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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> on 2011/09/02 13:56:17 UTC
migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
With my Infra hat on:
I'd like to highlight the below to the PPMC. Driving the maintenance or
migration of any services you require is YOUR responsibility. Infra
will provide support as required if requested, but will not be lurking
on this list and looking for tasks to fill our hands with.
Terry Ellison wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:56:12 +0100:
> We have others, such as the mail service that Dennis asked about, that
> will die sometime because of lack of resources.
Re: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Much is enumerated in the ooousers cwiki.
Now there is much to read and answer about ip questions.
Regards,
Dave
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 2, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 07:29:48 -0700:
>> It was clear to me in context that Terry was not talking about Infra,
>> but the PPMC and also ooo-dev with regard to the id@openoffice.org
>> mail services (and the use of those addresses/ids as identifiers).
>> Also, the questions, from me, are about policy decisions about how to
>> migrate/preserve the openoffice.org domains and content and so it is
>> a PPMC conversation (on ooo-dev). Input from Infra participants and
>> observers is valuable, but we were not discussing workability but
>> principles and policy, at least on my part (along with some technical
>> considerations for avoiding foreclosure of as-yet-unresolved policy
>> directions).
>>
>
> Good to hear that the discussions are happening. I don't read every
> mail on this list so I might miss some things.
>
>> Likewise, when I appealed for anyone who had knowledge and ability to
>> deal with an unfortunate echo on the French e-mail lists, I was not
>> addressing Infra. It is not happening on Apache infrastructure.
>>
>
> I understand that.
>
>> - Dennis
>>
>
> My point was simple: it is the PPMC, as opposed to Infra, who needs to
> lead the process of enumerating the services that Oracle does not wish
> to continue hosting, deciding what to do with each, and then making that
> happen. That point wasn't related to any specific thread.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d.s@daniel.shahaf.name]
>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 04:56
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
>>
>> With my Infra hat on:
>>
>> I'd like to highlight the below to the PPMC. Driving the maintenance or
>> migration of any services you require is YOUR responsibility. Infra
>> will provide support as required if requested, but will not be lurking
>> on this list and looking for tasks to fill our hands with.
>>
>> Terry Ellison wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:56:12 +0100:
>>> We have others, such as the mail service that Dennis asked about, that
>>> will die sometime because of lack of resources.
>>
RE: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Agreed.
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d.s@daniel.shahaf.name]
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 08:21
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
[ ... ]
My point was simple: it is the PPMC, as opposed to Infra, who needs to
lead the process of enumerating the services that Oracle does not wish
to continue hosting, deciding what to do with each, and then making that
happen. That point wasn't related to any specific thread.
[ ... ]
Re: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
Posted by Daniel Shahaf <d....@daniel.shahaf.name>.
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 07:29:48 -0700:
> It was clear to me in context that Terry was not talking about Infra,
> but the PPMC and also ooo-dev with regard to the id@openoffice.org
> mail services (and the use of those addresses/ids as identifiers).
> Also, the questions, from me, are about policy decisions about how to
> migrate/preserve the openoffice.org domains and content and so it is
> a PPMC conversation (on ooo-dev). Input from Infra participants and
> observers is valuable, but we were not discussing workability but
> principles and policy, at least on my part (along with some technical
> considerations for avoiding foreclosure of as-yet-unresolved policy
> directions).
>
Good to hear that the discussions are happening. I don't read every
mail on this list so I might miss some things.
> Likewise, when I appealed for anyone who had knowledge and ability to
> deal with an unfortunate echo on the French e-mail lists, I was not
> addressing Infra. It is not happening on Apache infrastructure.
>
I understand that.
> - Dennis
>
My point was simple: it is the PPMC, as opposed to Infra, who needs to
lead the process of enumerating the services that Oracle does not wish
to continue hosting, deciding what to do with each, and then making that
happen. That point wasn't related to any specific thread.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d.s@daniel.shahaf.name]
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 04:56
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
>
> With my Infra hat on:
>
> I'd like to highlight the below to the PPMC. Driving the maintenance or
> migration of any services you require is YOUR responsibility. Infra
> will provide support as required if requested, but will not be lurking
> on this list and looking for tasks to fill our hands with.
>
> Terry Ellison wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:56:12 +0100:
> > We have others, such as the mail service that Dennis asked about, that
> > will die sometime because of lack of resources.
>
RE: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
It was clear to me in context that Terry was not talking about Infra, but the PPMC and also ooo-dev with regard to the id@openoffice.org mail services (and the use of those addresses/ids as identifiers). Also, the questions, from me, are about policy decisions about how to migrate/preserve the openoffice.org domains and content and so it is a PPMC conversation (on ooo-dev). Input from Infra participants and observers is valuable, but we were not discussing workability but principles and policy, at least on my part (along with some technical considerations for avoiding foreclosure of as-yet-unresolved policy directions).
Likewise, when I appealed for anyone who had knowledge and ability to deal with an unfortunate echo on the French e-mail lists, I was not addressing Infra. It is not happening on Apache infrastructure.
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Shahaf [mailto:d.s@daniel.shahaf.name]
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 04:56
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I go
With my Infra hat on:
I'd like to highlight the below to the PPMC. Driving the maintenance or
migration of any services you require is YOUR responsibility. Infra
will provide support as required if requested, but will not be lurking
on this list and looking for tasks to fill our hands with.
Terry Ellison wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:56:12 +0100:
> We have others, such as the mail service that Dennis asked about, that
> will die sometime because of lack of resources.
Re: migration Re: I will try to finish my current tasks before I
go
Posted by Terry Ellison <Te...@ellisons.org.uk>.
Daniel, for the avoidance of doubt: this service is currently running in
Oracle infrastructure. Whilst it's there, any risk of it dying has
nothing to do with infra. I think that we realise that resourcing this
activity is a project responsibility and infrastructure will only get
involved if and when some capable project resource gets as far as
lifting the service.
Regards
Terry
On 02/09/11 12:56, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> With my Infra hat on:
>
> I'd like to highlight the below to the PPMC. Driving the maintenance or
> migration of any services you require is YOUR responsibility. Infra
> will provide support as required if requested, but will not be lurking
> on this list and looking for tasks to fill our hands with.
>
> Terry Ellison wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 09:56:12 +0100:
>> We have others, such as the mail service that Dennis asked about, that
>> will die sometime because of lack of resources.