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Posted to dev@spamassassin.apache.org by bu...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org on 2006/10/24 17:43:59 UTC

[Bug 5146] New: Move language-specific rulesets out of SpamAssassin distribution

http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5146

           Summary: Move language-specific rulesets out of SpamAssassin
                    distribution
           Product: Spamassassin
           Version: SVN Trunk (Latest Devel Version)
          Platform: Other
        OS/Version: other
            Status: NEW
          Severity: normal
          Priority: P5
         Component: Rules
        AssignedTo: dev@spamassassin.apache.org
        ReportedBy: jm@jmason.org


We currently distribute 25_body_tests_es.cf and 25_body_tests_pl.cf --
two contributed rulesets for Spanish-language and Polish-language
spam respectively.

However, we have no way to QA these rules, or determine if their scores
make sense, because we just don't have enough mail (ham *or* spam) to
measure them.

I suggest we break them out into entries on
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets , and remove them
from the core distribution.  Now that we have sa-update, RDJ, etc.,
there's really no need for them to be in-core, and I think it'd
be better that way.

comments?



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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5146





------- Additional Comments From spamassassin@dostech.ca  2006-11-27 19:27 -------
+1 on moving what looks useful to the CustomRulesets page and just dropping
anything that looks to be no-longer useful.  With no way to ensure the quality
of non-English rules, we're better off without them.



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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5146


felicity@apache.org changed:

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[Bug 5146] remove rule description translations out of SpamAssassin distribution

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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5146


jm@jmason.org changed:

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           Priority|P4                          |P5






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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5146





------- Additional Comments From felicity@apache.org  2006-11-27 13:41 -------
Yeah, I'm actually +1 on removing all language specific rulesets out, even the
rule description translations.  We generally don't have any way to keep up with
this stuff, so I'd rather just remove it for now.

If down the road we get people who really want to work on a specific language
version, we can always add it in via the rules project w/ a language-specific
channel or something.



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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5146


jm@jmason.org changed:

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           Severity|normal                      |blocker
           Priority|P5                          |P1




------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2006-11-02 15:30 -------
marking this as a release blocker, at least until we get some thoughts



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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5146


jm@jmason.org changed:

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           Severity|normal                      |minor
           Priority|P1                          |P4




------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2007-01-05 05:14 -------
I've just gone through the dependency bugs -- all were either FIXED or
WORKSFORME at this stage.  that removes the urgency, really.

does anyone want to do this for 3.2.0?  (let's move it off the milestone otherwise.)



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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2006-12-03 13:24 -------
oops, I think I posted a follow-on comment by mail :(  (we really should allow that)

'Yeah, I'm actually +1 on removing all language specific rulesets out, even the
rule description translations.  We generally don't have any way to keep up with
this stuff, so I'd rather just remove it for now.'

I'd actually like to keep a small subset of infrequently-changing translation
data -- ie. just the report text, but not the (frequently-changing) rule
descriptions.



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jm@jmason.org changed:

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   Target Milestone|3.2.0                       |3.3.0




------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2007-02-21 12:05 -------
pushing out to 3.3.0, since I don't think it's a 3.2.0 blocker. shout (or change
the milestone) if you disagree....



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jm@jmason.org changed:

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            Summary|Move language-specific      |remove rule description
                   |rulesets out of SpamAssassin|translations out of
                   |distribution                |SpamAssassin distribution




------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2006-12-11 04:09 -------
updating description to match current status



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jm@jmason.org changed:

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   Target Milestone|Undefined                   |3.2.0




------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2006-10-24 08:44 -------
should think about this for 3.2



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jm@jmason.org changed:

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           Severity|blocker                     |normal




------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org  2006-12-06 05:50 -------
OK, I've moved 25_body_tests_pl.cf out onto a CustomRulesets page.

25_body_tests_es.cf, I can find no sign of!  looks like we lost it somewhere
along the way ;)

Regarding the descriptions -- to be honest I'm happy to leave it as it is, with
some rules described in foreign langs and some not.  I think that situation is OK.
(Ideally I'd like more descriptions in other languages but if we can't get em,
c'est la vie, and something is better than nothing.)

anyway, reducing priority -- the 25_body_tests_pl.cf/25_body_tests_es.cf issue
was  what I really wanted to deal with urgently.



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