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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by Kelly Moran <km...@hotmail.com> on 2005/04/07 23:18:30 UTC
Is Lenya right for me?
Hi!
I just recently stubbled upon the lenya project and am wondering if it might work for a project I am working on. I'm hoping some of you more familiar with it can tell me if its worth considering. I need a basic CMS. I want to have global content managed by the CMS. This global content will be displayed on multiple websites. Each website has its own presentation style. The presentation style for each website is managed by other people. I only control the content they are able to display.
Is Lenya a good choice for a basic CMS? I don't even need workflow for this. I mainly want to be able to change content on my side and have it automatically reflected on all of the micro-sites.
Is XML + XSLT the best way to build the microsites or is there an alternative I should consider? Again each microsite should be able to vary the presentation style, as well as possibly the navigation.
I welcome any suggestions!
Kelly
Re: Is Lenya right for me?
Posted by Kelly Moran <km...@hotmail.com>.
>
> if you are looking to have what is basically a root site and a family of
> derived sites, that is what the university of zurich publication does,
> which you can get from http://wyona.org
>
This is what I'm looking for but I'd like the derived sites updated when the
root site is updates. I'm looking the uni of zurich publication. Can you
explain the different pubs? unizh, unitemplate, unipublic and eltemplate?
I'm not sure this is exactly what I'm looking for since I would like 1
library of content used by mulitple presentations.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>
To: "Lenya Developers List" <de...@lenya.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: Is Lenya right for me?
> Kelly Moran wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I just recently stubbled upon the lenya project and am wondering if it
>> might work for a project I am working on. I'm hoping some of you more
>> familiar with it can tell me if its worth considering. I need a basic
>> CMS. I want to have global content managed by the CMS. This global
>> content will be displayed on multiple websites. Each website has its own
>> presentation style. The presentation style for each website is managed by
>> other people. I only control the content they are able to display.
>>
>> Is Lenya a good choice for a basic CMS? I don't even need workflow for
>> this. I mainly want to be able to change content on my side and have it
>> automatically reflected on all of the micro-sites.
>
> if you are looking to have what is basically a root site and a family of
> derived sites, that is what the university of zurich publication does,
> which you can get from http://wyona.org
>
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Re: Is Lenya right for me?
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Kelly Moran wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I just recently stubbled upon the lenya project and am wondering if it might work for a project I am working on. I'm hoping some of you more familiar with it can tell me if its worth considering. I need a basic CMS. I want to have global content managed by the CMS. This global content will be displayed on multiple websites. Each website has its own presentation style. The presentation style for each website is managed by other people. I only control the content they are able to display.
>
> Is Lenya a good choice for a basic CMS? I don't even need workflow for this. I mainly want to be able to change content on my side and have it automatically reflected on all of the micro-sites.
if you are looking to have what is basically a root site and a family of
derived sites, that is what the university of zurich publication does,
which you can get from http://wyona.org
> Is XML + XSLT the best way to build the microsites or is there an alternative I should consider? Again each microsite should be able to vary the presentation style, as well as possibly the navigation.
CSS is preferrable for styling, XSLT for structural changes.
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Re: Is Lenya right for me?
Posted by Kelly Moran <km...@hotmail.com>.
I'm looking more at pulling the content. It's very similiar to building a
global site for a project and then letting every country use the content
from the global site to build their own websites. My main requirements are:
Content that gets updated on the global site is also updated on the
country sites
Country sites are allowed to pick and choose their content.
Country sites are allowed to change their navigation/site structure
Country webmesters only have access and knowledge of
html/xml/dreamweaver type skills
I'm considering using Lenya for the global content. It is my understanding
that the content is actually in xml format. So then I need a combination of
XML/XSLT/CSS to build the global presentation site as well as the country
sites. However much like dreamweaver type templates I imagine there will be
some parts of a page that shouldn't be editable by the countries.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Hartmann" <an...@apache.org>
To: <de...@lenya.apache.org>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:12 AM
Subject: Re: Is Lenya right for me?
> Kelly Moran wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I just recently stubbled upon the lenya project and am wondering if it
>> might work for a project I am working on. I'm hoping some of you more
>> familiar with it can tell me if its worth considering. I need a basic
>> CMS. I want to have global content managed by the CMS. This global
>> content will be displayed on multiple websites. Each website has its own
>> presentation style. The presentation style for each website is managed by
>> other people. I only control the content they are able to display.
>> Is Lenya a good choice for a basic CMS? I don't even need workflow for
>> this. I mainly want to be able to change content on my side and have it
>> automatically reflected on all of the micro-sites.
>
> I don't know if anyone implemented such a "content distribution"
> feature, but it shouldn't be that difficult.
>
> Some design questions:
>
> - Do you want "push" or "pull" content distribution? (publish the content
> from the content management facility to the various micro-sites or
> import the content on a micro-site from the central content repository)
>
> - Do you want a common site structure and display only parts of it on
> the micro-sites, or do you want to use arbitrary site structures for
> each micro-site?
>
> The answers to these questions might indicate how complex it is to
> implement the CMS solution using the Lenya framework.
>
>
>> Is XML + XSLT the best way to build the microsites or is there an
>> alternative I should consider?
>
> XML+XSLT is a way of content storage and transformation. It is certainly
> a good way to build websites in general.
>
> The key issue in your usecase is to distribute the content. Some
> technologies are:
>
> - repository (file system, symlinks, JCR170, ...)
> - content syndication and aggregation (XLink, XInclude, RSS, ...)
>
>> Again each microsite should be able to vary the presentation style, as
>> well as possibly the navigation.
>
> Ah, that already answers question (b). The simpliest option would
> certainly be to
>
> - publish the content from the content management facility to a micro-site
> - re-arrange the navigation of the subsite
>
> But this would mean that you lose the ability to update the content on
> the micro-site after publishing. A better solution would probably be
> implemented with "pull" distribution using XInlude etc.
>
>
> -- Andreas
>
>
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Re: Is Lenya right for me?
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Kelly Moran wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I just recently stubbled upon the lenya project and am wondering if it
> might work for a project I am working on. I'm hoping some of you more
> familiar with it can tell me if its worth considering. I need a basic
> CMS. I want to have global content managed by the CMS. This global
> content will be displayed on multiple websites. Each website has its
> own presentation style. The presentation style for each website is
> managed by other people. I only control the content they are able to
> display.
>
> Is Lenya a good choice for a basic CMS? I don't even need workflow for
> this. I mainly want to be able to change content on my side and have it
> automatically reflected on all of the micro-sites.
I don't know if anyone implemented such a "content distribution"
feature, but it shouldn't be that difficult.
Some design questions:
- Do you want "push" or "pull" content distribution? (publish the content
from the content management facility to the various micro-sites or
import the content on a micro-site from the central content repository)
- Do you want a common site structure and display only parts of it on
the micro-sites, or do you want to use arbitrary site structures for
each micro-site?
The answers to these questions might indicate how complex it is to
implement the CMS solution using the Lenya framework.
> Is XML + XSLT the best way to build the microsites or is there an
> alternative I should consider?
XML+XSLT is a way of content storage and transformation. It is certainly
a good way to build websites in general.
The key issue in your usecase is to distribute the content. Some
technologies are:
- repository (file system, symlinks, JCR170, ...)
- content syndication and aggregation (XLink, XInclude, RSS, ...)
> Again each microsite should be able to
> vary the presentation style, as well as possibly the navigation.
Ah, that already answers question (b). The simpliest option would
certainly be to
- publish the content from the content management facility to a micro-site
- re-arrange the navigation of the subsite
But this would mean that you lose the ability to update the content on
the micro-site after publishing. A better solution would probably be
implemented with "pull" distribution using XInlude etc.
-- Andreas
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