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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de> on 2004/01/30 10:54:12 UTC

Releasing 2.1.4?

What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)

There are some open issues from our "management" list:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25320

And next friday is our first "first friday" for this year. So I
would propose to start the code freeze right after the "first friday"
and release one week later.

Now, I'm not really superstitious but as I don't want to do a release
on a friday, 13th and as I'm not able to do the release between
the 14th and the 21th of february, I propose the 12th of february
as the release date for 2.1.4 - regardless if we have solved all
the open issues (RORE - Release often, release early).

WDYAT?

Carsten 

Carsten Ziegeler 
Open Source Group, S&N AG
http://www.osoco.net/weblogs/rael/

Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>.
On 30.01.2004 16:38, Geoff Howard wrote:

> Appears it's properly blocking in the release plan for next release:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25321

Yes, I changed it today shortly before all the other buzilla mails were 
sent to the list. I don't know if no mail is sent on adding dependencies 
or if those mails still haven't arrived the list as often in the last 
days. I only do not expect this as the other mails arrived immediately. 
Where are the bugzilla admins (Bertrand?), maybe they can have a look 
whether mails are sent on changes on dependencies?

Joerg

[bug 26376] ,was: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le Vendredi, 30 jan 2004, à 16:38 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit :
> ...Appears it's properly blocking in the release plan for next release:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25321
>
> Am I interpreting that right?

you're right - I have increased the severity to make it more obvious.

-Bertrand


Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Geoff Howard <co...@leverageweb.com>.
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> 
> Le Vendredi, 30 jan 2004, à 14:30 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit :
> 
>>> On 30.01.2004 10:54, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...I propose the 12th of february
>>>> as the release date for 2.1.4 - regardless if we have solved all
>>>> the open issues (RORE - Release often, release early).
>>>>
>>>> WDYAT?
>>>
>>> +1
>>
>>
>> +1 - The 1.3 runtime incompatibility recently reported should be a 
>> blocker though (not sure if it's in bugzilla or not).  Still, I'd say 
>> it could be fixed by then.
> 
> 
> +1, also for the 1.3 problem.

Appears it's properly blocking in the release plan for next release:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25321

Am I interpreting that right?

Geoff


Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le Vendredi, 30 jan 2004, à 14:30 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit :

>> On 30.01.2004 10:54, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>>> ...I propose the 12th of february
>>> as the release date for 2.1.4 - regardless if we have solved all
>>> the open issues (RORE - Release often, release early).
>>>
>>> WDYAT?
>> +1
>
> +1 - The 1.3 runtime incompatibility recently reported should be a 
> blocker though (not sure if it's in bugzilla or not).  Still, I'd say 
> it could be fixed by then.

+1, also for the 1.3 problem.

-Bertrand


Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Geoff Howard <co...@leverageweb.com>.
Joerg Heinicke wrote:

> On 30.01.2004 10:54, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> 
>> What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)
>>
>> There are some open issues from our "management" list:
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25320
> 
> 
> This one that is about the next release looks much better :)
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25321
> 
>> And next friday is our first "first friday" for this year. So I
>> would propose to start the code freeze right after the "first friday"
>> and release one week later.
>>
>> Now, I'm not really superstitious but as I don't want to do a release
>> on a friday, 13th and as I'm not able to do the release between
>> the 14th and the 21th of february, I propose the 12th of february
>> as the release date for 2.1.4 - regardless if we have solved all
>> the open issues (RORE - Release often, release early).
>>
>> WDYAT?
> 
> +1

+1 - The 1.3 runtime incompatibility recently reported should be a 
blocker though (not sure if it's in bugzilla or not).  Still, I'd say it 
could be fixed by then.

Geoff


Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
On 30 Jan 2004, at 05:40, Joerg Heinicke wrote:

> On 30.01.2004 10:54, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>> What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)
>> There are some open issues from our "management" list:
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25320
>
> This one that is about the next release looks much better :)
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25321
>
>> And next friday is our first "first friday" for this year. So I
>> would propose to start the code freeze right after the "first friday"
>> and release one week later.
>> Now, I'm not really superstitious but as I don't want to do a release
>> on a friday, 13th and as I'm not able to do the release between
>> the 14th and the 21th of february, I propose the 12th of february
>> as the release date for 2.1.4 - regardless if we have solved all
>> the open issues (RORE - Release often, release early).
>> WDYAT?
>
> +1

+1

--
Stefano.

Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>.
On 30.01.2004 10:54, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)
> 
> There are some open issues from our "management" list:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25320

This one that is about the next release looks much better :)
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25321

> And next friday is our first "first friday" for this year. So I
> would propose to start the code freeze right after the "first friday"
> and release one week later.
> 
> Now, I'm not really superstitious but as I don't want to do a release
> on a friday, 13th and as I'm not able to do the release between
> the 14th and the 21th of february, I propose the 12th of february
> as the release date for 2.1.4 - regardless if we have solved all
> the open issues (RORE - Release often, release early).
> 
> WDYAT?

+1

Joerg

RE: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>.
> From: Upayavira [mailto:uv@upaya.co.uk]
> 
> 
> Sylvain Wallez wrote:
> 
> > Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> >
> >> What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)
> >>
> >> There are some open issues from our "management" list:
> >> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25320
> >>
> >> And next friday is our first "first friday" for this year.
> So I would
> >> propose to start the code freeze right after the "first
> friday" and
> >> release one week later.
> >>  
> >>
> >
> > +1
> 
> Big +1 (if 1.3 compatibility is okay)

+1 too if 
 - 1.3 compatibility is okay
 - and if Michael has confirmed the 
   fix for http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26186)
 - all problems with redirecting and cascading calls
   of internal pipelines in flows are solved
   (sorry for the noise of all problems are solved but
    I haven't followed the discussion very close but I consider
    it as important that everything works well)

--
Reinhard


Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
Sylvain Wallez wrote:

> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
>> What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)
>>
>> There are some open issues from our "management" list:
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25320
>>
>> And next friday is our first "first friday" for this year. So I
>> would propose to start the code freeze right after the "first friday"
>> and release one week later.
>>  
>>
>
> +1

Big +1 (if 1.3 compatibility is okay)

Regards, Upayavira



Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

>What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)
>
>There are some open issues from our "management" list:
>http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25320
>
>And next friday is our first "first friday" for this year. So I
>would propose to start the code freeze right after the "first friday"
>and release one week later.
>  
>

+1

Sylvain

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Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Tony Collen <co...@umn.edu>.
Ugo Cei wrote:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> 
>> WDYAT?
> 
> 
> +1
> 
>     Ugo
> 
> 


+1 here, too.

Tony


Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Ugo Cei <u....@cbim.it>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> WDYAT?

+1

	Ugo



Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Tony Collen <co...@umn.edu>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)
> 
> There are some open issues from our "management" list:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25320
> 
> And next friday is our first "first friday" for this year. So I
> would propose to start the code freeze right after the "first friday"
> and release one week later.
> 
> Now, I'm not really superstitious but as I don't want to do a release
> on a friday, 13th and as I'm not able to do the release between
> the 14th and the 21th of february, I propose the 12th of february
> as the release date for 2.1.4 - regardless if we have solved all
> the open issues (RORE - Release often, release early).

Dang, imagine the karma of releasing 2.1.4 on Feb 14 :)


Tony



Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Andrew Savory <an...@luminas.co.uk>.
On 30 Jan 2004, at 09:54, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:

> What do you all think about releasing 2.1.4? :)

+1. Can you also name the archives cocoon-2.1.4.tar.gz and 
cocoon-2.1.4.zip, to make it obvious what file people have downloaded?

Thanks,

Andrew.

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Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Giacomo Pati <gi...@apache.org>.

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> 
> Great, especially if you do the work :) 

Ok, I've committed the script into tools/bin/create-repository-jars.sh 
(havn't seen the commit mail poping up in my mailbox so far ??) and also 
put the 2.1.3 jars in place.

Feedback is welcome.

-- 
Giacomo Pati
Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

RE: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Giacomo Pati wrote:
>
> Giacomo Pati wrote:
> >
> >
> > Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> >
> >> But: I see a sense in putting our jars there, I'm not so sure what the
> >> use
> >> in putting also the distribution (the src) there is?
> >
> >
> > If you look at the repository structure proposed there you'll have
> > distributions directory as well (BTW: IIRC Avalon has put all their
> > dists there). It's just a (more or less) normed place to put dists at
> > (probably in respect to what Maven has proposed)
>
> After thinking a while I don't know if the mirror mechanism is up for
> these paths as well, so forget it for now.
>
Yes, this was my concern as well. I think we should just put the jars there
for now.

Carsten


Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Giacomo Pati <gi...@apache.org>.

Giacomo Pati wrote:
> 
> 
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> 
>> But: I see a sense in putting our jars there, I'm not so sure what the 
>> use
>> in putting also the distribution (the src) there is?
> 
> 
> If you look at the repository structure proposed there you'll have 
> distributions directory as well (BTW: IIRC Avalon has put all their 
> dists there). It's just a (more or less) normed place to put dists at 
> (probably in respect to what Maven has proposed)

After thinking a while I don't know if the mirror mechanism is up for 
these paths as well, so forget it for now.

-- 
Giacomo Pati
Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Giacomo Pati <gi...@apache.org>.

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> Giacomo Pati wrote:
> 
> 
>>+1 for me
>>
>>I'd also like to know your oppinions about using the new 
>>http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/... location to (maybe in 
>>addition for the 2.1.4 release) place the dist (would be 
>>/www/www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/cocoon/distributions/ on 
>>minotaur.apache.org).
>>
>>I use a script to place all the cocoon block, and the cocoon core jars 
>>as well as the  war and dist files into such repositories (yes, we use 
>>Maven for our project builds and such a remote repository comes in handy 
>>for us). What do you think about placing such jars there as well (I'd 
>>voloteer for this)?
>>
> 
> Great, especially if you do the work :) 

:)

I'll make a bin dir in the root (or should I use the tools/bin dir) to 
put the script into so everybody can have a look at it and do whatever 
they like to do with it for their personal us.

> But: I see a sense in putting our jars there, I'm not so sure what the use
> in putting also the distribution (the src) there is?

If you look at the repository structure proposed there you'll have 
distributions directory as well (BTW: IIRC Avalon has put all their 
dists there). It's just a (more or less) normed place to put dists at 
(probably in respect to what Maven has proposed)


-- 
Giacomo Pati
Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com

RE: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Giacomo Pati wrote:

> +1 for me
> 
> I'd also like to know your oppinions about using the new 
> http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/... location to (maybe in 
> addition for the 2.1.4 release) place the dist (would be 
> /www/www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/cocoon/distributions/ on 
> minotaur.apache.org).
> 
> I use a script to place all the cocoon block, and the cocoon core jars 
> as well as the  war and dist files into such repositories (yes, we use 
> Maven for our project builds and such a remote repository comes in handy 
> for us). What do you think about placing such jars there as well (I'd 
> voloteer for this)?
> 
Great, especially if you do the work :) 

But: I see a sense in putting our jars there, I'm not so sure what the use
in putting also the distribution (the src) there is?

Carsten

Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

Posted by Giacomo Pati <gi...@apache.org>.

Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> WDYAT?

+1 for me

I'd also like to know your oppinions about using the new 
http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/... location to (maybe in 
addition for the 2.1.4 release) place the dist (would be 
/www/www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/cocoon/distributions/ on 
minotaur.apache.org).

I use a script to place all the cocoon block, and the cocoon core jars 
as well as the  war and dist files into such repositories (yes, we use 
Maven for our project builds and such a remote repository comes in handy 
for us). What do you think about placing such jars there as well (I'd 
voloteer for this)?

-- 
Giacomo Pati
Otego AG, Switzerland - http://www.otego.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance - http://www.orixo.com