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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by Denis Gerasimov <de...@vekos.ru> on 2005/06/01 09:51:46 UTC

RE: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

> 
> Veysel Harun Sahin wrote:
> >
> > I want to use russian charset
> 
> Why are people still creating new websites with these obsolete character
> sets? Why not just use UTF-8? It's been around for long enough...
> 

Okay, I also think that is a good idea (especially for multi-language
sites), but I think there are many old browsers that don't support UTF-8
documents... Does anyone have info/experience on this issue?

BTW I don't believe that UTF-8 page is *significant* larger - most of the
characters (e.g. HTML code) are still represented with one byte.

And what's about images? HTML document usually contains many images and I
suppose that impact on the traffic won't be so serious.

Please, let me know if I'm wrong.

Best regards,
Denis Gerasimov,
Chief Developer, VEKOS Ltd.
www.vekos.ru




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RE: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

Posted by Denis Gerasimov <de...@vekos.ru>.
> 
> > BTW I don't believe that UTF-8 page is *significant* larger - most of
> the
> > characters (e.g. HTML code) are still represented with one byte.
> 
> If you have messy HTML code, this argument happens to be true ;-)

I usually don't ;-)

> If you have more text and each russian character takes about 3 octets
> with UTF-8, it's just the wrong assumption.

Only 2 octets in fact. And I really think that HTML pages with lots of text
are not user-friendly.

Thanks for you opinion.

> 
> nd
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Re: [users@httpd] Russian Charset Problem

Posted by André Malo <nd...@perlig.de>.
* "Denis Gerasimov" <de...@vekos.ru> wrote:

> BTW I don't believe that UTF-8 page is *significant* larger - most of the
> characters (e.g. HTML code) are still represented with one byte.

If you have messy HTML code, this argument happens to be true ;-)
If you have more text and each russian character takes about 3 octets
with UTF-8, it's just the wrong assumption.

nd

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