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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com> on 2022/12/14 09:07:46 UTC
[DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
RE: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Paul Angus <pa...@angus.uk.com.INVALID>.
Thank you for confirming what I said about the ASFs requirements around mailing lists.
However, having primary and secondary places to look for threads could make it harder for users to find answers to questions that have been asked before; so I'm asking that this issue be considered fully so that we can ensure that we support users as best we can.
Kind Regards
Paul Angus
-----Original Message-----
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:16 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Update, tl;dr - ASF infra has allowed the use of Github Discussions only for user queries and not development and this is because they don't have two-way mirroring of the same enabled on mailing lists (yet). This is also not enabled/controlled via asf yaml yet and must be requested once project consesus is reached (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-GitHubDiscussions).
My understanding (based on interactions with ASF infra) is that mailing lists are recognised medium to be used by ASF projects for development [1], and users mailing lists exist for users as primary support channels but not mandatory. This is also why ASF infra is allowing Github Discussions for only user queries - they wouldn't enable something for a project that isn't ASF compliant.
I think it could be a good idea to try Github Discussions as means of providing support, one specific thing I like about Github Discussions is the classification of user queries as Q&A, for example:
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions/categories/q-a
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions/categories/q-a-help
[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
Regards.
________________________________
From: Paul Angus <pa...@angus.uk.com.INVALID>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2022 18:45
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
If this makes discussions more accessible, it could be a good thing.
However, as mentioned by Daniel and Nux, unless there is a two-way mirror of discussions on mailing lists and Github discussions, it's going to split everyone's attention, or double where anyone has to look for answers.
Mailing lists are the only medium recognised by the ASF, so any 'official' conversations must be had on, or replicated to, the mailing lists. The stats gathered by the ASF are also based on mailing list activity.
I think these guardrails need to be in place first before trying.
Alternatively, if the issue is simply that questions are popping up in Github that shouldn't really be there. Then it would be much simpler to educate people and just point them to the mailing list whenever it happens.
Paul.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Jumani <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 3:21 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Sounds like a good idea
+1 for giving it a try!
________________________________
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 2:37 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
RE: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Paul Angus <pa...@angus.uk.com.INVALID>.
Thank you for confirming what I said about the ASFs requirements around mailing lists.
However, having primary and secondary places to look for threads could make it harder for users to find answers to questions that have been asked before; so I'm asking that this issue be considered fully so that we can ensure that we support users as best we can.
Kind Regards
Paul Angus
-----Original Message-----
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2022 4:16 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Update, tl;dr - ASF infra has allowed the use of Github Discussions only for user queries and not development and this is because they don't have two-way mirroring of the same enabled on mailing lists (yet). This is also not enabled/controlled via asf yaml yet and must be requested once project consesus is reached (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-GitHubDiscussions).
My understanding (based on interactions with ASF infra) is that mailing lists are recognised medium to be used by ASF projects for development [1], and users mailing lists exist for users as primary support channels but not mandatory. This is also why ASF infra is allowing Github Discussions for only user queries - they wouldn't enable something for a project that isn't ASF compliant.
I think it could be a good idea to try Github Discussions as means of providing support, one specific thing I like about Github Discussions is the classification of user queries as Q&A, for example:
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions/categories/q-a
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions/categories/q-a-help
[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
Regards.
________________________________
From: Paul Angus <pa...@angus.uk.com.INVALID>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2022 18:45
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
If this makes discussions more accessible, it could be a good thing.
However, as mentioned by Daniel and Nux, unless there is a two-way mirror of discussions on mailing lists and Github discussions, it's going to split everyone's attention, or double where anyone has to look for answers.
Mailing lists are the only medium recognised by the ASF, so any 'official' conversations must be had on, or replicated to, the mailing lists. The stats gathered by the ASF are also based on mailing list activity.
I think these guardrails need to be in place first before trying.
Alternatively, if the issue is simply that questions are popping up in Github that shouldn't really be there. Then it would be much simpler to educate people and just point them to the mailing list whenever it happens.
Paul.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Jumani <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 3:21 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Sounds like a good idea
+1 for giving it a try!
________________________________
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 2:37 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>.
Update, tl;dr - ASF infra has allowed the use of Github Discussions only for user queries and not development and this is because they don't have two-way mirroring of the same enabled on mailing lists (yet). This is also not enabled/controlled via asf yaml yet and must be requested once project consesus is reached (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-GitHubDiscussions).
My understanding (based on interactions with ASF infra) is that mailing lists are recognised medium to be used by ASF projects for development [1], and users mailing lists exist for users as primary support channels but not mandatory. This is also why ASF infra is allowing Github Discussions for only user queries - they wouldn't enable something for a project that isn't ASF compliant.
I think it could be a good idea to try Github Discussions as means of providing support, one specific thing I like about Github Discussions is the classification of user queries as Q&A, for example:
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions/categories/q-a
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions/categories/q-a-help
[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
Regards.
________________________________
From: Paul Angus <pa...@angus.uk.com.INVALID>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2022 18:45
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
If this makes discussions more accessible, it could be a good thing.
However, as mentioned by Daniel and Nux, unless there is a two-way mirror of discussions on mailing lists and Github discussions, it's going to split everyone's attention, or double where anyone has to look for answers.
Mailing lists are the only medium recognised by the ASF, so any 'official' conversations must be had on, or replicated to, the mailing lists. The stats gathered by the ASF are also based on mailing list activity.
I think these guardrails need to be in place first before trying.
Alternatively, if the issue is simply that questions are popping up in Github that shouldn't really be there. Then it would be much simpler to educate people and just point them to the mailing list whenever it happens.
Paul.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Jumani <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 3:21 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Sounds like a good idea
+1 for giving it a try!
________________________________
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 2:37 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>.
Update, tl;dr - ASF infra has allowed the use of Github Discussions only for user queries and not development and this is because they don't have two-way mirroring of the same enabled on mailing lists (yet). This is also not enabled/controlled via asf yaml yet and must be requested once project consesus is reached (https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features#Git.asf.yamlfeatures-GitHubDiscussions).
My understanding (based on interactions with ASF infra) is that mailing lists are recognised medium to be used by ASF projects for development [1], and users mailing lists exist for users as primary support channels but not mandatory. This is also why ASF infra is allowing Github Discussions for only user queries - they wouldn't enable something for a project that isn't ASF compliant.
I think it could be a good idea to try Github Discussions as means of providing support, one specific thing I like about Github Discussions is the classification of user queries as Q&A, for example:
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions/categories/q-a
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions/categories/q-a-help
[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html
Regards.
________________________________
From: Paul Angus <pa...@angus.uk.com.INVALID>
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2022 18:45
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
If this makes discussions more accessible, it could be a good thing.
However, as mentioned by Daniel and Nux, unless there is a two-way mirror of discussions on mailing lists and Github discussions, it's going to split everyone's attention, or double where anyone has to look for answers.
Mailing lists are the only medium recognised by the ASF, so any 'official' conversations must be had on, or replicated to, the mailing lists. The stats gathered by the ASF are also based on mailing list activity.
I think these guardrails need to be in place first before trying.
Alternatively, if the issue is simply that questions are popping up in Github that shouldn't really be there. Then it would be much simpler to educate people and just point them to the mailing list whenever it happens.
Paul.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Jumani <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 3:21 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Sounds like a good idea
+1 for giving it a try!
________________________________
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 2:37 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
RE: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Paul Angus <pa...@angus.uk.com.INVALID>.
If this makes discussions more accessible, it could be a good thing.
However, as mentioned by Daniel and Nux, unless there is a two-way mirror of discussions on mailing lists and Github discussions, it's going to split everyone's attention, or double where anyone has to look for answers.
Mailing lists are the only medium recognised by the ASF, so any 'official' conversations must be had on, or replicated to, the mailing lists. The stats gathered by the ASF are also based on mailing list activity.
I think these guardrails need to be in place first before trying.
Alternatively, if the issue is simply that questions are popping up in Github that shouldn't really be there. Then it would be much simpler to educate people and just point them to the mailing list whenever it happens.
Paul.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Jumani <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 3:21 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Sounds like a good idea
+1 for giving it a try!
________________________________
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 2:37 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
RE: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Paul Angus <pa...@angus.uk.com.INVALID>.
If this makes discussions more accessible, it could be a good thing.
However, as mentioned by Daniel and Nux, unless there is a two-way mirror of discussions on mailing lists and Github discussions, it's going to split everyone's attention, or double where anyone has to look for answers.
Mailing lists are the only medium recognised by the ASF, so any 'official' conversations must be had on, or replicated to, the mailing lists. The stats gathered by the ASF are also based on mailing list activity.
I think these guardrails need to be in place first before trying.
Alternatively, if the issue is simply that questions are popping up in Github that shouldn't really be there. Then it would be much simpler to educate people and just point them to the mailing list whenever it happens.
Paul.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Jumani <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 3:21 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org; users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Sounds like a good idea
+1 for giving it a try!
________________________________
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 2:37 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by David Jumani <Da...@shapeblue.com>.
Sounds like a good idea
+1 for giving it a try!
________________________________
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 2:37 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>.
I don't know if the Github Discussions messages/comments are sent to mailing lists. I can ask this with ASF infra, how other projects have the Github Discussions feature integrated and get back to you all.
In my limited understanding, this will be in addition to the mailing list (I'm not suggesting we stop using mailing lists).
Regards.
________________________________
From: Nux <nu...@li.nux.ro>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 19:26
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Cc: Daniel Augusto Veronezi Salvador <dv...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
That's a good point, it'd be nice if there was a possibility to use the
"discussions" integrated in the mailing lists.
---
Nux
www.nux.ro
On 2022-12-14 12:22, Daniel Augusto Veronezi Salvador wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> The feature GitHub Discussions seems very interesting; I think it
> worth enabling it and trying it (+1).
>
> I just have one doubt: would we forward Discussions' updates to the
> mailing lists?
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel Salvador (gutoveronezi)
>
> On 14/12/2022 06:07, Rohit Yadav wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as
>> it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community
>> to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We
>> later organically started using Github for release
>> milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as
>> cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use
>> the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github
>> actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
>>
>> Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we
>> would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues,
>> which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we
>> explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
>>
>> Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for
>> example:
>> https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/features/discussions
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Nux <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
That's a good point, it'd be nice if there was a possibility to use the
"discussions" integrated in the mailing lists.
---
Nux
www.nux.ro
On 2022-12-14 12:22, Daniel Augusto Veronezi Salvador wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> The feature GitHub Discussions seems very interesting; I think it
> worth enabling it and trying it (+1).
>
> I just have one doubt: would we forward Discussions' updates to the
> mailing lists?
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel Salvador (gutoveronezi)
>
> On 14/12/2022 06:07, Rohit Yadav wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as
>> it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community
>> to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We
>> later organically started using Github for release
>> milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as
>> cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use
>> the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github
>> actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
>>
>> Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we
>> would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues,
>> which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we
>> explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
>>
>> Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for
>> example:
>> https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
>> https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/features/discussions
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Daniel Augusto Veronezi Salvador <dv...@gmail.com>.
Hello all,
The feature GitHub Discussions seems very interesting; I think it worth
enabling it and trying it (+1).
I just have one doubt: would we forward Discussions' updates to the
mailing lists?
Best regards,
Daniel Salvador (gutoveronezi)
On 14/12/2022 06:07, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> All,
>
> In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
>
> Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
>
> Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
> https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
>
> [1] https://github.com/features/discussions
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Nicolas Vazquez <Ni...@shapeblue.com>.
+1
Regards,
Nicolas Vazquez
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Date: Wednesday, 14 December 2022 at 06:08
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>, users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Ivet Petrova <iv...@shapeblue.com>.
Hi Rohit,
Will this be instead the mailing lists? Or an addition to them?
Kind regards,
On 14 Dec 2022, at 11:07, Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Nicolas Vazquez <Ni...@shapeblue.com>.
+1
Regards,
Nicolas Vazquez
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Date: Wednesday, 14 December 2022 at 06:08
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>, users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by David Jumani <Da...@shapeblue.com>.
Sounds like a good idea
+1 for giving it a try!
________________________________
From: Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2022 2:37 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org <de...@cloudstack.apache.org>; users@cloudstack.apache.org <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Wei ZHOU <us...@gmail.com>.
+1
good idea.
-Wei
On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 at 10:08, Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it
> provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to
> collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later
> organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently
> projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey,
> cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More
> recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF
> infra.
>
> Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would
> have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which
> aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore,
> enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
>
> Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
> https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
>
> [1] https://github.com/features/discussions
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Wei ZHOU <us...@gmail.com>.
+1
good idea.
-Wei
On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 at 10:08, Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it
> provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to
> collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later
> organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently
> projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey,
> cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More
> recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF
> infra.
>
> Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would
> have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which
> aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore,
> enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
>
> Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
> https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
> https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
>
> [1] https://github.com/features/discussions
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Github Discussions for CloudStack?
Posted by Ivet Petrova <iv...@shapeblue.com>.
Hi Rohit,
Will this be instead the mailing lists? Or an addition to them?
Kind regards,
On 14 Dec 2022, at 11:07, Rohit Yadav <ro...@shapeblue.com>> wrote:
All,
In the past, we had moved away from JIRA and ReviewBoard to Github as it provided a single platform for both the user and the dev community to collaborate on issues/requests and code changes (pull requests). We later organically started using Github for release milestones/triaging, recently projects. For sub-projects such as cloudstack-cloudmonkey, cloudstack-terraform-provider etc we also use the wiki features. More recently we're not advised to move to Github actions from Travis CI by ASF infra.
Off lately, several user-related discussions and questions that we would have expected on the users ML are finding ways in Github issues, which aren't issues per se but questions, and discussions. Should we explore, enable and try Github Discussions [1] for CloudStack repos?
Several Apache projects have enabled Github Discussions [1], for example:
https://github.com/apache/couchdb/discussions
https://github.com/apache/apisix/discussions
https://github.com/apache/shardingsphere/discussions
https://github.com/apache/streampipes/discussions
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/discussions
https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions
https://github.com/apache/dolphinscheduler/discussions
https://github.com/apache/inlong/discussions
https://github.com/apache/doris/discussions
https://github.com/apache/arrow-datafusion/discussions
https://github.com/apache/superset/discussions
[1] https://github.com/features/discussions
Regards.