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Posted to general@attic.apache.org by sebb <se...@gmail.com> on 2020/03/03 14:12:15 UTC
Re: DOAP files for retired projects
On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 21:53, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
>
> Le jeudi 13 février 2020, 00:57:26 CET Mads Toftum a écrit :
> > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 03:21:04PM -0800, Hen wrote:
> > > Sounds good to me. I doubt folk are looking at the DOAP file for status
> > > instead of checking the updated site.
> >
> > Aren't these doap files used for building some of
> > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?
> projects site uses https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/projects.xml to find DOAP files
>
> > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 6:21 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It's tedious getting access to a project DOAP in order to change the
> > > > PMC to the Attic.
> > > >
> > > > One solution is to drop the DOAP from the list of projects.
> > > >
> > > > Another might be to copy the DOAP into a separate area, update that
> > > > and change projects.xml to point to the updated DOAP. This could
> > > > probably be mostly automated.
> >
> > I was having a look around the infra tools repo and found
> > infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/attic_files/
> >
> > There's a few project doap files in there but only from 2011 and 2012.
> >
> > > > The projects.xml file could retain the original location as a comment
> > > > (and so could the DOAP copy)
> > > >
> > > > The downside is that the project repo would not have the change.
> > > >
> > > > WDYT?
> +1
> we need to make it simple for us, or the job won't get done: if there are complaints later, we'll do the effort to update original DOAP file.
+1
> But I suppose nobody uses these original DOAP files, then we're currently just making our job harder "for fun"...
They are used by projects.a.o. -- unless we comment out the reference
in projects.xml.
That would solve the issue very easily, but it would hide potentially
useful information about past projects.
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/data/doaps/ looks perfect
Perhaps.
Whilst Attic is responsible for ensuring that the DOAPs get updated,
the data is used by projects.a.o.
Thus I think the override DOAPs really belong under the p.a.o umbrella, i.e.
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data
This also simplifies the update, since projects.xml can be updated at
the same time as the replacement DOAP is added.
Note that a PMC can have multiple DOAPs, so the files need the PMC
name as part of the path.
Rather than have a separate folder for each PMC, I think a simple
prefix would be sufficient, as most PMCs have a single DOAP.
The existing override file under
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/data/doaps/ will need to be moved.
I intend to get started on that soon.
> Regards,
>
> Hervé
>
> >
> > Whichever is simpler. I think the way it's currently listed on
> > projects.a.o/projects.html works pretty well with the (in the Attic) on
> > the index the Retired note on the project page.
> > If anything, I might favor using Retired instead of "in the Attic" on
> > the project list, but that's really minor.
> >
> > vh
> >
> > Mads Toftum
>
>
>
>
Re: DOAP files for retired projects
Posted by Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr>.
nice job done:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/projects-override/
thank you Sebb
Le mardi 3 mars 2020, 15:12:15 CET sebb a écrit :
> On Thu, 13 Feb 2020 at 21:53, Hervé BOUTEMY <he...@free.fr> wrote:
> > Le jeudi 13 février 2020, 00:57:26 CET Mads Toftum a écrit :
> > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 03:21:04PM -0800, Hen wrote:
> > > > Sounds good to me. I doubt folk are looking at the DOAP file for
> > > > status
> > > > instead of checking the updated site.
> > >
> > > Aren't these doap files used for building some of
> > > https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?
> >
> > projects site uses
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data/pr
> > ojects.xml to find DOAP files>
> > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 6:21 AM sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > It's tedious getting access to a project DOAP in order to change the
> > > > > PMC to the Attic.
> > > > >
> > > > > One solution is to drop the DOAP from the list of projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another might be to copy the DOAP into a separate area, update that
> > > > > and change projects.xml to point to the updated DOAP. This could
> > > > > probably be mostly automated.
> > >
> > > I was having a look around the infra tools repo and found
> > > infrastructure/site-tools/trunk/projects/attic_files/
> > >
> > > There's a few project doap files in there but only from 2011 and 2012.
> > >
> > > > > The projects.xml file could retain the original location as a
> > > > > comment
> > > > > (and so could the DOAP copy)
> > > > >
> > > > > The downside is that the project repo would not have the change.
> > > > >
> > > > > WDYT?
> >
> > +1
> > we need to make it simple for us, or the job won't get done: if there are
> > complaints later, we'll do the effort to update original DOAP file.
> +1
>
> > But I suppose nobody uses these original DOAP files, then we're currently
> > just making our job harder "for fun"...
> They are used by projects.a.o. -- unless we comment out the reference
> in projects.xml.
> That would solve the issue very easily, but it would hide potentially
> useful information about past projects.
>
> > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/data/doaps/ looks perfect
>
> Perhaps.
>
> Whilst Attic is responsible for ensuring that the DOAPs get updated,
> the data is used by projects.a.o.
>
> Thus I think the override DOAPs really belong under the p.a.o umbrella, i.e.
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/trunk/data
>
> This also simplifies the update, since projects.xml can be updated at
> the same time as the replacement DOAP is added.
>
> Note that a PMC can have multiple DOAPs, so the files need the PMC
> name as part of the path.
> Rather than have a separate folder for each PMC, I think a simple
> prefix would be sufficient, as most PMCs have a single DOAP.
>
> The existing override file under
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/data/doaps/ will need to be moved.
>
> I intend to get started on that soon.
>
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > > Whichever is simpler. I think the way it's currently listed on
> > > projects.a.o/projects.html works pretty well with the (in the Attic) on
> > > the index the Retired note on the project page.
> > > If anything, I might favor using Retired instead of "in the Attic" on
> > > the project list, but that's really minor.
> > >
> > > vh
> > >
> > > Mads Toftum