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Posted to legal-discuss@apache.org by Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org> on 2007/02/27 20:50:00 UTC
Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Hi,
We should have one, single, clear, authoritative document / web page
where we outline or logo usage guidelines.
Assuming everyone agrees with the above, I say we copy the Eclipse one
at http://www.eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php and tailor it to
our needs and circumstances.
This is not my original idea: J Aaron Farr brought it up last year,
and we've gotten legal permission on record from Janet Campbell at
Eclipse: see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200607.mbox/%3C20060720132718.0BC2010E6@foundation.eclipse.org%3E
for the mailing list thread.
Do we agree this is a good idea and a decent path to follow?
Obviously we'll all collaborate on the text of the page and keep
legal-discuss in the loop.
Yoav
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Re: Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
In the document, we say
"The appropriate trademark symbol (i.e. TM) should appear at
least with the first use of Apache trademarks and all
occurances of the Apache logo."
Before putting this document into effect, should we do this ourselves?
-Ted.
On 7/11/07, J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> "Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org> writes:
>
> > Is this document available online? I have a relevant question pending
> > for human-response@.
> >
> > If not, my suggestion would be to add an entry for "Logos" under the
> > list of Foundation pages.
>
> No, it's not online yet. I would love it to be, but the reason I
> didn't put it online is because there was no discussion following my
> committing the document. I felt unconfortable effectively setting
> Apache policy by myself without feedback.
>
> --
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>
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HTH, Ted <http://www.husted.com/ted/blog/>
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Re: Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Posted by J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org>.
"Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org> writes:
> Is this document available online? I have a relevant question pending
> for human-response@.
>
> If not, my suggestion would be to add an entry for "Logos" under the
> list of Foundation pages.
No, it's not online yet. I would love it to be, but the reason I
didn't put it online is because there was no discussion following my
committing the document. I felt unconfortable effectively setting
Apache policy by myself without feedback.
--
J Aaron Farr jadetower.com [US] +1 724-964-4515
馮傑仁 cubiclemuses.com [HK] +852 8123-7905
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Re: Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Is this document available online? I have a relevant question pending
for human-response@.
If not, my suggestion would be to add an entry for "Logos" under the
list of Foundation pages.
-Ted.
On 3/13/07, J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org> wrote:
> I've just committed it to foundation/legal/Policies/logo-guidelines.xml
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Re: Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Posted by J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org>.
J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org> writes:
> I've got an initially xdoc written up, but I'm not sure where to put
> it. Any suggestions?
I've just committed it to foundation/legal/Policies/logo-guidelines.xml
Comments and suggestions welcome (and needed).
--
jaaron
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Re: Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Posted by J Aaron Farr <fa...@apache.org>.
"Yoav Shapira" <yo...@apache.org> writes:
> Do we agree this is a good idea and a decent path to follow?
> Obviously we'll all collaborate on the text of the page and keep
> legal-discuss in the loop.
I've got an initially xdoc written up, but I'm not sure where to put
it. Any suggestions?
Also, as soon as I started writing it, a number of good points came
up:
What actual trademarks does the ASF own? Do we actually have a
trademark for, say, "Apache Struts"
What logos are acceptable to use? Part of the reason I wanted this
document is that I don't think we have any logos that are clearly
available for other parties to use. Some projects have "Powered By"
logos. Do we need to collect all of those? We're going to need to
issue some direction to the PMCs.
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jaaron
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Re: Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
Sounds good to me.
On Feb 27, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> We should have one, single, clear, authoritative document / web page
> where we outline or logo usage guidelines.
>
> Assuming everyone agrees with the above, I say we copy the Eclipse one
> at http://www.eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php and tailor it to
> our needs and circumstances.
>
> This is not my original idea: J Aaron Farr brought it up last year,
> and we've gotten legal permission on record from Janet Campbell at
> Eclipse: see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-
> discuss/200607.mbox/%
> 3C20060720132718.0BC2010E6@foundation.eclipse.org%3E
> for the mailing list thread.
>
> Do we agree this is a good idea and a decent path to follow?
> Obviously we'll all collaborate on the text of the page and keep
> legal-discuss in the loop.
>
> Yoav
>
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Re: Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
FWIW, the PRC has already agreed that the concept makes a
lot of sense.
On Feb 27, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote:
> Hi,
> We should have one, single, clear, authoritative document / web page
> where we outline or logo usage guidelines.
>
> Assuming everyone agrees with the above, I say we copy the Eclipse one
> at http://www.eclipse.org/legal/logo_guidelines.php and tailor it to
> our needs and circumstances.
>
> This is not my original idea: J Aaron Farr brought it up last year,
> and we've gotten legal permission on record from Janet Campbell at
> Eclipse: see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-
> discuss/200607.mbox/%
> 3C20060720132718.0BC2010E6@foundation.eclipse.org%3E
> for the mailing list thread.
>
> Do we agree this is a good idea and a decent path to follow?
> Obviously we'll all collaborate on the text of the page and keep
> legal-discuss in the loop.
>
> Yoav
>
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Re: Let's copy the Eclipse logo usage document
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
On 2/27/07, Yoav Shapira <yo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Do we agree this is a good idea and a decent path to follow?
+1. -- justin
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