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[jira] Created: (JSPWIKI-204) Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version

Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version
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                 Key: JSPWIKI-204
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204
             Project: JSPWiki
          Issue Type: Improvement
    Affects Versions: 2.6.1
         Environment: Debian (etch), Tomcat 5.5
            Reporter: Steve Dahl
            Priority: Minor


I couldn't find this issue in the database, and didn't want to see it get lost.

I've been having trouble with the Transclude plugin in JSPWiki 2.6.x, and the analysis to date suggests that the problem is that XML-RPC is using an outdated and incomplete XML parser.

The conversation in jspwiki-user ended more or less with this:

>> We are using an older version of Apache XML-RPC and the current
>> version (3.1) doesn't use MinML. We haven't upgraded because of
>> time constraints and not wanting to break something that isn't
>> broken. This does sound a bit broken though.

> Yup, it sounds like a very good reason for an upgrade.  Could someone please open up a task in the JIRA tracker?



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[jira] Updated: (JSPWIKI-204) Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version

Posted by "Janne Jalkanen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Janne Jalkanen updated JSPWIKI-204:
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              Assignee: Janne Jalkanen
    Remaining Estimate: 0h
     Original Estimate: 0h

Grabbing this one.

> Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JSPWIKI-204
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204
>             Project: JSPWiki
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.6.1
>         Environment: Debian (etch), Tomcat 5.5
>            Reporter: Steve Dahl
>            Assignee: Janne Jalkanen
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 3.0
>
>   Original Estimate: 0h
>  Remaining Estimate: 0h
>
> I couldn't find this issue in the database, and didn't want to see it get lost.
> I've been having trouble with the Transclude plugin in JSPWiki 2.6.x, and the analysis to date suggests that the problem is that XML-RPC is using an outdated and incomplete XML parser.
> The conversation in jspwiki-user ended more or less with this:
> >> We are using an older version of Apache XML-RPC and the current
> >> version (3.1) doesn't use MinML. We haven't upgraded because of
> >> time constraints and not wanting to break something that isn't
> >> broken. This does sound a bit broken though.
> > Yup, it sounds like a very good reason for an upgrade.  Could someone please open up a task in the JIRA tracker?

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[jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-204) Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version

Posted by "Janne Jalkanen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12598983#action_12598983 ] 

Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-204:
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Ugh.  Looking at xml-rpc 3.1, it seems that it requires no less than three .jars (assuming the client side libs can be omitted).  This is awful.

Are you sure that setting sax.driver is not sufficient?  Because if this is the only reason, we might as well stick to the old library.

> Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JSPWIKI-204
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204
>             Project: JSPWiki
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.6.1
>         Environment: Debian (etch), Tomcat 5.5
>            Reporter: Steve Dahl
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 2.8
>
>
> I couldn't find this issue in the database, and didn't want to see it get lost.
> I've been having trouble with the Transclude plugin in JSPWiki 2.6.x, and the analysis to date suggests that the problem is that XML-RPC is using an outdated and incomplete XML parser.
> The conversation in jspwiki-user ended more or less with this:
> >> We are using an older version of Apache XML-RPC and the current
> >> version (3.1) doesn't use MinML. We haven't upgraded because of
> >> time constraints and not wanting to break something that isn't
> >> broken. This does sound a bit broken though.
> > Yup, it sounds like a very good reason for an upgrade.  Could someone please open up a task in the JIRA tracker?

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[jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-204) Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version

Posted by "Kalle Kivimaa (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Kalle Kivimaa commented on JSPWIKI-204:
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An additional reason for upgrading the xml-rpc to 3.1 is that it would help in getting the JSPWiki package (back) in Debian, as that would require either having full source included in the JSPWiki source package or build-depending on only such components that are in Debian (xml-rpc is at version 3.1 in Debian).

This isn't time-critical, as there are still other dependencies missing, namely jsonrpc (should probably migrate to jabsorb, as jsonrpc isn't maintained any more), jrcs-diff, sandler and akismet, and I need to package these first (or include the source), and getting new packages into Debian at the moment is non-trivial, as the project is close to releasing the new version.

Is it really that bad to have two more jars in the lib?


> Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JSPWIKI-204
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204
>             Project: JSPWiki
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.6.1
>         Environment: Debian (etch), Tomcat 5.5
>            Reporter: Steve Dahl
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 2.8.1
>
>
> I couldn't find this issue in the database, and didn't want to see it get lost.
> I've been having trouble with the Transclude plugin in JSPWiki 2.6.x, and the analysis to date suggests that the problem is that XML-RPC is using an outdated and incomplete XML parser.
> The conversation in jspwiki-user ended more or less with this:
> >> We are using an older version of Apache XML-RPC and the current
> >> version (3.1) doesn't use MinML. We haven't upgraded because of
> >> time constraints and not wanting to break something that isn't
> >> broken. This does sound a bit broken though.
> > Yup, it sounds like a very good reason for an upgrade.  Could someone please open up a task in the JIRA tracker?

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[jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-204) Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version

Posted by "Janne Jalkanen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12587780#action_12587780 ] 

Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-204:
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Hmm... But I think you can still use a different XML parser by specifying it on the command line:

java -Dsax.driver=your.sax.driver

when starting JSPWiki... Put it in your CATALINA_OPTS or somewhere.  Does this help?

> Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JSPWIKI-204
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204
>             Project: JSPWiki
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.6.1
>         Environment: Debian (etch), Tomcat 5.5
>            Reporter: Steve Dahl
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 2.8
>
>
> I couldn't find this issue in the database, and didn't want to see it get lost.
> I've been having trouble with the Transclude plugin in JSPWiki 2.6.x, and the analysis to date suggests that the problem is that XML-RPC is using an outdated and incomplete XML parser.
> The conversation in jspwiki-user ended more or less with this:
> >> We are using an older version of Apache XML-RPC and the current
> >> version (3.1) doesn't use MinML. We haven't upgraded because of
> >> time constraints and not wanting to break something that isn't
> >> broken. This does sound a bit broken though.
> > Yup, it sounds like a very good reason for an upgrade.  Could someone please open up a task in the JIRA tracker?

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[jira] Updated: (JSPWIKI-204) Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version

Posted by "Janne Jalkanen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Janne Jalkanen updated JSPWIKI-204:
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    Fix Version/s:     (was: 2.8.1)
                   3.0

Bumped to 3.0... Lots of changes in it anyway, so we might as well do this upgrade there.

> Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JSPWIKI-204
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204
>             Project: JSPWiki
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.6.1
>         Environment: Debian (etch), Tomcat 5.5
>            Reporter: Steve Dahl
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 3.0
>
>
> I couldn't find this issue in the database, and didn't want to see it get lost.
> I've been having trouble with the Transclude plugin in JSPWiki 2.6.x, and the analysis to date suggests that the problem is that XML-RPC is using an outdated and incomplete XML parser.
> The conversation in jspwiki-user ended more or less with this:
> >> We are using an older version of Apache XML-RPC and the current
> >> version (3.1) doesn't use MinML. We haven't upgraded because of
> >> time constraints and not wanting to break something that isn't
> >> broken. This does sound a bit broken though.
> > Yup, it sounds like a very good reason for an upgrade.  Could someone please open up a task in the JIRA tracker?

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[jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-204) Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version

Posted by "Janne Jalkanen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12642096#action_12642096 ] 

Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-204:
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But I really don't know.  Is there no other possibility for the XML-RPC parser?

> Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JSPWIKI-204
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204
>             Project: JSPWiki
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.6.1
>         Environment: Debian (etch), Tomcat 5.5
>            Reporter: Steve Dahl
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 2.8.1
>
>
> I couldn't find this issue in the database, and didn't want to see it get lost.
> I've been having trouble with the Transclude plugin in JSPWiki 2.6.x, and the analysis to date suggests that the problem is that XML-RPC is using an outdated and incomplete XML parser.
> The conversation in jspwiki-user ended more or less with this:
> >> We are using an older version of Apache XML-RPC and the current
> >> version (3.1) doesn't use MinML. We haven't upgraded because of
> >> time constraints and not wanting to break something that isn't
> >> broken. This does sound a bit broken though.
> > Yup, it sounds like a very good reason for an upgrade.  Could someone please open up a task in the JIRA tracker?

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[jira] Commented: (JSPWIKI-204) Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version

Posted by "Janne Jalkanen (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12642094#action_12642094 ] 

Janne Jalkanen commented on JSPWIKI-204:
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JAR bloat is bad...  Every single new JAR will add a new dependency, also for Debian :-/.  jabsorb transition is also an item (JSPWIKI-276).

> Consider upgrading xmlrpc.jar to a more recent version
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: JSPWIKI-204
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JSPWIKI-204
>             Project: JSPWiki
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>    Affects Versions: 2.6.1
>         Environment: Debian (etch), Tomcat 5.5
>            Reporter: Steve Dahl
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 2.8.1
>
>
> I couldn't find this issue in the database, and didn't want to see it get lost.
> I've been having trouble with the Transclude plugin in JSPWiki 2.6.x, and the analysis to date suggests that the problem is that XML-RPC is using an outdated and incomplete XML parser.
> The conversation in jspwiki-user ended more or less with this:
> >> We are using an older version of Apache XML-RPC and the current
> >> version (3.1) doesn't use MinML. We haven't upgraded because of
> >> time constraints and not wanting to break something that isn't
> >> broken. This does sound a bit broken though.
> > Yup, it sounds like a very good reason for an upgrade.  Could someone please open up a task in the JIRA tracker?

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