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Posted to user@couchdb.apache.org by Ashley Parkes <as...@ashleyparkes.com> on 2014/01/22 23:46:51 UTC
Marketing suggestion
Hi! I suggest adding an official Facebook page (the existing one is automatically generated from the Wikipedia page) and a LinkedIn page for CouchDB. LinkedIn would be great for attracting business-minded users; non-relational databases are making a splash, obviously, and CouchDB has a lot of potential appeal for startups and entrepreneurial-minded people within bigger organizations. I'm happy to take on setup for either or both of these if y'all like this idea! Facebook would be easily maintained by linking it to the existing Twitter account- then no one has to worry about creating additional content. I don't think LinkedIn has this option yet, but I imagine that kind of feature is not too far in the future. Thoughts?
Regards,
Ashley
Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by "Florian Westreicher Bakk.techn." <st...@meredrica.org>.
I know from experience that the automatic Facebook postings will most likely not work well. The new Facebook algorithm wants you to spend money on posts and automatically posted stuff from Twitter gets less than one percent organic insertions into peoples' streams.
Ashley Parkes <as...@ashleyparkes.com> wrote:
>Hi! I suggest adding an official Facebook page (the existing one is
>automatically generated from the Wikipedia page) and a LinkedIn page
>for CouchDB. LinkedIn would be great for attracting business-minded
>users; non-relational databases are making a splash, obviously, and
>CouchDB has a lot of potential appeal for startups and
>entrepreneurial-minded people within bigger organizations. I'm happy to
>take on setup for either or both of these if y'all like this idea!
>Facebook would be easily maintained by linking it to the existing
>Twitter account- then no one has to worry about creating additional
>content. I don't think LinkedIn has this option yet, but I imagine that
>kind of feature is not too far in the future. Thoughts?
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Ashley
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Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
On 22 January 2014 23:46, Ashley Parkes <as...@ashleyparkes.com> wrote:
> Hi! I suggest adding an official Facebook page (the existing one is
> automatically generated from the Wikipedia page) and a LinkedIn page for
> CouchDB. LinkedIn would be great for attracting business-minded users;
> non-relational databases are making a splash, obviously, and CouchDB has a
> lot of potential appeal for startups and entrepreneurial-minded people
> within bigger organizations. I'm happy to take on setup for either or both
> of these if y'all like this idea! Facebook would be easily maintained by
> linking it to the existing Twitter account- then no one has to worry about
> creating additional content. I don't think LinkedIn has this option yet,
> but I imagine that kind of feature is not too far in the future. Thoughts?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ashley
Ashley,
thanks for reposting the email :). I am looking forward to hear thoughts
from others :)
I am basically +1 with your suggestions !!!
Cheers
Andy
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Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
On 5 February 2014 00:25, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>
> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
>
+1 Go Go Go Benjamin :)
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Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
cool !!! :)
On 10 February 2014 17:48, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
> On 2/4/14, 6:25 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>
>> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>>
>> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
>>
>
> Totally missed this email. :-P Which wiki page were you wanting me to add
> myself to? :)
>
> I'll start pwning the LinkedIn Groups with CouchDB news. Now that the
> marketing@ list is together, I think we've got a good way to route all
> that.
>
> Onward! :)
>
>
>
>> On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8
>>>>> about
>>>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable
>>>>> ratio
>>>>> to me.
>>>>>
>>>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>>>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>>>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>>>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company"
>>>> by
>>>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>>>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>>>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but
>>>> it's
>>>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>>>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+
>>>> group. A
>>>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology
>>>> than
>>>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>>>
>>> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB
>>> one
>>> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>>>
>>> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
>>> members)
>>>
>>> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an
>>> interest/voice
>>> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>>>
>>> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I
>>> do
>>> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've
>>> got
>>> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>>>
>>> --Jens
>>>>
>>>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com>.
Done and done.
Also added the CouchDB Pros to that list.
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164
On 2/10/14, 4:06 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> This one:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Marketing
>
> I am currently in talks with LinkedIn to get control of the CouchDB group.
>
> On 10 February 2014 17:48, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>> On 2/4/14, 6:25 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>>>
>>> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
>>
>> Totally missed this email. :-P Which wiki page were you wanting me to add
>> myself to? :)
>>
>> I'll start pwning the LinkedIn Groups with CouchDB news. Now that the
>> marketing@ list is together, I think we've got a good way to route all that.
>>
>> Onward! :)
>>
>>
>>> On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>>>> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable
>>>>>> ratio
>>>>>> to me.
>>>>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>>>>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>>>>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>>>>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company"
>>>>> by
>>>>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>>>>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>>>>
>>>>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>>>>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but
>>>>> it's
>>>>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>>>>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+
>>>>> group. A
>>>>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology
>>>>> than
>>>>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>>>>
>>>> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB
>>>> one
>>>> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>>>>
>>>> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
>>>> members)
>>>>
>>>> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an
>>>> interest/voice
>>>> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>>>>
>>>> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I
>>>> do
>>>> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've
>>>> got
>>>> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>>>>
>>>>> --Jens
>>>>>
>>>>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
This one:
http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/Marketing
I am currently in talks with LinkedIn to get control of the CouchDB group.
On 10 February 2014 17:48, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
> On 2/4/14, 6:25 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
>>
>> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>>
>> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
>
>
> Totally missed this email. :-P Which wiki page were you wanting me to add
> myself to? :)
>
> I'll start pwning the LinkedIn Groups with CouchDB news. Now that the
> marketing@ list is together, I think we've got a good way to route all that.
>
> Onward! :)
>
>
>>
>> On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8
>>>>> about
>>>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable
>>>>> ratio
>>>>> to me.
>>>>
>>>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>>>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>>>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>>>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company"
>>>> by
>>>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>>>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>>>
>>>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>>>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but
>>>> it's
>>>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>>>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+
>>>> group. A
>>>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology
>>>> than
>>>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>>>
>>> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB
>>> one
>>> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>>>
>>> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
>>> members)
>>>
>>> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an
>>> interest/voice
>>> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>>>
>>> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I
>>> do
>>> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've
>>> got
>>> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>>>
>>>> --Jens
>>>>
>>>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com>.
On 2/4/14, 6:25 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
> You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
>
> Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
Totally missed this email. :-P Which wiki page were you wanting me to
add myself to? :)
I'll start pwning the LinkedIn Groups with CouchDB news. Now that the
marketing@ list is together, I think we've got a good way to route all that.
Onward! :)
>
> On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about
>>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio
>>>> to me.
>>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company" by
>>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>>
>>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but it's
>>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+ group. A
>>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology than
>>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>>
>> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>>
>> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB one
>> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>>
>> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
>> members)
>>
>> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an interest/voice
>> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>>
>> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I do
>> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've got
>> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>>
>>> --Jens
>>>
>>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>>
>
>
Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
You interested in joining the marketing team and helping out Benjamin? :)
Add yourself to that wiki page! Woop!
On 4 February 2014 16:12, Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com> wrote:
>
> On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about
>>> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio
>>> to me.
>>
>> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by
>> 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on
>> Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am
>> offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company" by
>> Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual
>> relevant posts, but they're months old.
>>
>> LinkedIn is a job-networking site -- I can see it's useful to have a tag
>> there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but it's
>> beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too
>> many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+ group. A
>> forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology than
>> not having one at all, IMHO.
>
>
> Agreed on the empty forum thing...
>
> There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB one
> got quite spammy (as mentioned):
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
>
> And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
> members)
>
> Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an interest/voice
> and promoting CouchDB as something we use is good/best/awesome.
>
> I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I do
> think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as we've got
> the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>
>>
>> --Jens
>>
>> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
>
>
--
Noah Slater
https://twitter.com/nslater
Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com>.
On 1/22/14, 7:38 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
> On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
>
>> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio to me.
> That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company" by Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual relevant posts, but they're months old.
>
> LinkedIn is a job-networking site — I can see it's useful to have a tag there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but it's beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+ group. A forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology than not having one at all, IMHO.
Agreed on the empty forum thing...
There's also CouchDB Pros by @dch--which he started because the CouchDB
one got quite spammy (as mentioned):
http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4547164 (64 members)
And NoSQL Document Databases by Nuno Job:
http://www.linkedin.com/groups/NoSQL-Document-Databases-2991253 (294
members)
Likely just showing up in the places where each of us has an
interest/voice and promoting CouchDB as something we use is
good/best/awesome.
I do like that @couchdb on Twitter has it's own first person voice and I
do think continuing that in the other venues makes sense--as long as
we've got the interested hands to do the typing. :)
>
> —Jens
>
> * http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Jens Alfke <je...@couchbase.com>.
On Jan 22, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio to me.
That's weird. When I go to that page* I see 11 (eleven!) spam posts by 'Tahniyat Kazmi' about topics like "the secrets to engaging readers on Twitter", "Five texts you should never send", etc. Below that is "I am offering FREE virtual servers to help kick-start my new cloud company" by Daniele Testa (not spam, but OT). Then finally there are some actual relevant posts, but they're months old.
LinkedIn is a job-networking site — I can see it's useful to have a tag there for CouchDB so people can register their interest/knowledge, but it's beyond me why people would want to discuss it there. We already have too many actually-relevant places to discuss it, like here, SO, the G+ group. A forum that looks abandoned sends a worse message about the technology than not having one at all, IMHO.
—Jens
* http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2006181&goback=%2Egmr_2006181
Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
On 23 January 2014 00:23, Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com> wrote:
> Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about
> CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio
> to me. The problem is fairly minimal participation.
I had a look and have the same feeling. Promoting this group and other
social media sources is a task we should keep in mind and put it on our
Marketing TODO-List. Afaik, Ashely is interested in maintaining some of
these social media platforms. Ashely? :)
> On 22 Jan 2014, at 23:13, Jens Alfke <je...@couchbase.com> wrote:
>
> > There's already a LinkedIn group for CouchDB:
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2006181&trk=anet_ug_hm
> > I was a member briefly, but most of the traffic is spam (as you can see
> if you look at the most recent posts) or off-topic posts about other NoSQL
> databases, so I unsubscribed.
> >
> > Are you talking about a different kind of page?
> >
> > —Jens
>
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Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Simon Metson <si...@cloudant.com>.
Most recent posts are 1 post about Riak and 1 about Couchbase vs 8 about CouchDB, related tooling or community events seems like a reasonable ratio to me. The problem is fairly minimal participation.
On 22 Jan 2014, at 23:13, Jens Alfke <je...@couchbase.com> wrote:
> There's already a LinkedIn group for CouchDB: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2006181&trk=anet_ug_hm
> I was a member briefly, but most of the traffic is spam (as you can see if you look at the most recent posts) or off-topic posts about other NoSQL databases, so I unsubscribed.
>
> Are you talking about a different kind of page?
>
> —Jens
Re: Marketing suggestion
Posted by Jens Alfke <je...@couchbase.com>.
There's already a LinkedIn group for CouchDB: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=2006181&trk=anet_ug_hm
I was a member briefly, but most of the traffic is spam (as you can see if you look at the most recent posts) or off-topic posts about other NoSQL databases, so I unsubscribed.
Are you talking about a different kind of page?
—Jens