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cvs commit: xml-forrest/etc DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
jefft 2002/11/19 23:41:11
Added: etc DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
Log:
A file listing issues with the DTDs
Revision Changes Path
1.1 xml-forrest/etc/DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
Index: DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
===================================================================
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DTD Deficiencies
----------------
A collection of DTD 'deficiencies' that people have encountered, and would like
either fixed or a reason for non-fixing given.
Please read through, and add your user id to 'yea' or 'nay' to indicate your
support or dissent. Dissent should be accompanied with a reason.
1) Allow links in titles
------------------------
Submittor: Ken Coar <20...@Hydrogen.MeepZor.Com>
Date: 2002-11-18
Yeas: jefft
Nays:
Summary:
Allow things like:
<title><link href="foo">title-text</link></title>
2) Allow <br/> in titles
------------------------
Submittor: Diana Shannon <17...@apache.org>
Date: 2002-11-19
Yeas: jefft
Nays:
Summary:
"And while you're at it, **please** consider adding <br /> to <title>. And
don't flame me. I know some may abuse it, but this is a common need in
print-publishing (to add manual, readable breaks to certain types of
titles/subheads). I'd want to use it -- judiciously -- for pdf files and a
limited amount in html files."
3) Allow <p>'s inside <li>
--------------------------
Submittor: Jeff Turner
Date: 2002-11-20
Yeas: jefft
Nays:
Summary:
Often it it would be useful to have multiple paragraphs inside a list item:
<ul>
<li>
<p> ... </p>
<p> ... </p>
<p> ... </p>
</li>
</ul>
I can see no reason why being a "list item" implies being limited to a single
paragraph.
4) Allow <ol> and <ul> inside <p>
---------------------------------
Submittor: Jeff Turner
Date: 2002-11-20
Yeas: jefft
Nays:
Summary:
Frequently I find myself wanting to create lists halfway through a paragraph:
<p>
Here are some main features:
<ul>
<li>...</li>
<li>...</li>
</ul>
These features ...
</p>
Currently this is not allowed, as <ul> cannot be contained within <p>
According to that font of wisdom, dictionary.com, a paragraph is
"one of several distinct subdivisions of a text intended to separate ideas"
and
"typically deals with a single thought or topic"
I think a single idea may validly be expressed with an unordered list, as
above, and thus <ul> should be allowed within <p>
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$Revision: 1.1 $ $Date: 2002/11/20 07:41:11 $
Re: cvs commit: xml-forrest/etc DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
Steven Noels wrote:
> Jeff Turner wrote:
>
> > I don't really mind.. I didn't use Jira because this doc needs to be
> > edited, not just appended to. I didn't use status.xml because all
> > the pointy tags get annoying.
Ha. pointy ;-)
> We just invented a new term: issue tracking Darwinism :-)
>
> (I don't mind having lots of them neither, but maybe it will confuse
> some willing contributors. How about moving them to Jira - there's a
> category especially for them. I can do this next week if no-one objects)
Actually, I don't see much overlap:
- Jira is for issues or todos, or patches
- status is for describing "formal" community and design decisions
- documents are where the actual design is done
2c...
--
Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org
- verba volant, scripta manent -
(discussions get forgotten, just code remains)
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Re: cvs commit: xml-forrest/etc DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
Jeff Turner wrote:
> I don't really mind.. I didn't use Jira because this doc needs to be
> edited, not just appended to. I didn't use status.xml because all
> the pointy tags get annoying.
We just invented a new term: issue tracking Darwinism :-)
(I don't mind having lots of them neither, but maybe it will confuse
some willing contributors. How about moving them to Jira - there's a
category especially for them. I can do this next week if no-one objects)
</Steven>
--
Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
Re: cvs commit: xml-forrest/etc DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:14:20PM +0100, Steven Noels wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
>
> >By the way, Forresteers ... this document is not just
> >for committers. Send your patches and other issues.
> >Great idea, Jeff.
> >--David
>
> Finally some todo list created for me :-)
>
> Just a doubt: we have now have this list, Jira (I'm adding it as a link
> to the site), CVS and our common memory to keep track of 'issues'.
And status.xml.
> How are we going to proceed?
I don't really mind.. I didn't use Jira because this doc needs to be
edited, not just appended to. I didn't use status.xml because all the
pointy tags get annoying.
--Jeff
>
> </Steven>
Re: cvs commit: xml-forrest/etc DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
Posted by Steven Noels <st...@outerthought.org>.
David Crossley wrote:
> By the way, Forresteers ... this document is not just
> for committers. Send your patches and other issues.
> Great idea, Jeff.
> --David
Finally some todo list created for me :-)
Just a doubt: we have now have this list, Jira (I'm adding it as a link
to the site), CVS and our common memory to keep track of 'issues'.
How are we going to proceed?
</Steven>
--
Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
Read my weblog at http://radio.weblogs.com/0103539/
stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org
Re: cvs commit: xml-forrest/etc DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
Posted by David Crossley <cr...@indexgeo.com.au>.
By the way, Forresteers ... this document is not just
for committers. Send your patches and other issues.
Great idea, Jeff.
--David
jefft@apache.org wrote:
> jefft 2002/11/19 23:41:11
>
> Added: etc DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
> Log:
> A file listing issues with the DTDs
>
> Revision Changes Path
> 1.1 xml-forrest/etc/DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
>
> Index: DTD_DEFICIENCIES.txt
> ===================================================================
> ----------------
> DTD Deficiencies
> ----------------
>
> A collection of DTD 'deficiencies' that people have encountered, and would like
> either fixed or a reason for non-fixing given.
>
> Please read through, and add your user id to 'yea' or 'nay' to indicate your
> support or dissent. Dissent should be accompanied with a reason.
>
>
>
> 1) Allow links in titles
> ------------------------
> Submittor: Ken Coar <20...@Hydrogen.MeepZor.Com>
> Date: 2002-11-18
> Yeas: jefft
> Nays:
> Summary:
>
> Allow things like:
>
> <title><link href="foo">title-text</link></title>
>
>
> 2) Allow <br/> in titles
> ------------------------
> Submittor: Diana Shannon <17...@apache.org>
> Date: 2002-11-19
> Yeas: jefft
> Nays:
> Summary:
>
> "And while you're at it, **please** consider adding <br /> to <title>. And
> don't flame me. I know some may abuse it, but this is a common need in
> print-publishing (to add manual, readable breaks to certain types of
> titles/subheads). I'd want to use it -- judiciously -- for pdf files and a
> limited amount in html files."
>
>
> 3) Allow <p>'s inside <li>
> --------------------------
> Submittor: Jeff Turner
> Date: 2002-11-20
> Yeas: jefft
> Nays:
> Summary:
>
> Often it it would be useful to have multiple paragraphs inside a list item:
>
> <ul>
> <li>
> <p> ... </p>
> <p> ... </p>
> <p> ... </p>
> </li>
> </ul>
>
> I can see no reason why being a "list item" implies being limited to a single
> paragraph.
>
>
> 4) Allow <ol> and <ul> inside <p>
> ---------------------------------
> Submittor: Jeff Turner
> Date: 2002-11-20
> Yeas: jefft
> Nays:
> Summary:
>
> Frequently I find myself wanting to create lists halfway through a paragraph:
>
> <p>
> Here are some main features:
> <ul>
> <li>...</li>
> <li>...</li>
> </ul>
> These features ...
> </p>
>
> Currently this is not allowed, as <ul> cannot be contained within <p>
>
> According to that font of wisdom, dictionary.com, a paragraph is
> "one of several distinct subdivisions of a text intended to separate ideas"
> and
> "typically deals with a single thought or topic"
>
> I think a single idea may validly be expressed with an unordered list, as
> above, and thus <ul> should be allowed within <p>
>
> --
> $Revision: 1.1 $ $Date: 2002/11/20 07:41:11 $
>
>
>