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moderators?
Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to spread the load?
Re: moderators?
Posted by andrew <mi...@gmail.com>.
Is there nothing that I can download so that my documents can open up on my phone?
andrew miller
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ro...@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:30:02
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-----Original Message-----
From: andrew [mailto:millerandrew592@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 12:16 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: moderators?
How do I stop from getting this emails?
andrew miller
-----Original Message-----
From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:43:32
To: <de...@community.apache.org>
Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: moderators?
On 29 June 2015 at 19:15, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 29.06.2015 15:58, sebb wrote:
>> One thing to watch out for: if a moderator goes offline for a while
>> and sets up an auto-responder, then I have seen in the past that this
>> can auto-approve moderation requests.
>>
>> I don't know if it's possible to fix this;
>
> Should be.
In theory it can be done since ezmlm is open source software.
However whether or not it is easy to do is another matter entirely.
> The default reply address on moderation mails is set to accept; would
> be better, IMHO, to default to reject and make accepting require some
> extra effort instead.
I disagree.
That would make for a lot more effort by moderators.
At present moderators can use Reply to accept and Reply All to accept and allow.
Moderation is tedious enough without making it harder to do.
> -- Brane
>
>
>> I have raised
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9894
>>
>> On 27 June 2015 at 17:52, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
>> <Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> We don't want our lists to become homes for spam bots. Our moderators do an amazing job of keep our inboxes free of spam.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Stefan Reich<ma...@googlemail.com>
>>> Sent: 6/27/2015 7:57 AM
>>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: moderators?
>>>
>>> Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
>>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many
>>>> emails that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some
>>>> new blood to spread the load?
>>>>
>
RE: moderators?
Posted by "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ro...@microsoft.com>.
Send mail to unsubscribe-dev@community.apache.org
-----Original Message-----
From: andrew [mailto:millerandrew592@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 12:16 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: moderators?
How do I stop from getting this emails?
andrew miller
-----Original Message-----
From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:43:32
To: <de...@community.apache.org>
Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: moderators?
On 29 June 2015 at 19:15, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 29.06.2015 15:58, sebb wrote:
>> One thing to watch out for: if a moderator goes offline for a while
>> and sets up an auto-responder, then I have seen in the past that this
>> can auto-approve moderation requests.
>>
>> I don't know if it's possible to fix this;
>
> Should be.
In theory it can be done since ezmlm is open source software.
However whether or not it is easy to do is another matter entirely.
> The default reply address on moderation mails is set to accept; would
> be better, IMHO, to default to reject and make accepting require some
> extra effort instead.
I disagree.
That would make for a lot more effort by moderators.
At present moderators can use Reply to accept and Reply All to accept and allow.
Moderation is tedious enough without making it harder to do.
> -- Brane
>
>
>> I have raised
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9894
>>
>> On 27 June 2015 at 17:52, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
>> <Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> We don't want our lists to become homes for spam bots. Our moderators do an amazing job of keep our inboxes free of spam.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Stefan Reich<ma...@googlemail.com>
>>> Sent: 6/27/2015 7:57 AM
>>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: moderators?
>>>
>>> Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
>>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many
>>>> emails that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some
>>>> new blood to spread the load?
>>>>
>
Re: moderators?
Posted by andrew <mi...@gmail.com>.
How do I stop from getting this emails?
andrew miller
-----Original Message-----
From: sebb <se...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:43:32
To: <de...@community.apache.org>
Reply-To: dev@community.apache.org
Subject: Re: moderators?
On 29 June 2015 at 19:15, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 29.06.2015 15:58, sebb wrote:
>> One thing to watch out for: if a moderator goes offline for a while
>> and sets up an auto-responder, then I have seen in the past that this
>> can auto-approve moderation requests.
>>
>> I don't know if it's possible to fix this;
>
> Should be.
In theory it can be done since ezmlm is open source software.
However whether or not it is easy to do is another matter entirely.
> The default reply address on moderation mails is set to
> accept; would be better, IMHO, to default to reject and make accepting
> require some extra effort instead.
I disagree.
That would make for a lot more effort by moderators.
At present moderators can use Reply to accept and Reply All to accept and allow.
Moderation is tedious enough without making it harder to do.
> -- Brane
>
>
>> I have raised
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9894
>>
>> On 27 June 2015 at 17:52, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
>> <Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> We don't want our lists to become homes for spam bots. Our moderators do an amazing job of keep our inboxes free of spam.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Stefan Reich<ma...@googlemail.com>
>>> Sent: 6/27/2015 7:57 AM
>>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: moderators?
>>>
>>> Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
>>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
>>>> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
>>>> spread the load?
>>>>
>
Re: moderators?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 29 June 2015 at 19:15, Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 29.06.2015 15:58, sebb wrote:
>> One thing to watch out for: if a moderator goes offline for a while
>> and sets up an auto-responder, then I have seen in the past that this
>> can auto-approve moderation requests.
>>
>> I don't know if it's possible to fix this;
>
> Should be.
In theory it can be done since ezmlm is open source software.
However whether or not it is easy to do is another matter entirely.
> The default reply address on moderation mails is set to
> accept; would be better, IMHO, to default to reject and make accepting
> require some extra effort instead.
I disagree.
That would make for a lot more effort by moderators.
At present moderators can use Reply to accept and Reply All to accept and allow.
Moderation is tedious enough without making it harder to do.
> -- Brane
>
>
>> I have raised
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9894
>>
>> On 27 June 2015 at 17:52, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
>> <Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> We don't want our lists to become homes for spam bots. Our moderators do an amazing job of keep our inboxes free of spam.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Stefan Reich<ma...@googlemail.com>
>>> Sent: 6/27/2015 7:57 AM
>>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: moderators?
>>>
>>> Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
>>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
>>>> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
>>>> spread the load?
>>>>
>
Re: moderators?
Posted by Branko Čibej <br...@apache.org>.
On 29.06.2015 15:58, sebb wrote:
> One thing to watch out for: if a moderator goes offline for a while
> and sets up an auto-responder, then I have seen in the past that this
> can auto-approve moderation requests.
>
> I don't know if it's possible to fix this;
Should be. The default reply address on moderation mails is set to
accept; would be better, IMHO, to default to reject and make accepting
require some extra effort instead.
-- Brane
> I have raised
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9894
>
> On 27 June 2015 at 17:52, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
> <Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> We don't want our lists to become homes for spam bots. Our moderators do an amazing job of keep our inboxes free of spam.
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>> ________________________________
>> From: Stefan Reich<ma...@googlemail.com>
>> Sent: 6/27/2015 7:57 AM
>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: moderators?
>>
>> Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
>> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
>>> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
>>> spread the load?
>>>
Re: moderators?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
One thing to watch out for: if a moderator goes offline for a while
and sets up an auto-responder, then I have seen in the past that this
can auto-approve moderation requests.
I don't know if it's possible to fix this; I have raised
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9894
On 27 June 2015 at 17:52, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
<Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> We don't want our lists to become homes for spam bots. Our moderators do an amazing job of keep our inboxes free of spam.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Stefan Reich<ma...@googlemail.com>
> Sent: 6/27/2015 7:57 AM
> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: moderators?
>
> Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
> Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
>> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
>> spread the load?
>>
RE: moderators?
Posted by "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ro...@microsoft.com>.
We don't want our lists to become homes for spam bots. Our moderators do an amazing job of keep our inboxes free of spam.
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Stefan Reich<ma...@googlemail.com>
Sent: 6/27/2015 7:57 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
Subject: Re: moderators?
Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
> spread the load?
>
Re: moderators?
Posted by Stefan Reich <st...@googlemail.com>.
Maybe it's not a problem to just let stuff through.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <
Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
> spread the load?
>
RE: moderators?
Posted by "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ro...@microsoft.com>.
I've seen a number of blank emails recently. Probably probe emails.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:bdelacretaz@apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 1:45 AM
To: dev
Subject: Re: moderators?
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) <Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Who are the moderators for this list?...
I am one, I don't think I should have missed something recently. If you have specific examples of something that was missed I can have a look.
And yes, depending on how many people reply it might be good to get more moderators.
-Bertrand
Re: moderators?
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
<Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Who are the moderators for this list?...
I am one, I don't think I should have missed something recently. If
you have specific examples of something that was missed I can have a
look.
And yes, depending on how many people reply it might be good to get
more moderators.
-Bertrand
RE: moderators?
Posted by "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ro...@microsoft.com>.
Dennis just sent me a mail off list indicating that he thinks it may be a technical problem.
Let me look into this when I have more time.
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)<ma...@microsoft.com>
Sent: 6/27/2015 9:46 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
Subject: RE: moderators?
Yes. But I'm assuming it's someone rushing.
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Joe Brockmeier<ma...@zonker.net>
Sent: 6/27/2015 6:01 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
Subject: Re: moderators?
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015, at 12:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
> spread the load?
Hmm. Isn't that a problem with a moderator letting through something
they shouldn't, rather than not enough mods?
I believe I am a mod for dev@, but I haven't passed through any blank
emails.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
RE: moderators?
Posted by "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ro...@microsoft.com>.
Yes. But I'm assuming it's someone rushing.
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Joe Brockmeier<ma...@zonker.net>
Sent: 6/27/2015 6:01 AM
To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
Subject: Re: moderators?
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015, at 12:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
> spread the load?
Hmm. Isn't that a problem with a moderator letting through something
they shouldn't, rather than not enough mods?
I believe I am a mod for dev@, but I haven't passed through any blank
emails.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
Re: moderators?
Posted by Joe Brockmeier <jz...@zonker.net>.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015, at 12:06 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
> Who are the moderators for this list? We seem to be getting many emails
> that should not be getting through. Do we need to find some new blood to
> spread the load?
Hmm. Isn't that a problem with a moderator letting through something
they shouldn't, rather than not enough mods?
I believe I am a mod for dev@, but I haven't passed through any blank
emails.
Best,
jzb
--
Joe Brockmeier
jzb@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/