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[html] design fun and fun
2 things to look at.
http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/mod_perl_site/display/3333-i-9a.html
1) the shade at the menu-bozes is decreased from 8px to 5px so it is not
so dominant (and space-consuming)
2) the <pre> sections for code are here somewhat terminal looking - this
is just an idea out of the blue (or black if you like) so take it as
inspiration. at least it associates a little bit to a prompt window. it
doesn't handle the root/normal user debate currently.
please remind me why we use a nowrap tag (<pre>) for promts and code
examples? i mean, would it be ok to wrap the text if it was clear for
the user that the line was wrapped?
./allan
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Re: [html] design fun and fun
Posted by Thomas Klausner <do...@zsi.at>.
Hi!
On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 01:06:31PM +0200, allan wrote:
> http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/mod_perl_site/display/3333-i-9a.html
> 1) the shade at the menu-bozes is decreased from 8px to 5px so it is not
> so dominant (and space-consuming)
Looks nice, but IMO the shade add little to the functionality of the site.
+/-0
> 2) the <pre> sections for code are here somewhat terminal looking - this
> is just an idea out of the blue (or black if you like) so take it as
> inspiration. at least it associates a little bit to a prompt window.
But what about config file entries? We use those areas not only for command
prompts, but for a lot of other things.
eg:
http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/mod_perl_site/display/3333-i-9a.html#Callback_Hooks
IMO it would be nice to have different styles for different useages (like
your black background for commands to be entered at the prompt) but I think
it's impossible to implement this in POD.
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Re: [html] design fun and fun
Posted by Per Einar Ellefsen <pe...@skynet.be>.
At 13:06 08.06.2002, allan wrote:
>2 things to look at.
>
>http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/mod_perl_site/display/3333-i-9a.html
>
>
>1) the shade at the menu-bozes is decreased from 8px to 5px so it is not
>so dominant (and space-consuming)
-1. I don't like shades :)
>2) the <pre> sections for code are here somewhat terminal looking - this
>is just an idea out of the blue (or black if you like) so take it as
>inspiration. at least it associates a little bit to a prompt window. it
>doesn't handle the root/normal user debate currently.
-1 too. It _might_ be ok for this page, where it's only commands and not
code, but I think that generally, it distracts too much. I prefer the
simple bar we have now.
>please remind me why we use a nowrap tag (<pre>) for promts and code
>examples? i mean, would it be ok to wrap the text if it was clear for
>the user that the line was wrapped?
Not sure what you mean, but I don't think lines should be wrapped. If we
keep with 74 chars per line, we should be ok, except for the
command-line/code samples that are really too long. Either way, it doesn't
matter that much, but wrapping might be confusing and hard to copy-paste.
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Re: [html] design fun and fun
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Bill Moseley wrote:
> At 01:06 PM 06/08/02 +0200, allan wrote:
>
>>2 things to look at.
>>
>>http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/mod_perl_site/display/3333-i-9a.html
>>
>>
>>1) the shade at the menu-bozes is decreased from 8px to 5px so it is not
>>so dominant (and space-consuming)
>
>
> I kind of like the shade. A little jazzing up would be nice (remember I
> had those colorized logo suggestions?)
-1 on the current implementation, because the shade is not natural.
I'll be +0 if it looks normal :)
>>2) the <pre> sections for code are here somewhat terminal looking - this
>>is just an idea out of the blue (or black if you like) so take it as
>>inspiration.
-1
> I've always liked the blocks on some of the perldoc converters, such as:
>
> http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6/pod/perlfunc.html
-1,
the block ruin the reading experience. But first of all they don't work
on all browsers. I've tried this already with the guide.
>>please remind me why we use a nowrap tag (<pre>) for promts and code
>>examples? i mean, would it be ok to wrap the text if it was clear for
>>the user that the line was wrapped?
>
>
> I'd rather see it nowrap. Also some browsers (Opera) will add a space
> where the break is so copy-n-paste doesn't work.
Yes, the text must be nowrap. The authors should worry that the text is
not too much wide.
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Re: [html] design fun and fun
Posted by Bill Moseley <mo...@hank.org>.
At 01:06 PM 06/08/02 +0200, allan wrote:
>2 things to look at.
>
>http://www.bullitt.suite.dk/mod_perl_site/display/3333-i-9a.html
>
>
>1) the shade at the menu-bozes is decreased from 8px to 5px so it is not
>so dominant (and space-consuming)
I kind of like the shade. A little jazzing up would be nice (remember I
had those colorized logo suggestions?)
>2) the <pre> sections for code are here somewhat terminal looking - this
>is just an idea out of the blue (or black if you like) so take it as
>inspiration.
I've always liked the blocks on some of the perldoc converters, such as:
http://www.perldoc.com/perl5.6/pod/perlfunc.html
The black is too strong, IMO.
>please remind me why we use a nowrap tag (<pre>) for promts and code
>examples? i mean, would it be ok to wrap the text if it was clear for
>the user that the line was wrapped?
I'd rather see it nowrap. Also some browsers (Opera) will add a space
where the break is so copy-n-paste doesn't work.
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Re: [html] design fun and fun
Posted by Ask Bjoern Hansen <as...@develooper.com>.
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, allan wrote:
> 1) the shade at the menu-bozes is decreased from 8px to 5px so it is not
> so dominant (and space-consuming)
I still don't like them too much. =)
> 2) the <pre> sections for code are here somewhat terminal looking - this
> is just an idea out of the blue (or black if you like) so take it as
> inspiration. at least it associates a little bit to a prompt window. it
> doesn't handle the root/normal user debate currently.
I think it's great!
> please remind me why we use a nowrap tag (<pre>) for promts and code
> examples? i mean, would it be ok to wrap the text if it was clear for
> the user that the line was wrapped?
nah. :-/
however, we should try to always break the lines with \ so they stay
short.
- ask
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