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Posted to dev@solr.apache.org by Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com> on 2021/11/15 15:42:05 UTC
[VOTE] SIP-15 Node roles
Hi Devs and Users,
SIP-15 for first class support of node roles has been proposed.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
The link contains a PDF file containing the discussion thread (since the
Pony mail thread links broke). The discussion happened in
dev@solr.apache.org list.
To bring up any points worth discussing, please use the dev@solr.apache.org
list (instead of using this thread) and find the thread with subject "First
class support for node roles" there.
Please vote on the proposal. Vote closes in 72 hours from now.
Here's my +1
Thanks,
Ishan / Noble / Hitesh
Re: [VOTE] SIP-15 Node roles
Posted by Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>.
Oh, thanks for pointing that out, Cassandra. Really appreciate it. I had
some confusion on the process around votes and lazy consensus (since this
is perhaps the only SIP that reached a voting thread and I didn't have any
precedence to go by).
This vote has actually failed. I'll move the status back to DISCUSS and
re-initiate another voting, if needed.
Regards,
Ishan
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:21 AM Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I don’t want to start a fight here but the SIP process [1] doesn’t say
> anything about a vote passing by lazy consensus. It offers 2 options, lazy
> consensus via no further discussed objections OR a vote that must have 3
> binding +1s:
>
> ---
> 5. When feedback iteration trails off on the DISCUSS thread, move to
> either adopt the proposal. To do this you can either:
> > quote_type
> >
> > a. rely on lazy consensus - announce your intention to proceed with the
> SIP as written unless there are any further objections, then wait 3
> business days for readers to object or request an explicit VOTE instead.
> >
> > b. Alternatively, you can jump right to calling a formal VOTE. Create a
> VOTE thread that points readers to your proposal and ask for votes. The
> criteria for acceptance is consensus (3 binding +1 votes and no binding
> vetoes). Once a VOTE thread is created, add a link to the table below so
> the outcome can be tracked clearly.
> ---
>
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Solr+Improvement+Proposals#SolrImprovementProposals-Process
>
> Cassandra
> On Nov 18, 2021, 10:17 AM -0600, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com>, wrote:
> > This SIP passes (mainly by lazy consensus) and we can now proceed to the
> implementation phase.
> > Thanks to all who voted.
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 9:12 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Devs and Users,
> > > >
> > > > SIP-15 for first class support of node roles has been proposed.
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
> > > >
> > > > The link contains a PDF file containing the discussion thread (since
> the Pony mail thread links broke). The discussion happened in
> dev@solr.apache.org list.
> > > >
> > > > To bring up any points worth discussing, please use the
> dev@solr.apache.org list (instead of using this thread) and find the
> thread with subject "First class support for node roles" there.
> > > >
> > > > Please vote on the proposal. Vote closes in 72 hours from now.
> > > >
> > > > Here's my +1
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ishan / Noble / Hitesh
>
Re: [VOTE] SIP-15 Node roles
Posted by Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>.
Oh, thanks for pointing that out, Cassandra. Really appreciate it. I had
some confusion on the process around votes and lazy consensus (since this
is perhaps the only SIP that reached a voting thread and I didn't have any
precedence to go by).
This vote has actually failed. I'll move the status back to DISCUSS and
re-initiate another voting, if needed.
Regards,
Ishan
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:21 AM Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I don’t want to start a fight here but the SIP process [1] doesn’t say
> anything about a vote passing by lazy consensus. It offers 2 options, lazy
> consensus via no further discussed objections OR a vote that must have 3
> binding +1s:
>
> ---
> 5. When feedback iteration trails off on the DISCUSS thread, move to
> either adopt the proposal. To do this you can either:
> > quote_type
> >
> > a. rely on lazy consensus - announce your intention to proceed with the
> SIP as written unless there are any further objections, then wait 3
> business days for readers to object or request an explicit VOTE instead.
> >
> > b. Alternatively, you can jump right to calling a formal VOTE. Create a
> VOTE thread that points readers to your proposal and ask for votes. The
> criteria for acceptance is consensus (3 binding +1 votes and no binding
> vetoes). Once a VOTE thread is created, add a link to the table below so
> the outcome can be tracked clearly.
> ---
>
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Solr+Improvement+Proposals#SolrImprovementProposals-Process
>
> Cassandra
> On Nov 18, 2021, 10:17 AM -0600, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com>, wrote:
> > This SIP passes (mainly by lazy consensus) and we can now proceed to the
> implementation phase.
> > Thanks to all who voted.
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 9:12 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Devs and Users,
> > > >
> > > > SIP-15 for first class support of node roles has been proposed.
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
> > > >
> > > > The link contains a PDF file containing the discussion thread (since
> the Pony mail thread links broke). The discussion happened in
> dev@solr.apache.org list.
> > > >
> > > > To bring up any points worth discussing, please use the
> dev@solr.apache.org list (instead of using this thread) and find the
> thread with subject "First class support for node roles" there.
> > > >
> > > > Please vote on the proposal. Vote closes in 72 hours from now.
> > > >
> > > > Here's my +1
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ishan / Noble / Hitesh
>
Re: [VOTE] SIP-15 Node roles
Posted by Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>.
I don’t want to start a fight here but the SIP process [1] doesn’t say anything about a vote passing by lazy consensus. It offers 2 options, lazy consensus via no further discussed objections OR a vote that must have 3 binding +1s:
---
5. When feedback iteration trails off on the DISCUSS thread, move to either adopt the proposal. To do this you can either:
> quote_type
>
> a. rely on lazy consensus - announce your intention to proceed with the SIP as written unless there are any further objections, then wait 3 business days for readers to object or request an explicit VOTE instead.
>
> b. Alternatively, you can jump right to calling a formal VOTE. Create a VOTE thread that points readers to your proposal and ask for votes. The criteria for acceptance is consensus (3 binding +1 votes and no binding vetoes). Once a VOTE thread is created, add a link to the table below so the outcome can be tracked clearly.
---
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Solr+Improvement+Proposals#SolrImprovementProposals-Process
Cassandra
On Nov 18, 2021, 10:17 AM -0600, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>, wrote:
> This SIP passes (mainly by lazy consensus) and we can now proceed to the implementation phase.
> Thanks to all who voted.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 9:12 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Devs and Users,
> > >
> > > SIP-15 for first class support of node roles has been proposed.
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
> > >
> > > The link contains a PDF file containing the discussion thread (since the Pony mail thread links broke). The discussion happened in dev@solr.apache.org list.
> > >
> > > To bring up any points worth discussing, please use the dev@solr.apache.org list (instead of using this thread) and find the thread with subject "First class support for node roles" there.
> > >
> > > Please vote on the proposal. Vote closes in 72 hours from now.
> > >
> > > Here's my +1
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ishan / Noble / Hitesh
Re: [VOTE] SIP-15 Node roles
Posted by Cassandra Targett <ca...@gmail.com>.
I don’t want to start a fight here but the SIP process [1] doesn’t say anything about a vote passing by lazy consensus. It offers 2 options, lazy consensus via no further discussed objections OR a vote that must have 3 binding +1s:
---
5. When feedback iteration trails off on the DISCUSS thread, move to either adopt the proposal. To do this you can either:
> quote_type
>
> a. rely on lazy consensus - announce your intention to proceed with the SIP as written unless there are any further objections, then wait 3 business days for readers to object or request an explicit VOTE instead.
>
> b. Alternatively, you can jump right to calling a formal VOTE. Create a VOTE thread that points readers to your proposal and ask for votes. The criteria for acceptance is consensus (3 binding +1 votes and no binding vetoes). Once a VOTE thread is created, add a link to the table below so the outcome can be tracked clearly.
---
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/Solr+Improvement+Proposals#SolrImprovementProposals-Process
Cassandra
On Nov 18, 2021, 10:17 AM -0600, Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>, wrote:
> This SIP passes (mainly by lazy consensus) and we can now proceed to the implementation phase.
> Thanks to all who voted.
>
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 9:12 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Devs and Users,
> > >
> > > SIP-15 for first class support of node roles has been proposed.
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
> > >
> > > The link contains a PDF file containing the discussion thread (since the Pony mail thread links broke). The discussion happened in dev@solr.apache.org list.
> > >
> > > To bring up any points worth discussing, please use the dev@solr.apache.org list (instead of using this thread) and find the thread with subject "First class support for node roles" there.
> > >
> > > Please vote on the proposal. Vote closes in 72 hours from now.
> > >
> > > Here's my +1
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ishan / Noble / Hitesh
Re: [VOTE] SIP-15 Node roles
Posted by Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>.
This SIP passes (mainly by lazy consensus) and we can now proceed to the
implementation phase.
Thanks to all who voted.
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 9:12 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Devs and Users,
>
> SIP-15 for first class support of node roles has been proposed.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
>
> The link contains a PDF file containing the discussion thread (since the
> Pony mail thread links broke). The discussion happened in
> dev@solr.apache.org list.
>
> To bring up any points worth discussing, please use the
> dev@solr.apache.org list (instead of using this thread) and find the
> thread with subject "First class support for node roles" there.
>
> Please vote on the proposal. Vote closes in 72 hours from now.
>
> Here's my +1
>
> Thanks,
> Ishan / Noble / Hitesh
>
Re: [VOTE] SIP-15 Node roles
Posted by Ishan Chattopadhyaya <ic...@gmail.com>.
This SIP passes (mainly by lazy consensus) and we can now proceed to the
implementation phase.
Thanks to all who voted.
On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 9:12 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
ichattopadhyaya@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Devs and Users,
>
> SIP-15 for first class support of node roles has been proposed.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SIP-15+Node+roles
>
> The link contains a PDF file containing the discussion thread (since the
> Pony mail thread links broke). The discussion happened in
> dev@solr.apache.org list.
>
> To bring up any points worth discussing, please use the
> dev@solr.apache.org list (instead of using this thread) and find the
> thread with subject "First class support for node roles" there.
>
> Please vote on the proposal. Vote closes in 72 hours from now.
>
> Here's my +1
>
> Thanks,
> Ishan / Noble / Hitesh
>