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Posted to dev@forrest.apache.org by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org> on 2003/12/30 10:45:19 UTC
Re: forrest-css
David Crossley wrote:
>>nicolaken 2003/12/28 14:54:16
>>
>> Modified: src/core/context/skins/common/xslt/html document2html.xsl
>><snip other modified files/>
>> Log:
>> Double new features (as they have changes some of the same files)
>> - add subtab handling and enable it for krysalis-site and tigris-style
>> - show external links with an icon at the end
>>
>> Note: not added for other skins as forrest-site will use krysalis-site
>> soon and tigris-style deprecates avalon-tigris. As for teh forrest-css one,
>> never looked at it, sorry
>
> I have only had time for a glance at the forrest-css. Pity.
> This skin was supposed to inspire our general development:
I have changed krysalis-site with the same ideas in mind:
> * HTML style stuff in the css, not in the output html.
Moved all style in css and all style images are in CSS too; the colors
are neatly separated and the CSS and html is documented.
> * Minimise use of tables.
Less tables, but this can still be improved.
> * Standards compliance.
Should be html and CSS compliant.
> * Demonstrate best practice.
Not sure here ;-)
> * Better rendering in text-mode browsers.
Definately better, as our text-browser advocate has chacked it and it's
better.
> The main discussion thread started at cocoon-docs (thanks Tony):
> [RT] Getting rid of the table-based layout
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-docs&m=103471154901016
> then branched to cocoon-dev and forrest-dev. Many topics
> were covered. Then Miles Elam made the skin/forrest-css
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=103583691609120
> and thankfully someone heeded NKB's email sig and added to Forrest.
>
> We should not let those ideas wither. So if someone has
> the energy, then please keep forrest-css going.
I suggest instead that these changes are ported, where still applicable,
to krysalis-site, so that we can finally put it to rest and have only
two skins: forrest-site (from krysalis-site and forrest-css) and
tigris-style (that deprecates avalon-tigris).
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
- verba volant, scripta manent -
(discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: forrest-css
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
David Crossley wrote:
> Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
>>David Crossley wrote:
>>
>>>>nicolaken 2003/12/28
>
> <snip/>
>
>>>> Note: not added for other skins as forrest-site will use krysalis-site
>>>> soon and tigris-style deprecates avalon-tigris. As for teh forrest-css one,
>>>> never looked at it, sorry
>>>
>>>I have only had time for a glance at the forrest-css. Pity.
>>>This skin was supposed to inspire our general development:
>>
>>I have changed krysalis-site with the same ideas in mind:
>
> Great - i should have known that you would. It was your comment
> about not looking at forrest-css that got me going.
Well, you said it right, I should have said it myself :-)
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
- verba volant, scripta manent -
(discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: forrest-css
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> >>nicolaken 2003/12/28
<snip/>
> >> Note: not added for other skins as forrest-site will use krysalis-site
> >> soon and tigris-style deprecates avalon-tigris. As for teh forrest-css one,
> >> never looked at it, sorry
> >
> > I have only had time for a glance at the forrest-css. Pity.
> > This skin was supposed to inspire our general development:
>
> I have changed krysalis-site with the same ideas in mind:
Great - i should have known that you would. It was your comment
about not looking at forrest-css that got me going.
<snip comforting reply to some concerns/>
> > We should not let those ideas wither. So if someone has
> > the energy, then please keep forrest-css going.
>
> I suggest instead that these changes are ported, where still applicable,
> to krysalis-site, so that we can finally put it to rest and have only
> two skins: forrest-site (from krysalis-site and forrest-css) and
> tigris-style (that deprecates avalon-tigris).
Thanks, i suppose that that is what i was trying to say.
--David
Re: forrest-css
Posted by Johan Kok <jk...@messianic.dyndns.org>.
Great guns... You did not paly around, great work
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
>
>>> nicolaken 2003/12/28 14:54:16
>>>
>>> Modified: src/core/context/skins/common/xslt/html document2html.xsl
>>> <snip other modified files/>
>>> Log:
>>> Double new features (as they have changes some of the same files)
>>> - add subtab handling and enable it for krysalis-site and tigris-style
>>> - show external links with an icon at the end
>>>
>>> Note: not added for other skins as forrest-site will use krysalis-site
>>> soon and tigris-style deprecates avalon-tigris. As for teh
>>> forrest-css one,
>>> never looked at it, sorry
>>
>>
>> I have only had time for a glance at the forrest-css. Pity.
>> This skin was supposed to inspire our general development:
>
>
> I have changed krysalis-site with the same ideas in mind:
>
>> * HTML style stuff in the css, not in the output html.
>
>
> Moved all style in css and all style images are in CSS too; the colors
> are neatly separated and the CSS and html is documented.
>
>> * Minimise use of tables.
>
>
> Less tables, but this can still be improved.
>
>> * Standards compliance.
>
>
> Should be html and CSS compliant.
>
>> * Demonstrate best practice.
>
>
> Not sure here ;-)
>
>> * Better rendering in text-mode browsers.
>
>
> Definately better, as our text-browser advocate has chacked it and
> it's better.
>
>> The main discussion thread started at cocoon-docs (thanks Tony):
>> [RT] Getting rid of the table-based layout
>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-docs&m=103471154901016
>> then branched to cocoon-dev and forrest-dev. Many topics
>> were covered. Then Miles Elam made the skin/forrest-css
>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=103583691609120
>> and thankfully someone heeded NKB's email sig and added to Forrest.
>>
>> We should not let those ideas wither. So if someone has
>> the energy, then please keep forrest-css going.
>
>
> I suggest instead that these changes are ported, where still
> applicable, to krysalis-site, so that we can finally put it to rest
> and have only two skins: forrest-site (from krysalis-site and
> forrest-css) and tigris-style (that deprecates avalon-tigris).
>