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JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Hello people!
I'm finding that I have less and less time to maintain my open source JCR
object mapping solution, JCROM (http://jcrom.org).
Therefore I'm wondering whether there is any interest from you Jackrabbit
people to take over the code base and possibly integrate it into your
Jackrabbit OCM?
Cheers,
OGG
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by Bouiaw <bo...@gmail.com>.
Hi guys,
I have used a lot both JCR OCM solution in my Igenko project. It was
initally based on Jackrabbit OCM, et switch to JCROM.
With respect to Christophe Lombart work, JCROM is a far far far more
simpler, powerful, well design solution for JCR mapping. It outperform
Jackrabbit OCM in all domains, so switching to integrate JCROM codebase as
the new Jackrabbit OCM solution would be a key point for Jackrabbit 2.0
success.
Regards,
Bouiaw
ogg wrote:
>
> Hello people!
> I'm finding that I have less and less time to maintain my open source JCR
> object mapping solution, JCROM (http://jcrom.org).
>
> Therefore I'm wondering whether there is any interest from you Jackrabbit
> people to take over the code base and possibly integrate it into your
> Jackrabbit OCM?
>
> Cheers,
> OGG
>
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by Sten Roger Sandvik <sr...@x3m.com>.
Hi.
I also has used Jcrom for a while. Not any fancy stuff, but plain basic
mapping. It has problems, but I like the simplicity of the framework. Could
even be simpler than it is right now. Have done some minor modifications
that suites the project I used it on. I would really like to see this
project be a part of Jackrabbit. Would also contribute some effort into
fixing bugs and/or features.
Regards,
Sten Roger Sandvik
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:02 AM, papke <pa...@dig.de> wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> we also decided to use jcrom as an ocm for our new content management
> system. We think that it's a very lightweight solution to map object to a
> content repository and we welcome it if it would be integrated in the
> jackrabbit core.
>
> From our development experiences we now, that jcrom has still some problems
> in the following fields:
> - management of acls
> - transaction support
> - versioning
>
> But I think it this ocm solution would be a benefit to every jackrabbit
> user.
>
> Regards
> Christoph
>
>
> Jukka Zitting wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM, ogg<ol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm finding that I have less and less time to maintain my open source
> JCR
> >> object mapping solution, JCROM (http://jcrom.org).
> >>
> >> Therefore I'm wondering whether there is any interest from you
> Jackrabbit
> >> people to take over the code base and possibly integrate it into your
> >> Jackrabbit OCM?
> >
> > Sounds like a good idea! :-)
> >
> > However, are there JCROM users or developers who'd be willing to step
> > up to fix issues and work on new features in case you don't have time
> > to do that anymore? I'd rather not to adopt a codebase that nobody is
> > working on.
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting
> >
> >
>
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by papke <pa...@dig.de>.
Hi everybody,
we also decided to use jcrom as an ocm for our new content management
system. We think that it's a very lightweight solution to map object to a
content repository and we welcome it if it would be integrated in the
jackrabbit core.
>From our development experiences we now, that jcrom has still some problems
in the following fields:
- management of acls
- transaction support
- versioning
But I think it this ocm solution would be a benefit to every jackrabbit
user.
Regards
Christoph
Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM, ogg<ol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm finding that I have less and less time to maintain my open source JCR
>> object mapping solution, JCROM (http://jcrom.org).
>>
>> Therefore I'm wondering whether there is any interest from you Jackrabbit
>> people to take over the code base and possibly integrate it into your
>> Jackrabbit OCM?
>
> Sounds like a good idea! :-)
>
> However, are there JCROM users or developers who'd be willing to step
> up to fix issues and work on new features in case you don't have time
> to do that anymore? I'd rather not to adopt a codebase that nobody is
> working on.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
>
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by Sten Roger Sandvik <sr...@x3m.com>.
Hi.
I for one have not used OCM. It seems to complicated and I feel that I loose
control. No offence intendend :-) As for JCROM, I really like it. Have used
it for some time, but have had doubt since it has not been very well
maintained. It is simple and lightweight - just as I like it. Will be happy
to contribute to further development of JCROM or a mix between the two.
Regards,
Sten Roger Sandvik
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Christophe Lombart <
christophe.lombart@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Concerning Jackrabbit OCM,I am (unfortunately) the only committer for
> the project.
> For the moment, I have no time to work on it. That's the reason why
> the code didn't change for a long time.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong but I think it is almost the same for JCROM. In a
> such situation, it should be nice to know :
> Who are using OCM or JCROM in the Jackrabbit community ?
> Who want to contribute to OCM or JCROM (this is certainly the most
> important question ) ?
> Will we plan to keep both projects ?
>
> Christophe
>
> 2009/9/29 Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Jason Thrasher <ja...@coachthrasher.com>
> wrote:
> >> What's the status of JCROM -> Jackrabbit idea, and OCM in Jackrabbit in
> >> general? It's not clear from reading the website, or the lists.
> >
> > There seems to be general interest to bringing JCROM to Jackrabbit,
> > and so far I see nobody objecting to the idea.
> >
> > To move forward on this, we need IP clearance [1] on JCROM and a
> > Jackrabbit VOTE on accepting the codebase. I'm happy to support the
> > process for all the parts that require an ASF officer, but it would be
> > great if we had volunteers for things like filling in the IP clearance
> > template [2].
> >
> > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> > [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Jukka Zitting
> >
>
Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by Christophe Lombart <ch...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Concerning Jackrabbit OCM,I am (unfortunately) the only committer for
the project.
For the moment, I have no time to work on it. That's the reason why
the code didn't change for a long time.
Maybe I'm wrong but I think it is almost the same for JCROM. In a
such situation, it should be nice to know :
Who are using OCM or JCROM in the Jackrabbit community ?
Who want to contribute to OCM or JCROM (this is certainly the most
important question ) ?
Will we plan to keep both projects ?
Christophe
2009/9/29 Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Jason Thrasher <ja...@coachthrasher.com> wrote:
>> What's the status of JCROM -> Jackrabbit idea, and OCM in Jackrabbit in
>> general? It's not clear from reading the website, or the lists.
>
> There seems to be general interest to bringing JCROM to Jackrabbit,
> and so far I see nobody objecting to the idea.
>
> To move forward on this, we need IP clearance [1] on JCROM and a
> Jackrabbit VOTE on accepting the codebase. I'm happy to support the
> process for all the parts that require an ASF officer, but it would be
> great if we had volunteers for things like filling in the IP clearance
> template [2].
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by Decebal Suiu <de...@gmail.com>.
Jcrom is definitely good: simple, powerful with a good documentation.
Thanks,
Decebal
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by ogg <ol...@gmail.com>.
Hi people,
Sorry for the late reply, have been in Africa far from internet connection
the last few weeks...
Thanks for the kind words on JCROM. I am very interested in bringing JCROM
to Jackrabbit, to bring a better structure to the project, and hopefully get
more people involved in moving it forward.
I'm going through the current reported issues, after which I will prepare a
new release.
Please let me know how I can help in the process of moving JCROM to Apache.
Regards,
Olafur Gauti Gudmundsson
Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Jason Thrasher <ja...@coachthrasher.com>
> wrote:
>> What's the status of JCROM -> Jackrabbit idea, and OCM in Jackrabbit in
>> general? It's not clear from reading the website, or the lists.
>
> There seems to be general interest to bringing JCROM to Jackrabbit,
> and so far I see nobody objecting to the idea.
>
> To move forward on this, we need IP clearance [1] on JCROM and a
> Jackrabbit VOTE on accepting the codebase. I'm happy to support the
> process for all the parts that require an ASF officer, but it would be
> great if we had volunteers for things like filling in the IP clearance
> template [2].
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
>
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by rokham <so...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I'd like to echo the groups' voice. We've been using Jcrom for an open
source project (called RoOLO: http://code.google.com/p/roolo/) we're
building at the University of Toronto together with several universities in
Europe as well as University of Berkeley. We started using Jackrabbit/Jcrom
about a year ago and as everyone said, it's a very light weight platform but
has some kinks which will need to be ironed out.
I was evaluating OCM vs. Jcrom and chose Jcrom since it seemed more robust
back then with better documentation.
So I'd say it would be great if Jcrom was brought into Jackrabbit since I
know at least 20 or so developers who are building on top of it :)
If this integration is approved and we are seeking contributors, I might be
able to mention it to our group and see if anyone is able to contribute some
time.
Thanks a lot.
Decebal Suiu wrote:
>
> Jcrom is definitely good: simple, powerful with a good documentation.
>
> Thanks,
> Decebal
>
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Jason Thrasher <ja...@coachthrasher.com> wrote:
> What's the status of JCROM -> Jackrabbit idea, and OCM in Jackrabbit in
> general? It's not clear from reading the website, or the lists.
There seems to be general interest to bringing JCROM to Jackrabbit,
and so far I see nobody objecting to the idea.
To move forward on this, we need IP clearance [1] on JCROM and a
Jackrabbit VOTE on accepting the codebase. I'm happy to support the
process for all the parts that require an ASF officer, but it would be
great if we had volunteers for things like filling in the IP clearance
template [2].
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html
[2] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by Jason Thrasher <ja...@coachthrasher.com>.
Hi Folks,
What's the status of JCROM -> Jackrabbit idea, and OCM in Jackrabbit in
general? It's not clear from reading the website, or the lists.
I can see from the September 2009 status webpage that this JCROM integration
may seriously move forward:
http://jackrabbit.apache.org/jackrabbit-status-september-2009.html
... which is cool, but:
We're using Jackrabbit v1.5, and heavily using the OCM components therein.
Those components appear to have been removed from later releases. Is this
to make way for JCROM?
Since they've been removed, we won't be updating without substantial changes
to our content object model's classes and DAO infrastructure. Before
starting to use Jackrabbit OCM, I had evaluated JCROM's use, or rolling my
own. However, I had decided not to use JCROM because it would have added
dependencies, and complication, and spillover that I wanted to avoid.
Another dependency on a 3rd party with duplicated functionality is generally
something to be avoided. It seemed that Jackrabbit's OCM would be
sufficient. I did like JCROM's simplicity though. It's very clean.
Meanwhile the trial and error experience using Jackrabbit's lightly
documented, and mostly docuemented in code, OCM was painful, but works
solidly at the end of the day.
Insights into the roadmap for both OCM's would be very helpful.
thanks,
Jason
ogg wrote:
>
> Hi,
> That's great :)
>
> I can send out a message to the user list and see if anyone is willing to
> help out.
> I'll still have some time to work on issues and new features, but it would
> just be nice to have more people involved :)
>
> BR,
> OGG
>
>
> Jukka Zitting wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM, ogg<ol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm finding that I have less and less time to maintain my open source
>>> JCR
>>> object mapping solution, JCROM (http://jcrom.org).
>>>
>>> Therefore I'm wondering whether there is any interest from you
>>> Jackrabbit
>>> people to take over the code base and possibly integrate it into your
>>> Jackrabbit OCM?
>>
>> Sounds like a good idea! :-)
>>
>> However, are there JCROM users or developers who'd be willing to step
>> up to fix issues and work on new features in case you don't have time
>> to do that anymore? I'd rather not to adopt a codebase that nobody is
>> working on.
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Jukka Zitting
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by ogg <ol...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
That's great :)
I can send out a message to the user list and see if anyone is willing to
help out.
I'll still have some time to work on issues and new features, but it would
just be nice to have more people involved :)
BR,
OGG
Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM, ogg<ol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm finding that I have less and less time to maintain my open source JCR
>> object mapping solution, JCROM (http://jcrom.org).
>>
>> Therefore I'm wondering whether there is any interest from you Jackrabbit
>> people to take over the code base and possibly integrate it into your
>> Jackrabbit OCM?
>
> Sounds like a good idea! :-)
>
> However, are there JCROM users or developers who'd be willing to step
> up to fix issues and work on new features in case you don't have time
> to do that anymore? I'd rather not to adopt a codebase that nobody is
> working on.
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
>
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Re: JCROM and Jackrabbit OCM
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM, ogg<ol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm finding that I have less and less time to maintain my open source JCR
> object mapping solution, JCROM (http://jcrom.org).
>
> Therefore I'm wondering whether there is any interest from you Jackrabbit
> people to take over the code base and possibly integrate it into your
> Jackrabbit OCM?
Sounds like a good idea! :-)
However, are there JCROM users or developers who'd be willing to step
up to fix issues and work on new features in case you don't have time
to do that anymore? I'd rather not to adopt a codebase that nobody is
working on.
BR,
Jukka Zitting