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Posted to marketing@cloudstack.apache.org by Amy Lindberg <am...@appcore.com> on 2014/06/25 23:50:28 UTC
CloudStack infographic
I am thinking about creating an inforgraphic that includes information
about CloudStack. Below is a list of items that I could like to include.
Anyone know where I can gather this info?
1. Release date and version since the project started
2. Number of countries using CloudStack
3. Number of contributors
4. Number of lines of code
5. Uses for the platform (e-commerce, media, industrial)
6. Larger enterprise using CloudStack (I know that Giles compiled a
list, is there any other that I should include?
Anyone else have suggestions on what to include? Thanks for the input.
*Amy Lindberg*
Director of Marketing | Appcore - the business of cloud computing®
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Re: CloudStack infographic
Posted by Rohit Yadav <ro...@gmail.com>.
Looking forward to the infographics Amy! Let me share some stats below,
inline;
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Chip Childers <ch...@apache.org>
wrote:
>
> That is fantastic Amy!
>
> Some specific comments below:
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 04:50:28PM -0500, Amy Lindberg wrote:
> > I am thinking about creating an inforgraphic that includes information
> > about CloudStack. Below is a list of items that I could like to include.
> > Anyone know where I can gather this info?
> >
> >
> > 1. Release date and version since the project started
>
> Hmmm... that's a really good request. Here is the list for *Apache*
> CloudStack. Remember that this was a commercial product from cloud.com
> first, then an OSS project at Citrix and now at Apache. Perhaps someone
> from Citrix would be able to offer a listing of the pre-ASF releases
> (significant vs. bug fix) to Amy?
>
> Here's the Apache CloudStack list:
>
> 4.0.0-incubating - Nov 6, 2012
> 4.0.1-incubating - Feb 12, 2013
> 4.0.2 - April 24, 2013
> 4.1.0 - June 5, 2013
> 4.1.1 - Aug 6, 2013
> 4.2.0 - Oct 1, 2012
> 4.2.1 - Jan 10, 2014
> 4.3.0 - Mar 25, 2014
>
>
> > 2. Number of countries using CloudStack
>
> That's exceptionally hard to know, since we can only really track some
> of our download activity. That said, there's discussion about trying to
> pull together some details from the package download logs.
Difficult indeed, but recently ShapeBlue shared list of companies using
CloudStack. Maybe you can use this information somehow to show diversity:
http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack/are-these-people-really-all-using-cloudstack
>
>
> > 3. Number of contributors
>
> Contributors is another difficult question. We can say that there are
> 290 different email addresses listed as contributors to the *code* right
> now. I'd use the term "code contributors", because honestly... you're
> a contributor as well here (just with marketing support, not code)!
One way could be to count unique names (not email addresses) that sent
email to all our mailing lists?
>
> > 4. Number of lines of code
>
> We're actually debating how to measure this correctly right now. There
> are some files in the codebase that need to be excluded, because they
> are auto-generated... I believe Rohit did some better line counting
> recently. Rohit, care to share?
Sure Chip. One may use Ohloh for this as well:
http://www.ohloh.net/p/CloudStack/analyses/latest/languages_summary
It's debatable what we should consider as lines of code so let me share all
of them and how I calculate them:
- Total lines of text/code in our code base is about 2.3M lines this
includes code, docs, xmls, license etc. [1]
- Language specific: [2] (we can show it as pie chart maybe?)
- XML: 94k LOC (lines of code)
- Properties files (config): 23k LOC
- HTML: 900 LOC
- CSS: 23k LOC
- JavaScript: 130k LOC
- Groovy: 2.5k LOC
- SQL: 19k LOC
- Shell script: 20k LOC
- C# (.NET): 57k LOC
- Python: 167k LOC
- Java: 1.75M LOC
- The "awsapi" artifact is about 1.04M lines of code, in a recent poll (
http://www.polljunkie.com/poll/ssraym/who-uses-awsapi-with-cloudstack-in-prouduction/view)
we found that it's much popular or perhaps used in production
What I consider is the *real* number of lines of code = All
(Java+Python+Shell+SQL) minus (headers + comments + blank-lines + docs +
AWSAPI) = 716k LOC [3]
In the above if we remove tests, the number comes down to: 542k LOC
How to calculate it:
[1] git ls-files | xargs cat | wc -l
[2] git ls-files | grep <lang file extension>$ | xargs cat | wc -l
[3] git ls-files | egrep "(py|java|sql|sh)$" | grep -v \^awsapi | xargs cat
| grep -v \^\# | grep -v \^\/\/ | grep -v "^$" | wc -l
Regards.
>
>
> > 5. Uses for the platform (e-commerce, media, industrial)
>
> Anywhere that an IaaS platform can be useful. Obviously service
> providers are a significant user-base for CloudStack. Additionally,
> there are plenty of "private cloud" environments as well... Spanning
> multiple industries.
>
> > 6. Larger enterprise using CloudStack (I know that Giles compiled a
> > list, is there any other that I should include?
>
> The list that he has is reasonable, however we want to start figuring
> out how to effectively add as many users as possible here. For example,
> I spoke with some of the AppCore folks at HostingCon, and suggested that
> you guys/gals would be super awesome if you could poll your customers to
> see how many would be willing to be listed as Apache CloudStack users.
>
> It's also likely that Gile's list will need some massaging, as we pull
> out those that are less "users" and more "integrate with or work on".
>
Re: CloudStack infographic
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@apache.org>.
That is fantastic Amy!
Some specific comments below:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 04:50:28PM -0500, Amy Lindberg wrote:
> I am thinking about creating an inforgraphic that includes information
> about CloudStack. Below is a list of items that I could like to include.
> Anyone know where I can gather this info?
>
>
> 1. Release date and version since the project started
Hmmm... that's a really good request. Here is the list for *Apache*
CloudStack. Remember that this was a commercial product from cloud.com
first, then an OSS project at Citrix and now at Apache. Perhaps someone
from Citrix would be able to offer a listing of the pre-ASF releases
(significant vs. bug fix) to Amy?
Here's the Apache CloudStack list:
4.0.0-incubating - Nov 6, 2012
4.0.1-incubating - Feb 12, 2013
4.0.2 - April 24, 2013
4.1.0 - June 5, 2013
4.1.1 - Aug 6, 2013
4.2.0 - Oct 1, 2012
4.2.1 - Jan 10, 2014
4.3.0 - Mar 25, 2014
> 2. Number of countries using CloudStack
That's exceptionally hard to know, since we can only really track some
of our download activity. That said, there's discussion about trying to
pull together some details from the package download logs.
> 3. Number of contributors
Contributors is another difficult question. We can say that there are
290 different email addresses listed as contributors to the *code* right
now. I'd use the term "code contributors", because honestly... you're
a contributor as well here (just with marketing support, not code)!
> 4. Number of lines of code
We're actually debating how to measure this correctly right now. There
are some files in the codebase that need to be excluded, because they
are auto-generated... I believe Rohit did some better line counting
recently. Rohit, care to share?
> 5. Uses for the platform (e-commerce, media, industrial)
Anywhere that an IaaS platform can be useful. Obviously service
providers are a significant user-base for CloudStack. Additionally,
there are plenty of "private cloud" environments as well... Spanning
multiple industries.
> 6. Larger enterprise using CloudStack (I know that Giles compiled a
> list, is there any other that I should include?
The list that he has is reasonable, however we want to start figuring
out how to effectively add as many users as possible here. For example,
I spoke with some of the AppCore folks at HostingCon, and suggested that
you guys/gals would be super awesome if you could poll your customers to
see how many would be willing to be listed as Apache CloudStack users.
It's also likely that Gile's list will need some massaging, as we pull
out those that are less "users" and more "integrate with or work on".
Re: CloudStack infographic
Posted by Sebastien Goasguen <ru...@gmail.com>.
Here is a thread from november where we talked about this:
http://markmail.org/thread/5nwfalvwmhzlkpyu
numbers would need to be updated...
On Jun 26, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com> wrote:
> Yes, I do
> We may have to augment the survey results with known sites
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
> Giles
>
> D: +44 20 3603 0541 | M: +44 796 111 2055
> Giles.Sirett@shapeblue.com
>
> On 26 Jun 2014, at 20:05, "Chip Childers" <ch...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 04:50:28PM -0500, Amy Lindberg wrote:
>>> Anyone else have suggestions on what to include? Thanks for the input.
>>
>> Another thought Amy... do you think it's worth working with Giles to
>> get the survey out, and then use that as a basis for the infographic?
> Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
>
> IaaS Cloud Design & Build
> CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment framework
> CloudStack Consulting
> CloudStack Infrastructure Support
> CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses
>
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Re: CloudStack infographic
Posted by Giles Sirett <gi...@shapeblue.com>.
Yes, I do
We may have to augment the survey results with known sites
Kind Regards
Giles
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On 26 Jun 2014, at 20:05, "Chip Childers" <ch...@apache.org>> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 04:50:28PM -0500, Amy Lindberg wrote:
Anyone else have suggestions on what to include? Thanks for the input.
Another thought Amy... do you think it's worth working with Giles to
get the survey out, and then use that as a basis for the infographic?
Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services
IaaS Cloud Design & Build<http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build//>
CSForge - rapid IaaS deployment framework<http://shapeblue.com/csforge/>
CloudStack Consulting<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/>
CloudStack Infrastructure Support<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/>
CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses<http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/>
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Re: CloudStack infographic
Posted by Chip Childers <ch...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 04:50:28PM -0500, Amy Lindberg wrote:
> Anyone else have suggestions on what to include? Thanks for the input.
Another thought Amy... do you think it's worth working with Giles to
get the survey out, and then use that as a basis for the infographic?
Re: CloudStack infographic
Posted by Sally Khudairi <sa...@yahoo.com>.
Thanks, Amy!
Really, really helpful. I'm crazy about great (info)graphics.
As you may have seen from recent list traffic, I've been digging through a lot of the project's background (for the tearsheet, etc.) and can help get you some of the items below. Naturally, it will need to be sanity-checked by other list members in case I've missed something (no ego here).
I'll get back to you before start of business (US) tomorrow.
Cheers,
Sally
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>________________________________
> From: Amy Lindberg <am...@appcore.com>
>To: marketing@cloudstack.apache.org
>Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2014, 17:50
>Subject: CloudStack infographic
>
>
>
>I am thinking about creating an inforgraphic that includes information about CloudStack. Below is a list of items that I could like to include. Anyone know where I can gather this info?
>
>
> 1. Release date and version since the project started
> 2. Number of countries using CloudStack
> 3. Number of contributors
> 4. Number of lines of code
> 5. Uses for the platform (e-commerce, media, industrial)
> 6. Larger enterprise using CloudStack (I know that Giles compiled a list, is there any other that I should include? Anyone else have suggestions on what to include? Thanks for the input.
>
>
>Amy Lindberg
>Director of Marketing | Appcore - the business of cloud computing®
>
>
>Office +1.800.735.7104 | Fax +1.515.612.7861
>Direct +1.515.612.7792 | Mobile +1.515.250.7003
>amy.lindberg@appcore.com | www.appcore.com
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