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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by Sean Qiu <se...@gmail.com> on 2010/01/27 02:26:37 UTC
[general] Google Summer of Code 2010
Have someone notice this? Seems that it is time to dicuss our potential
proposals.
----
"We will begin accepting application from
would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately
19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC.
Students can apply between 19:00 UTC on March 29th to 19:00 UTC on
April 9th."
http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f
Best Regards
Sean, Xiao Xia Qiu
Re: [general] Google Summer of Code 2010
Posted by Daniel Gong <da...@gmail.com>.
WOW, eager to participate again~:)
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Sean Qiu <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have someone notice this? Seems that it is time to dicuss our potential
> proposals.
>
> ----
> "We will begin accepting application from
> would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately
> 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC.
> Students can apply between 19:00 UTC on March 29th to 19:00 UTC on
> April 9th."
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f
>
>
> Best Regards
> Sean, Xiao Xia Qiu
>
Re: [general] Google Summer of Code 2010
Posted by 倪森 <ni...@gmail.com>.
I'm interested in gsoc2010。I'm a teacher and coder now。
I'm interested in http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/Harmony_i18n_tool 。I
want to guide some students to work for it。
Now I discuss with Jing Lv the proponent of the idea。
2010/2/2 Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com>:
>
> In message <20...@d06av03.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>,
> Mark Hindess writes:
>>
>> In message <94...@mail.gmail.com>,
>> Sean Qiu writes:
>> >
>> > Have someone notice this? Seems that it is time to dicuss our
>> > potential proposals.
>>
>> Yes. Indeed. We should use the wiki again.
>>
>> I also think we should consider our selection criteria. My experience
>> has been that:
>>
>> 1) there tends not to be much to distinguish proposals (once you've
>> excluded the rushed/poor proposals choosing between the rest is
>> difficult)
>>
>> 2) there hasn't been as much interaction as I would like (I'd go as
>> far as suggesting that a number of failed projects would have passed
>> if they had done better at this)
>>
>> I'd like to try to tackle this by only considering proposals from
>> individuals that have already had a patch integrated.
>
> I forgot to mention that I think we should also only consider proposals
> from individuals that have already filed an ACQ/ICLA.
>
>> What do others think? (I'm particularly interested to know what past
>> applicants think.)
>
> I'd still like to know what others thing about my added restrictions?
> Of course, it doesn't really matter if people disagree with me since
> as a mentor I can impose conditions on the types of students I want
> to mentor but if possible I'd like to get broad agreement to make it
> consistent across all the Harmony proposed projects.
>
> Regards,
> Mark.
>
>
>
Re: [general] Google Summer of Code 2010
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Mark,
After two GSoC years I don't really think any formal rule would work.
My rules follow:
1. The student should be able to work by herself and motivate himself.
Pressure from a mentor doesn't work anyway.
2. The mentor's task should be very easy (still, it should require coding).
3. Skype interview is a nice thing.
Signing ACQ/ICLA are minor issue compared to the fact that majority of
students don't even know that cut&paste should not be used in their
code. There is a big gap between signing and understanding, especially
if you hardly understand English.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Mark Hindess
<ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> In message <20...@d06av03.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>,
> Mark Hindess writes:
>>
>> In message <94...@mail.gmail.com>,
>> Sean Qiu writes:
>> >
>> > Have someone notice this? Seems that it is time to dicuss our
>> > potential proposals.
>>
>> Yes. Indeed. We should use the wiki again.
>>
>> I also think we should consider our selection criteria. My experience
>> has been that:
>>
>> 1) there tends not to be much to distinguish proposals (once you've
>> excluded the rushed/poor proposals choosing between the rest is
>> difficult)
>>
>> 2) there hasn't been as much interaction as I would like (I'd go as
>> far as suggesting that a number of failed projects would have passed
>> if they had done better at this)
>>
>> I'd like to try to tackle this by only considering proposals from
>> individuals that have already had a patch integrated.
>
> I forgot to mention that I think we should also only consider proposals
> from individuals that have already filed an ACQ/ICLA.
>
>> What do others think? (I'm particularly interested to know what past
>> applicants think.)
>
> I'd still like to know what others thing about my added restrictions?
> Of course, it doesn't really matter if people disagree with me since
> as a mentor I can impose conditions on the types of students I want
> to mentor but if possible I'd like to get broad agreement to make it
> consistent across all the Harmony proposed projects.
>
> Regards,
> Mark.
>
>
>
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://www.telecom-express.ru/
http://harmony.apache.org/
http://www.expressaas.com/
http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/
Re: [general] Google Summer of Code 2010
Posted by Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com>.
In message <20...@d06av03.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>,
Mark Hindess writes:
>
> In message <94...@mail.gmail.com>,
> Sean Qiu writes:
> >
> > Have someone notice this? Seems that it is time to dicuss our
> > potential proposals.
>
> Yes. Indeed. We should use the wiki again.
>
> I also think we should consider our selection criteria. My experience
> has been that:
>
> 1) there tends not to be much to distinguish proposals (once you've
> excluded the rushed/poor proposals choosing between the rest is
> difficult)
>
> 2) there hasn't been as much interaction as I would like (I'd go as
> far as suggesting that a number of failed projects would have passed
> if they had done better at this)
>
> I'd like to try to tackle this by only considering proposals from
> individuals that have already had a patch integrated.
I forgot to mention that I think we should also only consider proposals
from individuals that have already filed an ACQ/ICLA.
> What do others think? (I'm particularly interested to know what past
> applicants think.)
I'd still like to know what others thing about my added restrictions?
Of course, it doesn't really matter if people disagree with me since
as a mentor I can impose conditions on the types of students I want
to mentor but if possible I'd like to get broad agreement to make it
consistent across all the Harmony proposed projects.
Regards,
Mark.
Re: [general] Google Summer of Code 2010
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
I believe the task should be modular. It's hard for a student to get
all product dependencies.
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Mark Hindess
<ma...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> In message <94...@mail.gmail.com>,
> Sean Qiu writes:
>>
>> Have someone notice this? Seems that it is time to dicuss our
>> potential proposals.
>
> Yes. Indeed. We should use the wiki again.
>
> I also think we should consider our selection criteria. My experience
> has been that:
>
> 1) there tends not to be much to distinguish proposals (once you've
> excluded the rushed/poor proposals choosing between the rest is
> difficult)
>
> 2) there hasn't been as much interaction as I would like (I'd go as far
> as suggesting that a number of failed projects would have passed if they
> had done better at this)
>
> I'd like to try to tackle this by only considering proposals from
> individuals that have already had a patch integrated.
>
> What do others think? (I'm particularly interested to know what past
> applicants think.)
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>
>
>
>
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://www.telecom-express.ru/
http://harmony.apache.org/
http://www.expressaas.com/
http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/
Re: [general] Google Summer of Code 2010
Posted by Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com>.
In message <94...@mail.gmail.com>,
Sean Qiu writes:
>
> Have someone notice this? Seems that it is time to dicuss our
> potential proposals.
Yes. Indeed. We should use the wiki again.
I also think we should consider our selection criteria. My experience
has been that:
1) there tends not to be much to distinguish proposals (once you've
excluded the rushed/poor proposals choosing between the rest is
difficult)
2) there hasn't been as much interaction as I would like (I'd go as far
as suggesting that a number of failed projects would have passed if they
had done better at this)
I'd like to try to tackle this by only considering proposals from
individuals that have already had a patch integrated.
What do others think? (I'm particularly interested to know what past
applicants think.)
Regards,
Mark
Re: [general] Google Summer of Code 2010
Posted by 倪森 <ni...@gmail.com>.
I create a page http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2010 for discuss.
2010/1/27 Sean Qiu <se...@gmail.com>:
> Have someone notice this? Seems that it is time to dicuss our potential
> proposals.
>
> ----
> "We will begin accepting application from
> would-be mentoring organizations beginning March 8th at approximately
> 19:00 UTC, with applications closing on March 12th at 23:00 UTC.
> Students can apply between 19:00 UTC on March 29th to 19:00 UTC on
> April 9th."
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d839c0b02ac15b3f
>
>
> Best Regards
> Sean, Xiao Xia Qiu
>