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Posted to users@solr.apache.org by Егор Иванов <eg...@gmail.com> on 2021/08/10 10:36:43 UTC
Solr russification
Hello, my name is Egor
Is there any way to translate Solr's GUI to russian?
Looking forward to hearing from you
Re: Solr russification
Posted by "Mark H. Wood" <mw...@iupui.edu>.
On Tue, Aug 10, 2021 at 04:08:04PM +0200, Thomas Corthals wrote:
> Machine translation often does a better job with paragraphs because the
> words are in context. Single word labels such as "Logging" are what gets it
> confused because it can't always figure out if that's about log files or
> felling trees.
>
> Op di 10 aug. 2021 om 15:27 schreef Dave <ha...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Gotcha, I don’t know Russian so I didn’t know that. the admin ui has very
> > limited English to translate there aren’t paragraphs, unless you want the
> > results translated, otherwise it’s pretty straight forward I would have
> > thought
That makes sense, but the first issue is going to be: was the code
written to be localizable? It sounds to me, from a previous post,
as if the answer is "no", though the UI kit seems to support it.
To make code localizable, you first have to internationalize it. That
means moving every scrap of user-visible text to a message catalog.
Every button label; every error message; many link bodies; every bit of
explanation. Otherwise, every translator will have to hunt down all
of these places, and that takes a skill set rather different from
those involved in translation -- people who are good at both are not
common.
Once you have all the text in a catalog, translation mostly involves
reading one catalog and writing another. Upgrading starts with
listing the changes in one catalog and making corresponding changes in
another. That is much easier than trawling through code looking for
things that might have changed. Machine translation *may* help.
--
Mark H. Wood
Lead Technology Analyst
University Library
Indiana University - Purdue University Indianapolis
755 W. Michigan Street
Indianapolis, IN 46202
317-274-0749
www.ulib.iupui.edu
Re: Solr russification
Posted by Thomas Corthals <th...@klascement.net>.
Machine translation often does a better job with paragraphs because the
words are in context. Single word labels such as "Logging" are what gets it
confused because it can't always figure out if that's about log files or
felling trees.
Op di 10 aug. 2021 om 15:27 schreef Dave <ha...@gmail.com>:
> Gotcha, I don’t know Russian so I didn’t know that. the admin ui has very
> limited English to translate there aren’t paragraphs, unless you want the
> results translated, otherwise it’s pretty straight forward I would have
> thought
>
> > On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Stephen Boesch <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > automated translations are rough at best
> >
> >> On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 06:16, Dave <ha...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Cant chrome translate the page or is there too much JavaScript?
> >>
> >>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Eric Pugh <
> epugh@opensourceconnections.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Nothing built in today. The Solr GUI is written in AngularJS, and
> >> while it references support for i18n, no one has taken that step.
> >>
> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/i18n#how-does-angularjs-support-i18n-l10n-
> >>>
> >>> This type of feature is why we’d love to see someone step up and move
> >> the GUI to more modern platform that more easily supports this kind of
> >> feature.
> >>>
> >>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:36 AM, Егор Иванов <eg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello, my name is Egor
> >>>> Is there any way to translate Solr's GUI to russian?
> >>>> Looking forward to hearing from you
> >>>
> >>> _______________________
> >>> Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467
> |
> >> http://www.opensourceconnections.com <
> >> http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <
> >> http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
> >>> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <
> >>
> https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw
> >
> >>
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> be
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> >> whether attachments are marked as such.
> >>>
> >>
>
Re: Solr russification
Posted by Dave <ha...@gmail.com>.
Gotcha, I don’t know Russian so I didn’t know that. the admin ui has very limited English to translate there aren’t paragraphs, unless you want the results translated, otherwise it’s pretty straight forward I would have thought
> On Aug 10, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Stephen Boesch <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> automated translations are rough at best
>
>> On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 06:16, Dave <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cant chrome translate the page or is there too much JavaScript?
>>
>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nothing built in today. The Solr GUI is written in AngularJS, and
>> while it references support for i18n, no one has taken that step.
>> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/i18n#how-does-angularjs-support-i18n-l10n-
>>>
>>> This type of feature is why we’d love to see someone step up and move
>> the GUI to more modern platform that more easily supports this kind of
>> feature.
>>>
>>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:36 AM, Егор Иванов <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello, my name is Egor
>>>> Is there any way to translate Solr's GUI to russian?
>>>> Looking forward to hearing from you
>>>
>>> _______________________
>>> Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 |
>> http://www.opensourceconnections.com <
>> http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <
>> http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
>>> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <
>> https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw>
>>
>>> This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be
>> Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of
>> whether attachments are marked as such.
>>>
>>
Re: Solr russification
Posted by dmitri maziuk <dm...@gmail.com>.
On 2021-08-10 8:18 AM, Stephen Boesch wrote:
> automated translations are rough at best
>
As a native Russian speaker I promise you that non-automated ones are
just as bad at best.
Dima
Re: Solr russification
Posted by Stephen Boesch <ja...@gmail.com>.
automated translations are rough at best
On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 06:16, Dave <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cant chrome translate the page or is there too much JavaScript?
>
> > On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nothing built in today. The Solr GUI is written in AngularJS, and
> while it references support for i18n, no one has taken that step.
> https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/i18n#how-does-angularjs-support-i18n-l10n-
> >
> > This type of feature is why we’d love to see someone step up and move
> the GUI to more modern platform that more easily supports this kind of
> feature.
> >
> >> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:36 AM, Егор Иванов <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello, my name is Egor
> >> Is there any way to translate Solr's GUI to russian?
> >> Looking forward to hearing from you
> >
> > _______________________
> > Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 |
> http://www.opensourceconnections.com <
> http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <
> http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
> > Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <
> https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw>
>
> > This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be
> Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of
> whether attachments are marked as such.
> >
>
Re: Solr russification
Posted by Dave <ha...@gmail.com>.
Cant chrome translate the page or is there too much JavaScript?
> On Aug 10, 2021, at 8:44 AM, Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
>
> Nothing built in today. The Solr GUI is written in AngularJS, and while it references support for i18n, no one has taken that step. https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/i18n#how-does-angularjs-support-i18n-l10n-
>
> This type of feature is why we’d love to see someone step up and move the GUI to more modern platform that more easily supports this kind of feature.
>
>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:36 AM, Егор Иванов <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello, my name is Egor
>> Is there any way to translate Solr's GUI to russian?
>> Looking forward to hearing from you
>
> _______________________
> Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | http://www.opensourceconnections.com <http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
> Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw>
> This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of whether attachments are marked as such.
>
Re: Solr russification
Posted by Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>.
Nothing built in today. The Solr GUI is written in AngularJS, and while it references support for i18n, no one has taken that step. https://docs.angularjs.org/guide/i18n#how-does-angularjs-support-i18n-l10n-
This type of feature is why we’d love to see someone step up and move the GUI to more modern platform that more easily supports this kind of feature.
> On Aug 10, 2021, at 6:36 AM, Егор Иванов <eg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello, my name is Egor
> Is there any way to translate Solr's GUI to russian?
> Looking forward to hearing from you
_______________________
Eric Pugh | Founder & CEO | OpenSource Connections, LLC | 434.466.1467 | http://www.opensourceconnections.com <http://www.opensourceconnections.com/> | My Free/Busy <http://tinyurl.com/eric-cal>
Co-Author: Apache Solr Enterprise Search Server, 3rd Ed <https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/apache-solr-enterprise-search-server-third-edition-raw>
This e-mail and all contents, including attachments, is considered to be Company Confidential unless explicitly stated otherwise, regardless of whether attachments are marked as such.