan
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Besosa, Michael
> >> >>> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > We have an application that is using the Derby 10.12.1.1 embedded
> engine and Java 8. When the app executes the SELECT shown below, we see an
> exception with the message 'access denied
> org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission( "engine", "usederbyinternals"
> ): java.security.AccessControlException'.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > This application does not install a SecurityManager. I'm at a bit
> of a loss about how to fix this.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > The query:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > SELECT
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.AppointmentStart,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.Attempt,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.BiometricCheckTypeCode,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.CandidateID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.DeliveryStatus,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.HasNoTestListBlock,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.IsDisconnectedIBTDelivery,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.NextAppointmentID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ProcessStateCode,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ProctorID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedFormID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedExamVersionID,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TerminationDate,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimit,
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimitAdjust,
> >> >>> > Clients.Client_ID AS ClientID,
> >> >>> > Clients.ClientName AS ClientName,
> >> >>> > ExamSeries.Code AS ExamSeriesCode,
> >> >>> > ExamVersion.DriverID AS DriverID,
> >> >>> > ExamLanguage.Title AS TranslatedTitle,
> >> >>> > (SELECT AppUser.FirstName || ' ' || AppUser.LastName FROM
> ((((((AssetAppUser INNER JOIN AppUser ON AssetAppUser.AppUserID =
> AppUser.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON AssetAppUser.AssetID =
> AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN Asset ON AssetUsage.AssetID = Asset.ID)
> INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN
> AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Examiner') INNER JOIN
> AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE
> (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS
> ONLY) AS ExaminerName,
> >> >>> > (SELECT Asset.Name FROM ((((Asset INNER JOIN AssetType ON
> Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON Asset.ID =
> AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID =
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue
> = 'Vehicle') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE
> (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) AND
> (AssetType.AssetClassCode IN
> ('Facility','Workstation','CiscoRack','TaskSchedule')) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS
> ONLY) AS VehicleName,
> >> >>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (Accommodation INNER JOIN
> AccommodationStatus ON Accommodation.AccommodationStatusID =
> AccommodationStatus.AccommodationStatusID AND
> AccommodationStatus.StatusCode = 'Granted') WHERE
> (Accommodation.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
> AccommodationCount,
> >> >>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM DeliveryBlockedReason WHERE
> (DeliveryBlockedReason.DeliveryEventID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
> ReasonsBlockedCount,
> >> >>> > (SELECT DeliveryEventNext.RegistrationID FROM
> DeliveryEvent AS DeliveryEventNext WHERE (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID =
> DeliveryEventNext.NextAppointmentID)) AS FirstDayRegistrationID
> >> >>> > FROM ((((
> >> >>> > DeliveryEvent
> >> >>> > INNER JOIN ExamLanguage
> >> >>> > ON DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID = ExamLanguage.ID)
> >> >>> > INNER JOIN ExamSeriesON ExamLanguage.ExamSeriesID =
> ExamSeries.ID)
> >> >>> > INNER JOIN Clients
> >> >>> > ON ExamSeries.Client_ID = Clients.Client_ID)
> >> >>> > LEFT JOIN ExamVersion
> >> >>> > ON DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID = ExamVersion.ID)
> >> >>> > WHERE
> >> >>> > (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = 5)
>
Re: AccessControlException with no security manager
Posted by Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com>.
Probably best to open an issue in the Derby JIRA, to help keep the
conversation easy to find and track.
Can you share the complete stack trace of the AccessControlException?
Can you share a run of 'sysinfo' in a configuration where this occurs?
I don't suppose you've been able to whittle this down to a Minimum
Reproducible Case yet, have you?
thanks,
bryan
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 6:22 AM Besosa, Michael
<mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>
> We're still interested in ideas about this problem. We are getting occasional AccessControlExceptions in an environment with no SecurityManager installed. This behavior appears to have started when we migrated our application to Java 8. It was never seen prior to that. If there is additional information that would be useful, please let me know.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:17 PM Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ah, good point.
>>
>> Yes, I missed that, and yes I was thinking about the network server.
>>
>> Sorry about that.
>>
>> bryan
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:37 AM Besosa, Michael
>> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if you missed that this is using the embedded engine, not the network server. I know that the network server installs a security manager by default, and that there is a system property that can be set to disable that behavior. But that's not applicable in our situation.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:52 AM Besosa, Michael <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I don't understand what you mean when you say, "Even if you don't install a Java security manager...you get a security manager anyway." I don't have (haven't installed) a security manager and System.getSecurityManager() returns null. And if I "really, really" don't want a security manager, how can I say so, other than executing System.setSecurityManager(null)?
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:03 PM Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I feel like you're probably hitting DERBY-6648:
>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_DERBY-2D6648&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=Hutrm_MTSwNDtab2E2bMNCxLo0eDRIZrB1B5x2AL-1k&e=
>> >>>
>> >>> Even if you don't install a Java security manager (perhaps especially
>> >>> if that is so), you get a security manager anyway.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you really, really don't want a security manager, you can say so.
>> >>>
>> >>> Or, bite the bullet and define a security manager, and start
>> >>> assembling the precise security policy that is right for your
>> >>> particular situation, as in:
>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_a_52392015_193453&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=uackNzNN36boV8-m6DGN7VJOPwN4tnfuUwgQBgOmv0I&e= ,
>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__db.apache.org_derby_docs_10.13_security_csecembeddedperms.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=53JhmaGEsK92jA_W0ofwQrvGLuaZ-TLXOiDawh9P3rQ&e=
>> >>> , etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> bryan
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Besosa, Michael
>> >>> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > We have an application that is using the Derby 10.12.1.1 embedded engine and Java 8. When the app executes the SELECT shown below, we see an exception with the message 'access denied org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission( "engine", "usederbyinternals" ): java.security.AccessControlException'.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > This application does not install a SecurityManager. I'm at a bit of a loss about how to fix this.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The query:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > SELECT
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.AppointmentStart,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.Attempt,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.BiometricCheckTypeCode,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.CandidateID,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.DeliveryStatus,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.HasNoTestListBlock,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.IsDisconnectedIBTDelivery,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.NextAppointmentID,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ProcessStateCode,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ProctorID,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedFormID,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedExamVersionID,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TerminationDate,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimit,
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimitAdjust,
>> >>> > Clients.Client_ID AS ClientID,
>> >>> > Clients.ClientName AS ClientName,
>> >>> > ExamSeries.Code AS ExamSeriesCode,
>> >>> > ExamVersion.DriverID AS DriverID,
>> >>> > ExamLanguage.Title AS TranslatedTitle,
>> >>> > (SELECT AppUser.FirstName || ' ' || AppUser.LastName FROM ((((((AssetAppUser INNER JOIN AppUser ON AssetAppUser.AppUserID = AppUser.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON AssetAppUser.AssetID = AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN Asset ON AssetUsage.AssetID = Asset.ID) INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Examiner') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID = AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS ONLY) AS ExaminerName,
>> >>> > (SELECT Asset.Name FROM ((((Asset INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON Asset.ID = AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Vehicle') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID = AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) AND (AssetType.AssetClassCode IN ('Facility','Workstation','CiscoRack','TaskSchedule')) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS ONLY) AS VehicleName,
>> >>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (Accommodation INNER JOIN AccommodationStatus ON Accommodation.AccommodationStatusID = AccommodationStatus.AccommodationStatusID AND AccommodationStatus.StatusCode = 'Granted') WHERE (Accommodation.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS AccommodationCount,
>> >>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM DeliveryBlockedReason WHERE (DeliveryBlockedReason.DeliveryEventID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS ReasonsBlockedCount,
>> >>> > (SELECT DeliveryEventNext.RegistrationID FROM DeliveryEvent AS DeliveryEventNext WHERE (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = DeliveryEventNext.NextAppointmentID)) AS FirstDayRegistrationID
>> >>> > FROM ((((
>> >>> > DeliveryEvent
>> >>> > INNER JOIN ExamLanguage
>> >>> > ON DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID = ExamLanguage.ID)
>> >>> > INNER JOIN ExamSeriesON ExamLanguage.ExamSeriesID = ExamSeries.ID)
>> >>> > INNER JOIN Clients
>> >>> > ON ExamSeries.Client_ID = Clients.Client_ID)
>> >>> > LEFT JOIN ExamVersion
>> >>> > ON DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID = ExamVersion.ID)
>> >>> > WHERE
>> >>> > (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = 5)
Re: AccessControlException with no security manager
Posted by "Besosa, Michael" <mi...@pearson.com>.
We're still interested in ideas about this problem. We are getting
occasional AccessControlExceptions in an environment with no
SecurityManager installed. This behavior appears to have started when we
migrated our application to Java 8. It was never seen prior to that. If
there is additional information that would be useful, please let me know.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:17 PM Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Ah, good point.
>
> Yes, I missed that, and yes I was thinking about the network server.
>
> Sorry about that.
>
> bryan
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:37 AM Besosa, Michael
> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if you missed that this is using
> the embedded engine, not the network server. I know that the network server
> installs a security manager by default, and that there is a system property
> that can be set to disable that behavior. But that's not applicable in our
> situation.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:52 AM Besosa, Michael <
> michael.besosa@pearson.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't understand what you mean when you say, "Even if you don't
> install a Java security manager...you get a security manager anyway." I
> don't have (haven't installed) a security manager and
> System.getSecurityManager() returns null. And if I "really, really" don't
> want a security manager, how can I say so, other than executing
> System.setSecurityManager(null)?
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:03 PM Bryan Pendleton <
> bpendleton.derby@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I feel like you're probably hitting DERBY-6648:
> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_DERBY-2D6648&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=Hutrm_MTSwNDtab2E2bMNCxLo0eDRIZrB1B5x2AL-1k&e=
> >>>
> >>> Even if you don't install a Java security manager (perhaps especially
> >>> if that is so), you get a security manager anyway.
> >>>
> >>> If you really, really don't want a security manager, you can say so.
> >>>
> >>> Or, bite the bullet and define a security manager, and start
> >>> assembling the precise security policy that is right for your
> >>> particular situation, as in:
> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_a_52392015_193453&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=uackNzNN36boV8-m6DGN7VJOPwN4tnfuUwgQBgOmv0I&e=
> ,
> >>>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__db.apache.org_derby_docs_10.13_security_csecembeddedperms.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=53JhmaGEsK92jA_W0ofwQrvGLuaZ-TLXOiDawh9P3rQ&e=
> >>> , etc.
> >>>
> >>> bryan
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Besosa, Michael
> >>> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > We have an application that is using the Derby 10.12.1.1 embedded
> engine and Java 8. When the app executes the SELECT shown below, we see an
> exception with the message 'access denied
> org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission( "engine", "usederbyinternals"
> ): java.security.AccessControlException'.
> >>> >
> >>> > This application does not install a SecurityManager. I'm at a bit of
> a loss about how to fix this.
> >>> >
> >>> > The query:
> >>> >
> >>> > SELECT
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.AppointmentStart,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.Attempt,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.BiometricCheckTypeCode,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.CandidateID,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.DeliveryStatus,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.HasNoTestListBlock,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.IsDisconnectedIBTDelivery,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.NextAppointmentID,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ProcessStateCode,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.ProctorID,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedFormID,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedExamVersionID,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TerminationDate,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimit,
> >>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimitAdjust,
> >>> > Clients.Client_ID AS ClientID,
> >>> > Clients.ClientName AS ClientName,
> >>> > ExamSeries.Code AS ExamSeriesCode,
> >>> > ExamVersion.DriverID AS DriverID,
> >>> > ExamLanguage.Title AS TranslatedTitle,
> >>> > (SELECT AppUser.FirstName || ' ' || AppUser.LastName FROM
> ((((((AssetAppUser INNER JOIN AppUser ON AssetAppUser.AppUserID =
> AppUser.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON AssetAppUser.AssetID =
> AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN Asset ON AssetUsage.AssetID = Asset.ID)
> INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN
> AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Examiner') INNER JOIN
> AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE
> (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS
> ONLY) AS ExaminerName,
> >>> > (SELECT Asset.Name FROM ((((Asset INNER JOIN AssetType ON
> Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON Asset.ID =
> AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID =
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue
> = 'Vehicle') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE
> (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) AND
> (AssetType.AssetClassCode IN
> ('Facility','Workstation','CiscoRack','TaskSchedule')) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS
> ONLY) AS VehicleName,
> >>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (Accommodation INNER JOIN
> AccommodationStatus ON Accommodation.AccommodationStatusID =
> AccommodationStatus.AccommodationStatusID AND
> AccommodationStatus.StatusCode = 'Granted') WHERE
> (Accommodation.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
> AccommodationCount,
> >>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM DeliveryBlockedReason WHERE
> (DeliveryBlockedReason.DeliveryEventID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
> ReasonsBlockedCount,
> >>> > (SELECT DeliveryEventNext.RegistrationID FROM DeliveryEvent
> AS DeliveryEventNext WHERE (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID =
> DeliveryEventNext.NextAppointmentID)) AS FirstDayRegistrationID
> >>> > FROM ((((
> >>> > DeliveryEvent
> >>> > INNER JOIN ExamLanguage
> >>> > ON DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID = ExamLanguage.ID)
> >>> > INNER JOIN ExamSeriesON ExamLanguage.ExamSeriesID =
> ExamSeries.ID)
> >>> > INNER JOIN Clients
> >>> > ON ExamSeries.Client_ID = Clients.Client_ID)
> >>> > LEFT JOIN ExamVersion
> >>> > ON DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID = ExamVersion.ID)
> >>> > WHERE
> >>> > (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = 5)
>
Re: AccessControlException with no security manager
Posted by Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com>.
Ah, good point.
Yes, I missed that, and yes I was thinking about the network server.
Sorry about that.
bryan
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:37 AM Besosa, Michael
<mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>
> Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if you missed that this is using the embedded engine, not the network server. I know that the network server installs a security manager by default, and that there is a system property that can be set to disable that behavior. But that's not applicable in our situation.
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:52 AM Besosa, Michael <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean when you say, "Even if you don't install a Java security manager...you get a security manager anyway." I don't have (haven't installed) a security manager and System.getSecurityManager() returns null. And if I "really, really" don't want a security manager, how can I say so, other than executing System.setSecurityManager(null)?
>>
>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:03 PM Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I feel like you're probably hitting DERBY-6648:
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_DERBY-2D6648&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=Hutrm_MTSwNDtab2E2bMNCxLo0eDRIZrB1B5x2AL-1k&e=
>>>
>>> Even if you don't install a Java security manager (perhaps especially
>>> if that is so), you get a security manager anyway.
>>>
>>> If you really, really don't want a security manager, you can say so.
>>>
>>> Or, bite the bullet and define a security manager, and start
>>> assembling the precise security policy that is right for your
>>> particular situation, as in:
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_a_52392015_193453&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=uackNzNN36boV8-m6DGN7VJOPwN4tnfuUwgQBgOmv0I&e= ,
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__db.apache.org_derby_docs_10.13_security_csecembeddedperms.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=53JhmaGEsK92jA_W0ofwQrvGLuaZ-TLXOiDawh9P3rQ&e=
>>> , etc.
>>>
>>> bryan
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Besosa, Michael
>>> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > We have an application that is using the Derby 10.12.1.1 embedded engine and Java 8. When the app executes the SELECT shown below, we see an exception with the message 'access denied org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission( "engine", "usederbyinternals" ): java.security.AccessControlException'.
>>> >
>>> > This application does not install a SecurityManager. I'm at a bit of a loss about how to fix this.
>>> >
>>> > The query:
>>> >
>>> > SELECT
>>> > DeliveryEvent.AppointmentStart,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.Attempt,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.BiometricCheckTypeCode,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.CandidateID,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.DeliveryStatus,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.HasNoTestListBlock,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.IsDisconnectedIBTDelivery,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.NextAppointmentID,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.ProcessStateCode,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.ProctorID,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedFormID,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedExamVersionID,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.TerminationDate,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimit,
>>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimitAdjust,
>>> > Clients.Client_ID AS ClientID,
>>> > Clients.ClientName AS ClientName,
>>> > ExamSeries.Code AS ExamSeriesCode,
>>> > ExamVersion.DriverID AS DriverID,
>>> > ExamLanguage.Title AS TranslatedTitle,
>>> > (SELECT AppUser.FirstName || ' ' || AppUser.LastName FROM ((((((AssetAppUser INNER JOIN AppUser ON AssetAppUser.AppUserID = AppUser.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON AssetAppUser.AssetID = AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN Asset ON AssetUsage.AssetID = Asset.ID) INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Examiner') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID = AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS ONLY) AS ExaminerName,
>>> > (SELECT Asset.Name FROM ((((Asset INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON Asset.ID = AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Vehicle') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID = AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) AND (AssetType.AssetClassCode IN ('Facility','Workstation','CiscoRack','TaskSchedule')) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS ONLY) AS VehicleName,
>>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (Accommodation INNER JOIN AccommodationStatus ON Accommodation.AccommodationStatusID = AccommodationStatus.AccommodationStatusID AND AccommodationStatus.StatusCode = 'Granted') WHERE (Accommodation.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS AccommodationCount,
>>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM DeliveryBlockedReason WHERE (DeliveryBlockedReason.DeliveryEventID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS ReasonsBlockedCount,
>>> > (SELECT DeliveryEventNext.RegistrationID FROM DeliveryEvent AS DeliveryEventNext WHERE (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = DeliveryEventNext.NextAppointmentID)) AS FirstDayRegistrationID
>>> > FROM ((((
>>> > DeliveryEvent
>>> > INNER JOIN ExamLanguage
>>> > ON DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID = ExamLanguage.ID)
>>> > INNER JOIN ExamSeriesON ExamLanguage.ExamSeriesID = ExamSeries.ID)
>>> > INNER JOIN Clients
>>> > ON ExamSeries.Client_ID = Clients.Client_ID)
>>> > LEFT JOIN ExamVersion
>>> > ON DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID = ExamVersion.ID)
>>> > WHERE
>>> > (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = 5)
Re: AccessControlException with no security manager
Posted by "Besosa, Michael" <mi...@pearson.com>.
Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if you missed that this is using the
embedded engine, not the network server. I know that the network server
installs a security manager by default, and that there is a system property
that can be set to disable that behavior. But that's not applicable in our
situation.
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 8:52 AM Besosa, Michael <mi...@pearson.com>
wrote:
> I don't understand what you mean when you say, "Even if you don't install
> a Java security manager...you get a security manager anyway." I don't have
> (haven't installed) a security manager and System.getSecurityManager()
> returns null. And if I "really, really" don't want a security manager, how
> can I say so, other than executing System.setSecurityManager(null)?
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:03 PM Bryan Pendleton <
> bpendleton.derby@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I feel like you're probably hitting DERBY-6648:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_DERBY-2D6648&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=Hutrm_MTSwNDtab2E2bMNCxLo0eDRIZrB1B5x2AL-1k&e=
>>
>> Even if you don't install a Java security manager (perhaps especially
>> if that is so), you get a security manager anyway.
>>
>> If you really, really don't want a security manager, you can say so.
>>
>> Or, bite the bullet and define a security manager, and start
>> assembling the precise security policy that is right for your
>> particular situation, as in:
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_a_52392015_193453&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=uackNzNN36boV8-m6DGN7VJOPwN4tnfuUwgQBgOmv0I&e=
>> ,
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__db.apache.org_derby_docs_10.13_security_csecembeddedperms.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=53JhmaGEsK92jA_W0ofwQrvGLuaZ-TLXOiDawh9P3rQ&e=
>> , etc.
>>
>> bryan
>>
>> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Besosa, Michael
>> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > We have an application that is using the Derby 10.12.1.1 embedded
>> engine and Java 8. When the app executes the SELECT shown below, we see an
>> exception with the message 'access denied
>> org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission( "engine", "usederbyinternals"
>> ): java.security.AccessControlException'.
>> >
>> > This application does not install a SecurityManager. I'm at a bit of a
>> loss about how to fix this.
>> >
>> > The query:
>> >
>> > SELECT
>> > DeliveryEvent.AppointmentStart,
>> > DeliveryEvent.Attempt,
>> > DeliveryEvent.BiometricCheckTypeCode,
>> > DeliveryEvent.CandidateID,
>> > DeliveryEvent.DeliveryStatus,
>> > DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID,
>> > DeliveryEvent.HasNoTestListBlock,
>> > DeliveryEvent.IsDisconnectedIBTDelivery,
>> > DeliveryEvent.NextAppointmentID,
>> > DeliveryEvent.ProcessStateCode,
>> > DeliveryEvent.ProctorID,
>> > DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID,
>> > DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID,
>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedFormID,
>> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedExamVersionID,
>> > DeliveryEvent.TerminationDate,
>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimit,
>> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimitAdjust,
>> > Clients.Client_ID AS ClientID,
>> > Clients.ClientName AS ClientName,
>> > ExamSeries.Code AS ExamSeriesCode,
>> > ExamVersion.DriverID AS DriverID,
>> > ExamLanguage.Title AS TranslatedTitle,
>> > (SELECT AppUser.FirstName || ' ' || AppUser.LastName FROM
>> ((((((AssetAppUser INNER JOIN AppUser ON AssetAppUser.AppUserID =
>> AppUser.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON AssetAppUser.AssetID =
>> AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN Asset ON AssetUsage.AssetID = Asset.ID)
>> INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN
>> AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND
>> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Examiner') INNER JOIN
>> AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
>> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
>> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE
>> (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS
>> ONLY) AS ExaminerName,
>> > (SELECT Asset.Name FROM ((((Asset INNER JOIN AssetType ON
>> Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON Asset.ID =
>> AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID =
>> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue
>> = 'Vehicle') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON
>> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
>> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
>> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE
>> (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) AND
>> (AssetType.AssetClassCode IN
>> ('Facility','Workstation','CiscoRack','TaskSchedule')) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS
>> ONLY) AS VehicleName,
>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (Accommodation INNER JOIN
>> AccommodationStatus ON Accommodation.AccommodationStatusID =
>> AccommodationStatus.AccommodationStatusID AND
>> AccommodationStatus.StatusCode = 'Granted') WHERE
>> (Accommodation.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
>> AccommodationCount,
>> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM DeliveryBlockedReason WHERE
>> (DeliveryBlockedReason.DeliveryEventID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
>> ReasonsBlockedCount,
>> > (SELECT DeliveryEventNext.RegistrationID FROM DeliveryEvent AS
>> DeliveryEventNext WHERE (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID =
>> DeliveryEventNext.NextAppointmentID)) AS FirstDayRegistrationID
>> > FROM ((((
>> > DeliveryEvent
>> > INNER JOIN ExamLanguage
>> > ON DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID = ExamLanguage.ID)
>> > INNER JOIN ExamSeriesON ExamLanguage.ExamSeriesID =
>> ExamSeries.ID)
>> > INNER JOIN Clients
>> > ON ExamSeries.Client_ID = Clients.Client_ID)
>> > LEFT JOIN ExamVersion
>> > ON DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID = ExamVersion.ID)
>> > WHERE
>> > (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = 5)
>>
>
Re: AccessControlException with no security manager
Posted by "Besosa, Michael" <mi...@pearson.com>.
I don't understand what you mean when you say, "Even if you don't install a
Java security manager...you get a security manager anyway." I don't have
(haven't installed) a security manager and System.getSecurityManager()
returns null. And if I "really, really" don't want a security manager, how
can I say so, other than executing System.setSecurityManager(null)?
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:03 PM Bryan Pendleton <bp...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I feel like you're probably hitting DERBY-6648:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_DERBY-2D6648&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=Hutrm_MTSwNDtab2E2bMNCxLo0eDRIZrB1B5x2AL-1k&e=
>
> Even if you don't install a Java security manager (perhaps especially
> if that is so), you get a security manager anyway.
>
> If you really, really don't want a security manager, you can say so.
>
> Or, bite the bullet and define a security manager, and start
> assembling the precise security policy that is right for your
> particular situation, as in:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__stackoverflow.com_a_52392015_193453&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=uackNzNN36boV8-m6DGN7VJOPwN4tnfuUwgQBgOmv0I&e=
> ,
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__db.apache.org_derby_docs_10.13_security_csecembeddedperms.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=0YLnzTkWOdJlub_y7qAx8Q&r=Wl0HX9k4fXSgP8TsHwfE2EzboRhWUZIw3D92MjZ0k8A&m=jAZ8M-UCTv0Ms-FrB1NaYA62mIGrbUhHirW9AxhEyxw&s=53JhmaGEsK92jA_W0ofwQrvGLuaZ-TLXOiDawh9P3rQ&e=
> , etc.
>
> bryan
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:58 AM Besosa, Michael
> <mi...@pearson.com> wrote:
> >
> > We have an application that is using the Derby 10.12.1.1 embedded engine
> and Java 8. When the app executes the SELECT shown below, we see an
> exception with the message 'access denied
> org.apache.derby.security.SystemPermission( "engine", "usederbyinternals"
> ): java.security.AccessControlException'.
> >
> > This application does not install a SecurityManager. I'm at a bit of a
> loss about how to fix this.
> >
> > The query:
> >
> > SELECT
> > DeliveryEvent.AppointmentStart,
> > DeliveryEvent.Attempt,
> > DeliveryEvent.BiometricCheckTypeCode,
> > DeliveryEvent.CandidateID,
> > DeliveryEvent.DeliveryStatus,
> > DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID,
> > DeliveryEvent.HasNoTestListBlock,
> > DeliveryEvent.IsDisconnectedIBTDelivery,
> > DeliveryEvent.NextAppointmentID,
> > DeliveryEvent.ProcessStateCode,
> > DeliveryEvent.ProctorID,
> > DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID,
> > DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID,
> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedFormID,
> > DeliveryEvent.SelectedExamVersionID,
> > DeliveryEvent.TerminationDate,
> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimit,
> > DeliveryEvent.TimeLimitAdjust,
> > Clients.Client_ID AS ClientID,
> > Clients.ClientName AS ClientName,
> > ExamSeries.Code AS ExamSeriesCode,
> > ExamVersion.DriverID AS DriverID,
> > ExamLanguage.Title AS TranslatedTitle,
> > (SELECT AppUser.FirstName || ' ' || AppUser.LastName FROM
> ((((((AssetAppUser INNER JOIN AppUser ON AssetAppUser.AppUserID =
> AppUser.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON AssetAppUser.AssetID =
> AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN Asset ON AssetUsage.AssetID = Asset.ID)
> INNER JOIN AssetType ON Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN
> AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID = AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue = 'Examiner') INNER JOIN
> AssetTypePropertyKey ON AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE
> (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS
> ONLY) AS ExaminerName,
> > (SELECT Asset.Name FROM ((((Asset INNER JOIN AssetType ON
> Asset.AssetTypeID = AssetType.ID) INNER JOIN AssetUsage ON Asset.ID =
> AssetUsage.AssetID) INNER JOIN AssetTypeProperty ON AssetType.ID =
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypeID AND AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyValue
> = 'Vehicle') INNER JOIN AssetTypePropertyKey ON
> AssetTypeProperty.AssetTypePropertyKeyID =
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyID AND
> AssetTypePropertyKey.AssetTypePropertyKeyName = 'AssetSubClass') WHERE
> (AssetUsage.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID) AND
> (AssetType.AssetClassCode IN
> ('Facility','Workstation','CiscoRack','TaskSchedule')) FETCH FIRST 1 ROWS
> ONLY) AS VehicleName,
> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM (Accommodation INNER JOIN
> AccommodationStatus ON Accommodation.AccommodationStatusID =
> AccommodationStatus.AccommodationStatusID AND
> AccommodationStatus.StatusCode = 'Granted') WHERE
> (Accommodation.OrderItemID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
> AccommodationCount,
> > (SELECT COUNT(*) FROM DeliveryBlockedReason WHERE
> (DeliveryBlockedReason.DeliveryEventID = DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID)) AS
> ReasonsBlockedCount,
> > (SELECT DeliveryEventNext.RegistrationID FROM DeliveryEvent AS
> DeliveryEventNext WHERE (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID =
> DeliveryEventNext.NextAppointmentID)) AS FirstDayRegistrationID
> > FROM ((((
> > DeliveryEvent
> > INNER JOIN ExamLanguage
> > ON DeliveryEvent.ExamLanguageID = ExamLanguage.ID)
> > INNER JOIN ExamSeriesON ExamLanguage.ExamSeriesID =
> ExamSeries.ID)
> > INNER JOIN Clients
> > ON ExamSeries.Client_ID = Clients.Client_ID)
> > LEFT JOIN ExamVersion
> > ON DeliveryEvent.RegisteredExamVersionID = ExamVersion.ID)
> > WHERE
> > (DeliveryEvent.RegistrationID = 5)
>