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Posted to users@tapestry.apache.org by Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> on 2007/01/31 20:37:18 UTC

Tapestry 3.x DEAD

Howard,
It appears that development on 3.x has stalled to a complete stop.  The web-site lists the latest 3.x release as 3.0.4.  According to the "news" it says 3.0.4 has hundreds of bug fixes.  What it doesn't show is that 3.0.4 has a threading issue. The issue was identified over two months ago.  The 3.0.4 is not on any of the mirrors, I guess because of the bug.

All-in-all, it appears that not only is 3.x dead but there is a "bad" version sitting out there mis-leading potential users.  Unless someone is going to pick up 3.x, the web site should be reverted back to 3.0.3.  Then 3.0.4 and 3.0.5 should be deleted and all JIRA issues reflecting the fixes that were done should be re-listed as outstanding.  Those "fixes" which happened in 3.0.4 are still a problem for anyone using 3.0.3 but JIRA says they were fixed.

The web site might as well show that 3.x is dead and tell everyone that it will no longer be maintained.

Mark

Mark J. Stang
Senior Engineer/Architect
office: +1 303.468.2900
mobile: +1 303.507.2833
Ping Identity



-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Stang
Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 11:33 PM
To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
Subject: RE: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
 
Nick,
Thanks for pointing that out, I finally found the e-mail trail.  I decided that I couldn't take a chance on 3.0.4 and reverted back to 3.0.3.  I guess we are done with 3.x and will wait for 5.x or the next great GUI Framework.  Tapestry has been fun and very interesting.

regards,

Mark

Mark J. Stang
Senior Engineer/Architect
office: +1 303.468.2900
mobile: +1 303.507.2833
Ping Identity



-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Westgate [mailto:nick@key-planning.co.jp]
Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 8:10 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
 
Hi Mark.

I'm referring to this thread:
"3.0.4 and repetitive method name/signature problem (class enhancement)"
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/43121

Take it to the dev list when you've read that.
(I'm not a dev, so as to who is managing 3 now ...)

Cheers,
Nick.


Mark Stang wrote:
> Nick,
> I did a quick look and only saw references to 4.x.  If 3.0.4 is not the current release, then why does the Tapestry Web site have it listed as such?
> 
> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry3/
> 
> Who is managing this?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Mark

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Re: Tapestry 3.x DEAD

Posted by Jeff Poetker <je...@gmail.com>.
To anybody whom it may concern...

The threading problem referred to in this thread, can be worked  
around by overriding the AbstractEngine's protected  
createComponentClassEnhancer method to return a synchronized version  
of the enhancer. This makes 3.0.4 work like earlier versions of  
Tapestry as far as we can tell.

Of course, you shouldn't *have* to do this.

Below is some code:

In your custom engine:
     protected IComponentClassEnhancer createComponentClassEnhancer 
(RequestContext context)
     {
         boolean disableValidation =
             "true".equals(
                     this._propertySource.getPropertyValue(
                     "org.apache.tapestry.enhance.disable-abstract- 
method-validation"));

         return new SynchronizedComponentClassEnhancer 
(this._resolver, disableValidation);
     }


And a new class:

public class SynchronizedComponentClassEnhancer extends  
DefaultComponentClassEnhancer {

     public SynchronizedComponentClassEnhancer(IResourceResolver  
resolver, boolean disableValidation) {
         super(resolver, disableValidation);
     }

     /**
      * Returns the Class, in a synchronized manner.
      *
      * @see  
org.apache.tapestry.enhance.DefaultComponentClassEnhancer#getEnhancedCla 
ss(org.apache.tapestry.spec.IComponentSpecification, java.lang.String)
      */
     public synchronized Class getEnhancedClass 
(IComponentSpecification specification, String className)
     {
         Class result = getCachedClass(specification);

         if (result == null) {
             result = constructComponentClass(specification, className);
             storeCachedClass(specification, result);
         }

         return result;
     }

     /**
      * Returns a Synchronized implemenation of IEnhancedClassFactory
      *
      * @see  
org.apache.tapestry.enhance.DefaultComponentClassEnhancer#createEnhanced 
ClassFactory()
      */
     protected IEnhancedClassFactory createEnhancedClassFactory()
     {
         return new SynchronizedEnhancedClassFactory 
(getResourceResolver());
     }

}




On Jan 31, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Mark Stang wrote:

> Howard,
> It appears that development on 3.x has stalled to a complete stop.   
> The web-site lists the latest 3.x release as 3.0.4.  According to  
> the "news" it says 3.0.4 has hundreds of bug fixes.  What it  
> doesn't show is that 3.0.4 has a threading issue. The issue was  
> identified over two months ago.  The 3.0.4 is not on any of the  
> mirrors, I guess because of the bug.
>
> All-in-all, it appears that not only is 3.x dead but there is a  
> "bad" version sitting out there mis-leading potential users.   
> Unless someone is going to pick up 3.x, the web site should be  
> reverted back to 3.0.3.  Then 3.0.4 and 3.0.5 should be deleted and  
> all JIRA issues reflecting the fixes that were done should be re- 
> listed as outstanding.  Those "fixes" which happened in 3.0.4 are  
> still a problem for anyone using 3.0.3 but JIRA says they were fixed.
>
> The web site might as well show that 3.x is dead and tell everyone  
> that it will no longer be maintained.
>
> Mark
>
> Mark J. Stang
> Senior Engineer/Architect
> office: +1 303.468.2900
> mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> Ping Identity
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stang
> Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 11:33 PM
> To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
> Subject: RE: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
>
> Nick,
> Thanks for pointing that out, I finally found the e-mail trail.  I  
> decided that I couldn't take a chance on 3.0.4 and reverted back to  
> 3.0.3.  I guess we are done with 3.x and will wait for 5.x or the  
> next great GUI Framework.  Tapestry has been fun and very interesting.
>
> regards,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark J. Stang
> Senior Engineer/Architect
> office: +1 303.468.2900
> mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> Ping Identity
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Westgate [mailto:nick@key-planning.co.jp]
> Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 8:10 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
>
> Hi Mark.
>
> I'm referring to this thread:
> "3.0.4 and repetitive method name/signature problem (class  
> enhancement)"
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/43121
>
> Take it to the dev list when you've read that.
> (I'm not a dev, so as to who is managing 3 now ...)
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
>
> Mark Stang wrote:
>> Nick,
>> I did a quick look and only saw references to 4.x.  If 3.0.4 is  
>> not the current release, then why does the Tapestry Web site have  
>> it listed as such?
>>
>> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry3/
>>
>> Who is managing this?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Mark
>
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RE: Tapestry 3.x DEAD

Posted by Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>.
Jesse,
In other words, 3.0.4 has a fairly significant bug and nobody is maintaining it.  So, at the very least someone should update the Tapestry 3 website with a WARNING that 3.0.4 has a threading bug.  Of course, 3.0.3 has a bunch of bugs that were fixed in 3.0.4 so someone should annotate the website with a WARNING that 3.0.3 has many bugs.  

Which sounds like to me, that 3.X is DEAD and no longer being maintained.

So, let's have a wake, toss back a few and tell everyone to move onto 4.x which is the only version being maintained at this time.

thanks,

Mark

Mark J. Stang
Senior Engineer/Architect
office: +1 303.468.2900
mobile: +1 303.507.2833
Ping Identity



-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:jkuhnert@gmail.com]
Sent: Wed 1/31/2007 2:13 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: Tapestry 3.x DEAD
 
I don't remember the details surrounding the 3.0.4 release but don't
think mirrors having / not having them have anything to do with anyone
thinking it was fully / not fully released.

Really "released" just means the core downloads && website are done. I
don't think the 3.0.4 website was updated because the forrest
documentation runtime wasn't playing very well, but the actual jars
were.

After looking at the thread I do recognize that section of code and
can say with confidence that it ~has~ been fully fixed in >= 4.1.1
versions.

Opening the old project up / using the ant definitions is a real PITA,
but if you felt strongly enough about it I suppose you could always
make a patch and file it in JIRA.

The ultimate fix was achieved in the DisableCachingFilter (for 4.x at
least), instead of the ComponentClass enhancer. The synchronized
blocks can probably be taken out. (or replaced with more thread
efficient backport-util counterparts - unless you are using more
recent jres in production where it looks like the old synchronized
speed issues have potentially been fixed)

On 1/31/07, Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
> Jesse,
> I don't think the dynamic url stuff is the issue.  Actually, there are two issues.  The first issue is the threading bug.  The next issue is that 3.0.4 was never fully released, as I understand it, due to the threading bug.  Which is why it isn't on the mirrors.  It is supposed to be "released", but it looks like it got half way there and then died.
>
> regards,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark J. Stang
> Senior Engineer/Architect
> office: +1 303.468.2900
> mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> Ping Identity
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:jkuhnert@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 1/31/2007 1:27 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Cc: hlship@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Tapestry 3.x DEAD
>
> I don't know what's wrong with the dynamic url stuff (I did test it
> before updating the main site), but you can always get it from:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/tapestry/
>
> On 1/31/07, Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
> > Howard,
> > It appears that development on 3.x has stalled to a complete stop.  The web-site lists the latest 3.x release as 3.0.4.  According to the "news" it says 3.0.4 has hundreds of bug fixes.  What it doesn't show is that 3.0.4 has a threading issue. The issue was identified over two months ago.  The 3.0.4 is not on any of the mirrors, I guess because of the bug.
> >
> > All-in-all, it appears that not only is 3.x dead but there is a "bad" version sitting out there mis-leading potential users.  Unless someone is going to pick up 3.x, the web site should be reverted back to 3.0.3.  Then 3.0.4 and 3.0.5 should be deleted and all JIRA issues reflecting the fixes that were done should be re-listed as outstanding.  Those "fixes" which happened in 3.0.4 are still a problem for anyone using 3.0.3 but JIRA says they were fixed.
> >
> > The web site might as well show that 3.x is dead and tell everyone that it will no longer be maintained.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark J. Stang
> > Senior Engineer/Architect
> > office: +1 303.468.2900
> > mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> > Ping Identity
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Stang
> > Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 11:33 PM
> > To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
> > Subject: RE: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
> >
> > Nick,
> > Thanks for pointing that out, I finally found the e-mail trail.  I decided that I couldn't take a chance on 3.0.4 and reverted back to 3.0.3.  I guess we are done with 3.x and will wait for 5.x or the next great GUI Framework.  Tapestry has been fun and very interesting.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark J. Stang
> > Senior Engineer/Architect
> > office: +1 303.468.2900
> > mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> > Ping Identity
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick Westgate [mailto:nick@key-planning.co.jp]
> > Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 8:10 PM
> > To: Tapestry users
> > Subject: Re: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
> >
> > Hi Mark.
> >
> > I'm referring to this thread:
> > "3.0.4 and repetitive method name/signature problem (class enhancement)"
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/43121
> >
> > Take it to the dev list when you've read that.
> > (I'm not a dev, so as to who is managing 3 now ...)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nick.
> >
> >
> > Mark Stang wrote:
> > > Nick,
> > > I did a quick look and only saw references to 4.x.  If 3.0.4 is not the current release, then why does the Tapestry Web site have it listed as such?
> > >
> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry3/
> > >
> > > Who is managing this?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark
> >
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> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-help@tapestry.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer
>
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
>
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Open source based consulting work centered around
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Re: Tapestry 3.x DEAD

Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
I don't remember the details surrounding the 3.0.4 release but don't
think mirrors having / not having them have anything to do with anyone
thinking it was fully / not fully released.

Really "released" just means the core downloads && website are done. I
don't think the 3.0.4 website was updated because the forrest
documentation runtime wasn't playing very well, but the actual jars
were.

After looking at the thread I do recognize that section of code and
can say with confidence that it ~has~ been fully fixed in >= 4.1.1
versions.

Opening the old project up / using the ant definitions is a real PITA,
but if you felt strongly enough about it I suppose you could always
make a patch and file it in JIRA.

The ultimate fix was achieved in the DisableCachingFilter (for 4.x at
least), instead of the ComponentClass enhancer. The synchronized
blocks can probably be taken out. (or replaced with more thread
efficient backport-util counterparts - unless you are using more
recent jres in production where it looks like the old synchronized
speed issues have potentially been fixed)

On 1/31/07, Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
> Jesse,
> I don't think the dynamic url stuff is the issue.  Actually, there are two issues.  The first issue is the threading bug.  The next issue is that 3.0.4 was never fully released, as I understand it, due to the threading bug.  Which is why it isn't on the mirrors.  It is supposed to be "released", but it looks like it got half way there and then died.
>
> regards,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark J. Stang
> Senior Engineer/Architect
> office: +1 303.468.2900
> mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> Ping Identity
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:jkuhnert@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 1/31/2007 1:27 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Cc: hlship@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Tapestry 3.x DEAD
>
> I don't know what's wrong with the dynamic url stuff (I did test it
> before updating the main site), but you can always get it from:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/tapestry/
>
> On 1/31/07, Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
> > Howard,
> > It appears that development on 3.x has stalled to a complete stop.  The web-site lists the latest 3.x release as 3.0.4.  According to the "news" it says 3.0.4 has hundreds of bug fixes.  What it doesn't show is that 3.0.4 has a threading issue. The issue was identified over two months ago.  The 3.0.4 is not on any of the mirrors, I guess because of the bug.
> >
> > All-in-all, it appears that not only is 3.x dead but there is a "bad" version sitting out there mis-leading potential users.  Unless someone is going to pick up 3.x, the web site should be reverted back to 3.0.3.  Then 3.0.4 and 3.0.5 should be deleted and all JIRA issues reflecting the fixes that were done should be re-listed as outstanding.  Those "fixes" which happened in 3.0.4 are still a problem for anyone using 3.0.3 but JIRA says they were fixed.
> >
> > The web site might as well show that 3.x is dead and tell everyone that it will no longer be maintained.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark J. Stang
> > Senior Engineer/Architect
> > office: +1 303.468.2900
> > mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> > Ping Identity
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Stang
> > Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 11:33 PM
> > To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
> > Subject: RE: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
> >
> > Nick,
> > Thanks for pointing that out, I finally found the e-mail trail.  I decided that I couldn't take a chance on 3.0.4 and reverted back to 3.0.3.  I guess we are done with 3.x and will wait for 5.x or the next great GUI Framework.  Tapestry has been fun and very interesting.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > Mark J. Stang
> > Senior Engineer/Architect
> > office: +1 303.468.2900
> > mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> > Ping Identity
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nick Westgate [mailto:nick@key-planning.co.jp]
> > Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 8:10 PM
> > To: Tapestry users
> > Subject: Re: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
> >
> > Hi Mark.
> >
> > I'm referring to this thread:
> > "3.0.4 and repetitive method name/signature problem (class enhancement)"
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/43121
> >
> > Take it to the dev list when you've read that.
> > (I'm not a dev, so as to who is managing 3 now ...)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Nick.
> >
> >
> > Mark Stang wrote:
> > > Nick,
> > > I did a quick look and only saw references to 4.x.  If 3.0.4 is not the current release, then why does the Tapestry Web site have it listed as such?
> > >
> > > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry3/
> > >
> > > Who is managing this?
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > Mark
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Jesse Kuhnert
> Tapestry/Dojo team member/developer
>
> Open source based consulting work centered around
> dojo/tapestry/tacos/hivemind. http://blog.opencomponentry.com
>
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RE: Tapestry 3.x DEAD

Posted by Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com>.
Jesse,
I don't think the dynamic url stuff is the issue.  Actually, there are two issues.  The first issue is the threading bug.  The next issue is that 3.0.4 was never fully released, as I understand it, due to the threading bug.  Which is why it isn't on the mirrors.  It is supposed to be "released", but it looks like it got half way there and then died.

regards,

Mark

Mark J. Stang
Senior Engineer/Architect
office: +1 303.468.2900
mobile: +1 303.507.2833
Ping Identity



-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Kuhnert [mailto:jkuhnert@gmail.com]
Sent: Wed 1/31/2007 1:27 PM
To: Tapestry users
Cc: hlship@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Tapestry 3.x DEAD
 
I don't know what's wrong with the dynamic url stuff (I did test it
before updating the main site), but you can always get it from:

http://www.apache.org/dist/tapestry/

On 1/31/07, Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
> Howard,
> It appears that development on 3.x has stalled to a complete stop.  The web-site lists the latest 3.x release as 3.0.4.  According to the "news" it says 3.0.4 has hundreds of bug fixes.  What it doesn't show is that 3.0.4 has a threading issue. The issue was identified over two months ago.  The 3.0.4 is not on any of the mirrors, I guess because of the bug.
>
> All-in-all, it appears that not only is 3.x dead but there is a "bad" version sitting out there mis-leading potential users.  Unless someone is going to pick up 3.x, the web site should be reverted back to 3.0.3.  Then 3.0.4 and 3.0.5 should be deleted and all JIRA issues reflecting the fixes that were done should be re-listed as outstanding.  Those "fixes" which happened in 3.0.4 are still a problem for anyone using 3.0.3 but JIRA says they were fixed.
>
> The web site might as well show that 3.x is dead and tell everyone that it will no longer be maintained.
>
> Mark
>
> Mark J. Stang
> Senior Engineer/Architect
> office: +1 303.468.2900
> mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> Ping Identity
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stang
> Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 11:33 PM
> To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
> Subject: RE: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
>
> Nick,
> Thanks for pointing that out, I finally found the e-mail trail.  I decided that I couldn't take a chance on 3.0.4 and reverted back to 3.0.3.  I guess we are done with 3.x and will wait for 5.x or the next great GUI Framework.  Tapestry has been fun and very interesting.
>
> regards,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark J. Stang
> Senior Engineer/Architect
> office: +1 303.468.2900
> mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> Ping Identity
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Westgate [mailto:nick@key-planning.co.jp]
> Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 8:10 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
>
> Hi Mark.
>
> I'm referring to this thread:
> "3.0.4 and repetitive method name/signature problem (class enhancement)"
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/43121
>
> Take it to the dev list when you've read that.
> (I'm not a dev, so as to who is managing 3 now ...)
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
>
> Mark Stang wrote:
> > Nick,
> > I did a quick look and only saw references to 4.x.  If 3.0.4 is not the current release, then why does the Tapestry Web site have it listed as such?
> >
> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry3/
> >
> > Who is managing this?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Mark
>
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Re: Tapestry 3.x DEAD

Posted by Jesse Kuhnert <jk...@gmail.com>.
I don't know what's wrong with the dynamic url stuff (I did test it
before updating the main site), but you can always get it from:

http://www.apache.org/dist/tapestry/

On 1/31/07, Mark Stang <ms...@pingidentity.com> wrote:
> Howard,
> It appears that development on 3.x has stalled to a complete stop.  The web-site lists the latest 3.x release as 3.0.4.  According to the "news" it says 3.0.4 has hundreds of bug fixes.  What it doesn't show is that 3.0.4 has a threading issue. The issue was identified over two months ago.  The 3.0.4 is not on any of the mirrors, I guess because of the bug.
>
> All-in-all, it appears that not only is 3.x dead but there is a "bad" version sitting out there mis-leading potential users.  Unless someone is going to pick up 3.x, the web site should be reverted back to 3.0.3.  Then 3.0.4 and 3.0.5 should be deleted and all JIRA issues reflecting the fixes that were done should be re-listed as outstanding.  Those "fixes" which happened in 3.0.4 are still a problem for anyone using 3.0.3 but JIRA says they were fixed.
>
> The web site might as well show that 3.x is dead and tell everyone that it will no longer be maintained.
>
> Mark
>
> Mark J. Stang
> Senior Engineer/Architect
> office: +1 303.468.2900
> mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> Ping Identity
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Stang
> Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 11:33 PM
> To: Tapestry users; Tapestry users
> Subject: RE: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
>
> Nick,
> Thanks for pointing that out, I finally found the e-mail trail.  I decided that I couldn't take a chance on 3.0.4 and reverted back to 3.0.3.  I guess we are done with 3.x and will wait for 5.x or the next great GUI Framework.  Tapestry has been fun and very interesting.
>
> regards,
>
> Mark
>
> Mark J. Stang
> Senior Engineer/Architect
> office: +1 303.468.2900
> mobile: +1 303.507.2833
> Ping Identity
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Westgate [mailto:nick@key-planning.co.jp]
> Sent: Tue 1/30/2007 8:10 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: FW: Tapestry 3.0.4..not on mirrors
>
> Hi Mark.
>
> I'm referring to this thread:
> "3.0.4 and repetitive method name/signature problem (class enhancement)"
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.tapestry.user/43121
>
> Take it to the dev list when you've read that.
> (I'm not a dev, so as to who is managing 3 now ...)
>
> Cheers,
> Nick.
>
>
> Mark Stang wrote:
> > Nick,
> > I did a quick look and only saw references to 4.x.  If 3.0.4 is not the current release, then why does the Tapestry Web site have it listed as such?
> >
> > http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry3/
> >
> > Who is managing this?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Mark
>
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