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Posted to dev@nutch.apache.org by Doug Cutting <cu...@apache.org> on 2006/04/06 21:25:50 UTC

0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

TDLN wrote:
> I mean, how do others keep uptodate with the main codeline? Do you
> advice updating everyday?

Should we make a 0.8.0 release soon?  What features are still missing 
that we'd like to get into this release?

Doug

Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Andrzej Bialecki <ab...@getopt.org>.
Dawid Weiss wrote:
>
> Could we have the clustering patch applied before the 0.8.0 release? I 
> know you're way busy with other things, Andrzej, maybe you'll forward 
> it to somebody else? It shouldn't be a difficult patch to review and 
> apply.

No problem, I will take care of it before the release.

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Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Dawid Weiss <da...@cs.put.poznan.pl>.
Could we have the clustering patch applied before the 0.8.0 release? I 
know you're way busy with other things, Andrzej, maybe you'll forward it 
to somebody else? It shouldn't be a difficult patch to review and apply.

D.

Doug Cutting wrote:
> TDLN wrote:
>> I mean, how do others keep uptodate with the main codeline? Do you
>> advice updating everyday?
> 
> Should we make a 0.8.0 release soon?  What features are still missing 
> that we'd like to get into this release?
> 
> Doug

Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Jérôme Charron <je...@gmail.com>.
> Do you guys have any additional insights / suggestions whether NUTCH-240
> and/or NUTCH-61 should be included in this release?

NUTCH-240 : I really like the idea, but for now, I agree with that is API is
still "ugly". I would like to help in the next weeks...
So for me it should not be included in the 0.8 release...

Regards

Jérôme


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Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Andrzej Bialecki <ab...@getopt.org>.
Chris Mattmann wrote:
> opinion, I recently downloaded and reviewed NUTCH-61, and really like the
> patch. +1 on my end. I haven't tried out NUTCH-240 yet, but it seems to be a
> logical extension point for Nutch to be able to plug in different scoring
> components. So, +1 from me.
>   

Thanks for looking at this.

NUTCH-240: the API has some warts, it would be nice to clean up the 
passScore* methods before committing it - but this may involve changing 
too much code that is not strictly related to this patch.

NUTCH-61: I can commit this, it's been lightly tested on a dozen or so 
cycles of a small sample of urls. However, for some settings I've seen 
cases when AdaptiveFetchPolicy would go haywire and increase 
fetchInterval to infinity or to zero. So, this is really about whether 
people want to be "blessed" with this patch whether they need it or not, 
and weed out bugs as we go, or perhaps continue waiting for some 
volunteers to test it on a larger scale / more cycles.

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Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Chris Mattmann <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
Hi Andrzej,


On 4/7/06 12:18 PM, "Andrzej Bialecki" <ab...@getopt.org> wrote:

> Do you guys have any additional insights / suggestions whether NUTCH-240
> and/or NUTCH-61 should be included in this release?

Looking at the JIRA popular issues pane for Nutch (
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NUTCH?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.
system.project:popularissues-panel), I note that NUTCH-61 is the most
popular issue right now with 7 votes. Additionally, NUTCH-240 shares the 3rd
most votes (4) with NUTCH-134. So, all in all, there are 4 issues with >= 4
votes in JIRA. Of those 4 issues, 3 of them all have attached patches in
JIRA. Would it be safe to say that the committers should focus on committing
NUTCH-61, NUTCh-240, and NUTCH-48, since these 3 issues all have attached
patch files, and then freeze it for the 0.8.0 release? As for my own
opinion, I recently downloaded and reviewed NUTCH-61, and really like the
patch. +1 on my end. I haven't tried out NUTCH-240 yet, but it seems to be a
logical extension point for Nutch to be able to plug in different scoring
components. So, +1 from me.

Cheers,
  Chris


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Data Management Systems and Technologies Group

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Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Andrzej Bialecki <ab...@getopt.org>.
Doug Cutting wrote:
> Chris Mattmann wrote:
>> +1 for a release sooner rather than later.
>
> I think this is a good plan.  There's no reason we can't do another 
> release in a month.  If it is back-compatbible we can call it 0.8.x 
> and if it's incompatible we can call it 0.9.0.
>
> I'm going to make a Hadoop 0.1.1 release today that can be included in 
> Nutch 0.8.0.  (With Hadoop we're going to aim for monthly releases, 
> with potential bugfix releases between when serious bugs are found.  
> The big bug in Hadoop 0.1.0 is 
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-117.)
>
> So we could aim for a Nutch 0.8.0 release sometime next week.  Does 
> that work for folks?

Do you guys have any additional insights / suggestions whether NUTCH-240 
and/or NUTCH-61 should be included in this release?

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Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Piotr Kosiorowski <pk...@gmail.com>.
Doug Cutting wrote:

> Piotr, would you like to make this release, or should I?
> 
I would prefer you would do it this time - I am not sure if I can find 
some time next week. I would like to do some things before release though:
1) Commit clustering patch from Dawid (I took it over from Andrzej).
2) Commit pmd stuff as optional for this release. We will make it 
required later.
3) Review tutorial - I saw some posts on user list with claims about 
errors so I would like to check it before release.
4) It would be good to go through JIRA issues before - but I am not sure 
if I will manage it.
Any comments?

Regards
Piotr

Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Chris Mattmann <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
+1


On 4/7/06 10:20 AM, "Doug Cutting" <cu...@apache.org> wrote:

> Chris Mattmann wrote:
>> +1 for a release sooner rather than later.
> 
> I think this is a good plan.  There's no reason we can't do another
> release in a month.  If it is back-compatbible we can call it 0.8.x and
> if it's incompatible we can call it 0.9.0.
> 
> I'm going to make a Hadoop 0.1.1 release today that can be included in
> Nutch 0.8.0.  (With Hadoop we're going to aim for monthly releases, with
> potential bugfix releases between when serious bugs are found.  The big
> bug in Hadoop 0.1.0 is http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-117.)
> 
> So we could aim for a Nutch 0.8.0 release sometime next week.  Does that
> work for folks?
> 
> Piotr, would you like to make this release, or should I?
> 
> Doug

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Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
Staff Member
Modeling and Data Management Systems Section (387)
Data Management Systems and Technologies Group

_________________________________________________
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Office: 171-266B                        Mailstop:  171-246
_______________________________________________________

Disclaimer:  The opinions presented within are my own and do not reflect
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Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Doug Cutting <cu...@apache.org>.
Chris Mattmann wrote:
> +1 for a release sooner rather than later.

I think this is a good plan.  There's no reason we can't do another 
release in a month.  If it is back-compatbible we can call it 0.8.x and 
if it's incompatible we can call it 0.9.0.

I'm going to make a Hadoop 0.1.1 release today that can be included in 
Nutch 0.8.0.  (With Hadoop we're going to aim for monthly releases, with 
potential bugfix releases between when serious bugs are found.  The big 
bug in Hadoop 0.1.0 is http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-117.)

So we could aim for a Nutch 0.8.0 release sometime next week.  Does that 
work for folks?

Piotr, would you like to make this release, or should I?

Doug

Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Chris Mattmann <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
+1 for a release sooner rather than later. Several interesting features
contributed since the 0.7 branch I believe are now tested and
production-worthy, at least in my environment. Hats off to the folks who
were able to split the MapReduce and NDFS into Hadoop -- I'm going to be
experimenting with that portion of the code over the next few weeks on a 16
node, 32 processor Opteron cluster at JPL that will be used as the
development machine for a large scale earth science data processing mission.
Because the Hadoop code is in its own project now, I can leverage and test
the Hadoop processing and HDFS capability without having to include all the
search engine specific stuff. Yayyyy! :-)

Cheers,
  Chris



On 4/6/06 12:59 PM, "Andrzej Bialecki" <ab...@getopt.org> wrote:

> Doug Cutting wrote:
>> TDLN wrote:
>>> I mean, how do others keep uptodate with the main codeline? Do you
>>> advice updating everyday?
>> 
>> Should we make a 0.8.0 release soon?  What features are still missing
>> that we'd like to get into this release?
> 
> I think we should make a release soon - instabilities related to Hadoop
> split are mostly gone now, and we need to endorse the new architecture
> more officially...
> 
> The "adaptive fetch" and "scoring API" functionality are the top
> priority for me. While the scoring API change is pretty innocuous, we
> just need to clean it up, the adaptive fetch changes have a big
> potential for wrecking the main re-fetch cycle ... ;)
> 
> We could do it in two ways: I could apply this patch and let people run
> with it for a while, fixing bugs as they pop up - but then it will be
> another 3-4 weeks I suppose. Or we could wait with this after the release.

______________________________________________
Chris A. Mattmann
Chris.Mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov
Staff Member
Modeling and Data Management Systems Section (387)
Data Management Systems and Technologies Group

_________________________________________________
Jet Propulsion Laboratory            Pasadena, CA
Office: 171-266B                        Mailstop:  171-246
_______________________________________________________

Disclaimer:  The opinions presented within are my own and do not reflect
those of either NASA, JPL, or the California Institute of Technology.



Re: 0.8 release schedule (was Re: latest build throws error - critical)

Posted by Andrzej Bialecki <ab...@getopt.org>.
Doug Cutting wrote:
> TDLN wrote:
>> I mean, how do others keep uptodate with the main codeline? Do you
>> advice updating everyday?
>
> Should we make a 0.8.0 release soon?  What features are still missing 
> that we'd like to get into this release?

I think we should make a release soon - instabilities related to Hadoop 
split are mostly gone now, and we need to endorse the new architecture 
more officially...

The "adaptive fetch" and "scoring API" functionality are the top 
priority for me. While the scoring API change is pretty innocuous, we 
just need to clean it up, the adaptive fetch changes have a big 
potential for wrecking the main re-fetch cycle ... ;)

We could do it in two ways: I could apply this patch and let people run 
with it for a while, fixing bugs as they pop up - but then it will be 
another 3-4 weeks I suppose. Or we could wait with this after the release.

-- 
Best regards,
Andrzej Bialecki     <><
 ___. ___ ___ ___ _ _   __________________________________
[__ || __|__/|__||\/|  Information Retrieval, Semantic Web
___|||__||  \|  ||  |  Embedded Unix, System Integration
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