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Posted to dev@couchdb.apache.org by Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> on 2015/02/18 14:34:18 UTC
[DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Hey all,
I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant it’s own space :)
I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
Best
Jan
--
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Johannes Jörg Schmidt <sc...@netzmerk.com>.
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+1
On 14.04.2015 20:59, Robert Kowalski wrote:
> +1
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Kyle Snavely <kj...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> +1 to Jan's idea -- I love seeing all the dev discussion but my
>> inbox is exploding due to our wonderful fauxton work.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Garren Smith
>> <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> +1, I think thats a great idea.
>>>
>>>> On 14 Apr 2015, at 4:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all your feedback!
>>>>
>>>> How about this:
>>>>
>>>> We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your
>>>> favourite
>>> bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
>>>>
>>>> dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code
>>>> projects
>>> (including Fauxton).
>>>>
>>>> If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign
>>>> up for
>> code@
>>> .
>>>>
>>>> There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA
>>>> and dev@,
>>> but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably
>>> bulk-delete
>> all
>>> JIRA mails anyway :)
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Best Jan --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:41, Robert Kowalski <ro...@kowalski.gd>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the cross-pollunation between the dev-topics, e.g.
>>>>> when we announced / suggested coding style guidelines, I
>>>>> would like to keep that at the main dev-list
>>>>>
>>>>> I also think the amount of git-commit-mails and Jira stuff
>>>>> is floody.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we just move the Jira and git-commit stuff to an own
>>>>> mailing list?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Andy Wenk
>>>>> <an...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> On 18 February 2015 at 15:15, Jan Lehnardt
>>>>>> <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:12, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at
>>>>>>>> dev@. So I am wondering what the intention is to
>>>>>>>> split technical discussions
>>> further.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>> saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for
>>>>>>>> developing on
>>>>>>> CouchDB.
>>>>>>>> The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because
>>>>>>>> it is a
>>> complete
>>>>>>>> different topic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is mostly about the git notifications, they are
>>>>>>> significant :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ok fair point ... I just have the fear, that the
>>>>>> participation will decrease because of yet another ML a
>>>>>> developer has to subscribe to.
>>> But we
>>>>>> can inform every one appropriately ... so let's go for it
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unless I am missing something essential like to much
>>>>>>>> different
>>> topics in
>>>>>>>> one list, I would leave it at dev@.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith
>>>>>>>> <ga...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 that is a good idea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt
>>>>>>>>>> <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the
>>>>>>>>>> Fauxton team their
>> own
>>>>>>>>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub
>>>>>>>>> notifications?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating
>>>>>>>>>> enough traffic to
>>> warrant
>>>>>>>>> it’s own space :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best Jan --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>>>>>>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D
>>>>>>>> 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
- --
>>>>>> Andy Wenk Hamburg - Germany RockIt!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3
>>>>>> 9ED3 9588
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>>
>>>> -- Professional Support for Apache CouchDB:
>>>> http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Robert Kowalski <ro...@kowalski.gd>.
+1
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Kyle Snavely <kj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 to Jan's idea -- I love seeing all the dev discussion but my inbox is
> exploding due to our wonderful fauxton work.
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > +1, I think thats a great idea.
> >
> > > On 14 Apr 2015, at 4:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your feedback!
> > >
> > > How about this:
> > >
> > > We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your favourite
> > bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
> > >
> > > dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code projects
> > (including Fauxton).
> > >
> > > If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign up for
> code@
> > .
> > >
> > > There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA and dev@,
> > but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably bulk-delete
> all
> > JIRA mails anyway :)
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Best
> > > Jan
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:41, Robert Kowalski <ro...@kowalski.gd> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I like the cross-pollunation between the dev-topics, e.g. when we
> > >> announced / suggested coding style guidelines, I would like to keep
> > >> that at the main dev-list
> > >>
> > >> I also think the amount of git-commit-mails and Jira stuff is floody.
> > >>
> > >> Can we just move the Jira and git-commit stuff to an own mailing list?
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>> On 18 February 2015 at 15:15, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:12, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Jan,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at dev@. So I am
> > >>>>> wondering what the intention is to split technical discussions
> > further.
> > >>>> We
> > >>>>> saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for developing on
> > >>>> CouchDB.
> > >>>>> The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because it is a
> > complete
> > >>>>> different topic.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is mostly about the git notifications, they are significant :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ok fair point ... I just have the fear, that the participation will
> > >>> decrease because of yet another ML a developer has to subscribe to.
> > But we
> > >>> can inform every one appropriately ... so let's go for it ...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Unless I am missing something essential like to much different
> > topics in
> > >>>>> one list, I would leave it at dev@.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Andy
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> +1 that is a good idea.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hey all,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their
> own
> > >>>>>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
> > warrant
> > >>>>>> it’s own space :)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Best
> > >>>>>>> Jan
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Andy Wenk
> > >>>>> Hamburg - Germany
> > >>>>> RockIt!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> > >>>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Andy Wenk
> > >>> Hamburg - Germany
> > >>> RockIt!
> > >>>
> > >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> > >>>
> > >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
> > >
> > > --
> > > Professional Support for Apache CouchDB:
> > > http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
> > >
> >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Kyle Snavely <kj...@gmail.com>.
+1 to Jan's idea -- I love seeing all the dev discussion but my inbox is
exploding due to our wonderful fauxton work.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1, I think thats a great idea.
>
> > On 14 Apr 2015, at 4:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for all your feedback!
> >
> > How about this:
> >
> > We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your favourite
> bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
> >
> > dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code projects
> (including Fauxton).
> >
> > If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign up for code@
> .
> >
> > There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA and dev@,
> but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably bulk-delete all
> JIRA mails anyway :)
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Best
> > Jan
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:41, Robert Kowalski <ro...@kowalski.gd> wrote:
> >>
> >> I like the cross-pollunation between the dev-topics, e.g. when we
> >> announced / suggested coding style guidelines, I would like to keep
> >> that at the main dev-list
> >>
> >> I also think the amount of git-commit-mails and Jira stuff is floody.
> >>
> >> Can we just move the Jira and git-commit stuff to an own mailing list?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> On 18 February 2015 at 15:15, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:12, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Jan,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at dev@. So I am
> >>>>> wondering what the intention is to split technical discussions
> further.
> >>>> We
> >>>>> saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for developing on
> >>>> CouchDB.
> >>>>> The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because it is a
> complete
> >>>>> different topic.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is mostly about the git notifications, they are significant :)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> ok fair point ... I just have the fear, that the participation will
> >>> decrease because of yet another ML a developer has to subscribe to.
> But we
> >>> can inform every one appropriately ... so let's go for it ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unless I am missing something essential like to much different
> topics in
> >>>>> one list, I would leave it at dev@.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Andy
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> +1 that is a good idea.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hey all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
> >>>>>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
> warrant
> >>>>>> it’s own space :)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best
> >>>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Andy Wenk
> >>>>> Hamburg - Germany
> >>>>> RockIt!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> >>>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
> >>>>>
> >>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andy Wenk
> >>> Hamburg - Germany
> >>> RockIt!
> >>>
> >>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> >>>
> >>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
> >
> > --
> > Professional Support for Apache CouchDB:
> > http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
> >
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org>.
+1, I think thats a great idea.
> On 14 Apr 2015, at 4:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all your feedback!
>
> How about this:
>
> We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your favourite bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
>
> dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code projects (including Fauxton).
>
> If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign up for code@.
>
> There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA and dev@, but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably bulk-delete all JIRA mails anyway :)
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best
> Jan
> --
>
>
>
>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:41, Robert Kowalski <ro...@kowalski.gd> wrote:
>>
>> I like the cross-pollunation between the dev-topics, e.g. when we
>> announced / suggested coding style guidelines, I would like to keep
>> that at the main dev-list
>>
>> I also think the amount of git-commit-mails and Jira stuff is floody.
>>
>> Can we just move the Jira and git-commit stuff to an own mailing list?
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> On 18 February 2015 at 15:15, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:12, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at dev@. So I am
>>>>> wondering what the intention is to split technical discussions further.
>>>> We
>>>>> saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for developing on
>>>> CouchDB.
>>>>> The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because it is a complete
>>>>> different topic.
>>>>
>>>> This is mostly about the git notifications, they are significant :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> ok fair point ... I just have the fear, that the participation will
>>> decrease because of yet another ML a developer has to subscribe to. But we
>>> can inform every one appropriately ... so let's go for it ...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless I am missing something essential like to much different topics in
>>>>> one list, I would leave it at dev@.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 that is a good idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
>>>>>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
>>>>>> it’s own space :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>>> RockIt!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>>>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>>>>>
>>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>>>
>>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andy Wenk
>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>> RockIt!
>>>
>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>
>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>
> --
> Professional Support for Apache CouchDB:
> http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Russell Branca <ch...@apache.org>.
+1
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Paul J Davis <pa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> +1
>
>
>
> > On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> >> On 14 April 2015 at 21:02, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>> We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your favourite
> >> bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
> >>>
> >>> dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code projects
> >> (including Fauxton).
> >>>
> >>> If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign up for
> code@
> >> .
> >>>
> >>> There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA and dev@,
> >> but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably bulk-delete
> all
> >> JIRA mails anyway :)
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ,,,^..^,,,
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy Wenk
> > Hamburg - Germany
> > RockIt!
> >
> > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> >
> > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Paul J Davis <pa...@gmail.com>.
+1
> On Apr 14, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> +1
>
>> On 14 April 2015 at 21:02, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your favourite
>> bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
>>>
>>> dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code projects
>> (including Fauxton).
>>>
>>> If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign up for code@
>> .
>>>
>>> There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA and dev@,
>> but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably bulk-delete all
>> JIRA mails anyway :)
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> --
>> ,,,^..^,,,
>
>
>
> --
> Andy Wenk
> Hamburg - Germany
> RockIt!
>
> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>
> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org>.
+1
On 14 April 2015 at 21:02, Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your favourite
> bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
> >
> > dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code projects
> (including Fauxton).
> >
> > If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign up for code@
> .
> >
> > There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA and dev@,
> but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably bulk-delete all
> JIRA mails anyway :)
>
> +1
>
>
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
>
--
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!
GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your favourite bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
>
> dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code projects (including Fauxton).
>
> If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign up for code@.
>
> There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA and dev@, but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably bulk-delete all JIRA mails anyway :)
+1
--
,,,^..^,,,
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org>.
Thanks for all your feedback!
How about this:
We create new mailing list code@couchdb.apache.org (or your favourite bike shed) that gets all JIRA and GitHub traffic.
dev@ then is for discussion and decisions for all code projects (including Fauxton).
If you want to keep track of tickets and pull requests, sign up for code@.
There is a bit of a discrepancy between discussions in JIRA and dev@, but I’m willing to take that risk, as most people probably bulk-delete all JIRA mails anyway :)
What do you think?
Best
Jan
--
> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:41, Robert Kowalski <ro...@kowalski.gd> wrote:
>
> I like the cross-pollunation between the dev-topics, e.g. when we
> announced / suggested coding style guidelines, I would like to keep
> that at the main dev-list
>
> I also think the amount of git-commit-mails and Jira stuff is floody.
>
> Can we just move the Jira and git-commit stuff to an own mailing list?
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 18 February 2015 at 15:15, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:12, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Jan,
>>>>
>>>> I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at dev@. So I am
>>>> wondering what the intention is to split technical discussions further.
>>> We
>>>> saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for developing on
>>> CouchDB.
>>>> The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because it is a complete
>>>> different topic.
>>>
>>> This is mostly about the git notifications, they are significant :)
>>>
>>
>> ok fair point ... I just have the fear, that the participation will
>> decrease because of yet another ML a developer has to subscribe to. But we
>> can inform every one appropriately ... so let's go for it ...
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Unless I am missing something essential like to much different topics in
>>>> one list, I would leave it at dev@.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>> On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 that is a good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
>>>>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
>>>>> it’s own space :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andy Wenk
>>>> Hamburg - Germany
>>>> RockIt!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>>>> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>>>>
>>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>>>>
>>>> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andy Wenk
>> Hamburg - Germany
>> RockIt!
>>
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>>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Robert Kowalski <ro...@kowalski.gd>.
I like the cross-pollunation between the dev-topics, e.g. when we
announced / suggested coding style guidelines, I would like to keep
that at the main dev-list
I also think the amount of git-commit-mails and Jira stuff is floody.
Can we just move the Jira and git-commit stuff to an own mailing list?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 18 February 2015 at 15:15, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:12, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Jan,
>> >
>> > I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at dev@. So I am
>> > wondering what the intention is to split technical discussions further.
>> We
>> > saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for developing on
>> CouchDB.
>> > The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because it is a complete
>> > different topic.
>>
>> This is mostly about the git notifications, they are significant :)
>>
>
> ok fair point ... I just have the fear, that the participation will
> decrease because of yet another ML a developer has to subscribe to. But we
> can inform every one appropriately ... so let's go for it ...
>
>
>> >
>> > Unless I am missing something essential like to much different topics in
>> > one list, I would leave it at dev@.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> > On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1 that is a good idea.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
>> >> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>> >>>
>> >>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
>> >> it’s own space :)
>> >>>
>> >>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>> >>>
>> >>> Best
>> >>> Jan
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andy Wenk
>> > Hamburg - Germany
>> > RockIt!
>> >
>> > http://www.couchdb-buch.de
>> > http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>> >
>> > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>> >
>> > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Andy Wenk
> Hamburg - Germany
> RockIt!
>
> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>
> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@apache.org>.
On 18 February 2015 at 15:15, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:12, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at dev@. So I am
> > wondering what the intention is to split technical discussions further.
> We
> > saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for developing on
> CouchDB.
> > The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because it is a complete
> > different topic.
>
> This is mostly about the git notifications, they are significant :)
>
ok fair point ... I just have the fear, that the participation will
decrease because of yet another ML a developer has to subscribe to. But we
can inform every one appropriately ... so let's go for it ...
> >
> > Unless I am missing something essential like to much different topics in
> > one list, I would leave it at dev@.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 that is a good idea.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
> >> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> >>>
> >>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
> >> it’s own space :)
> >>>
> >>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>> Jan
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy Wenk
> > Hamburg - Germany
> > RockIt!
> >
> > http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> > http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
> >
> > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
> >
> > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
>
>
--
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Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org>.
> On 18 Feb 2015, at 15:12, Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Jan,
>
> I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at dev@. So I am
> wondering what the intention is to split technical discussions further. We
> saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for developing on CouchDB.
> The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because it is a complete
> different topic.
This is mostly about the git notifications, they are significant :)
>
> Unless I am missing something essential like to much different topics in
> one list, I would leave it at dev@.
>
> Cheers
>
> Andy
>
> On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> +1 that is a good idea.
>>
>>
>>> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>>>
>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
>> it’s own space :)
>>>
>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Jan
>>> --
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Andy Wenk
> Hamburg - Germany
> RockIt!
>
> http://www.couchdb-buch.de
> http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
>
> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
>
> https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Andy Wenk <an...@nms.de>.
Hi Jan,
I am +0. Recently, there is not that much traffic at dev@. So I am
wondering what the intention is to split technical discussions further. We
saw in the last year, that the main list is dev@ for developing on CouchDB.
The only list with much traffic is marketing@ because it is a complete
different topic.
Unless I am missing something essential like to much different topics in
one list, I would leave it at dev@.
Cheers
Andy
On 18 February 2015 at 14:38, Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 that is a good idea.
>
>
> > On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> >
> > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
> it’s own space :)
> >
> > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >
> > Best
> > Jan
> > --
> >
>
>
--
Andy Wenk
Hamburg - Germany
RockIt!
http://www.couchdb-buch.de
http://www.pg-praxisbuch.de
GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Johannes Jörg Schmidt <sc...@netzmerk.com>.
+1
2015-02-18 14:38 GMT+01:00 Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org>:
> +1 that is a good idea.
>
>
> > On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> >
> > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
> it’s own space :)
> >
> > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >
> > Best
> > Jan
> > --
> >
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Garren Smith <ga...@apache.org>.
+1 that is a good idea.
> On 18 Feb 2015, at 3:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>
> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant it’s own space :)
>
> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>
> Best
> Jan
> --
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Lewis Cowper <le...@googlemail.com>.
I like this, I'm definitely keen to reduce the notification spam that comes
about, while remaining in the loop about decisions being made and so on.
On 16 April 2015 at 17:16, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Here's my understanding:
>
> New mailing list:
>
> - notifications@couchdb.apache.org
>
> (Changed from "code to "notifications", as "notifications" is more
> accurate, reflects the fact that not all JIRA tickets are about code, and
> leaves it open to any other sorts of automatic notifications we want to
> send that way.)
>
> Make the following changes:
>
> - All GH traffic sent to notifications@
> - All JIRA traffic sent to notifications@
> - We leave it open for any other big source of notification traffic to be
> sent here
>
> I *think* we have consensus on this. Might be a good idea to tie it off
> unambiguously with a VOTE thread though.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 17:50 Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, I'm confused now for what we voted for. In Jan second proposal,
> > there was nothing about moving Fauton out of dev@, but about to create
> > of code@ for JIRA and GitHub emails and I was sure that moving
> > automatically generated code-related emails to special ML in order to
> > make dev@ traffic more "human" is what it solves. Happens it doesn't?
> > --
> > ,,,^..^,,,
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > +1 to Noah's proposal, -1 to an additional separate Fauxton list.
> > > All of the Fauxton traffic I see is GH related and if I really
> > > wanted Fauxton traffic in a different folder, the filter rule is
> > > trivial.
> > >
> > > Once GH traffic is off of dev@ it will become readable again. And
> > > the monthly reminder will help people to know that things are not
> > > dead.
> > >
> > > I haven't thought carefully enough about whether JIRA traffic should
> > > follow GH traffic to another list. Right now the volume is
> > > substantially less.
> > >
> > > -Joan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org>
> > >> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
> > >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40:19 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
> > >>
> > >> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list.
> > >> See
> > >> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this
> > >> time
> > >> last month.
> > >>
> > >> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
> > >> thread.
> > >>
> > >> My proposal was:
> > >>
> > >> > I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
> > >>
> > >> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@
> > >> about
> > >> where this traffic is going.
> > >>
> > >> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
> > >>
> > >> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@,
> > >> which
> > >> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
> > >> something
> > >> like automated@ is more accurate.
> > >>
> > >> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all
> > >> automated
> > >> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one
> > >> option.
> > >> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for
> > >> JIRA,
> > >> etc. Any others?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > +1
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> > >> > > Hey all,
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their
> > >> > > own
> > >> > mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
> > >> > > warrant
> > >> > it’s own space :)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Best
> > >> > > Jan
> > >> > > --
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org>.
> On 16 Apr 2015, at 18:42, Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>> On 16 Apr 2015, at 18:16, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Here's my understanding:
>>
>> New mailing list:
>>
>> - notifications@couchdb.apache.org
>>
>> (Changed from "code to "notifications", as "notifications" is more
>> accurate, reflects the fact that not all JIRA tickets are about code, and
>> leaves it open to any other sorts of automatic notifications we want to
>> send that way.)
>>
>> Make the following changes:
>>
>> - All GH traffic sent to notifications@
>> - All JIRA traffic sent to notifications@
>> - We leave it open for any other big source of notification traffic to be
>> sent here
>>
>> I *think* we have consensus on this. Might be a good idea to tie it off
>> unambiguously with a VOTE thread though.
>
> This is basically my proposal. notifications@ works for me. I think we have
> consensus, no need to vote.
>
> I’ll set up the INFRA ticket.
>
FYI: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9483
> Thanks all.
> Best
> Jan
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 17:50 Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, I'm confused now for what we voted for. In Jan second proposal,
>>> there was nothing about moving Fauton out of dev@, but about to create
>>> of code@ for JIRA and GitHub emails and I was sure that moving
>>> automatically generated code-related emails to special ML in order to
>>> make dev@ traffic more "human" is what it solves. Happens it doesn't?
>>> --
>>> ,,,^..^,,,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> +1 to Noah's proposal, -1 to an additional separate Fauxton list.
>>>> All of the Fauxton traffic I see is GH related and if I really
>>>> wanted Fauxton traffic in a different folder, the filter rule is
>>>> trivial.
>>>>
>>>> Once GH traffic is off of dev@ it will become readable again. And
>>>> the monthly reminder will help people to know that things are not
>>>> dead.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't thought carefully enough about whether JIRA traffic should
>>>> follow GH traffic to another list. Right now the volume is
>>>> substantially less.
>>>>
>>>> -Joan
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org>
>>>>> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40:19 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list.
>>>>> See
>>>>> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this
>>>>> time
>>>>> last month.
>>>>>
>>>>> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
>>>>> thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> My proposal was:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
>>>>>
>>>>> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@
>>>>> about
>>>>> where this traffic is going.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@,
>>>>> which
>>>>> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
>>>>> something
>>>>> like automated@ is more accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all
>>>>> automated
>>>>> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one
>>>>> option.
>>>>> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for
>>>>> JIRA,
>>>>> etc. Any others?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their
>>>>>>> own
>>>>>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
>>>>>>> warrant
>>>>>> it’s own space :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
> --
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> http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
>
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Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org>.
+1 then
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jan Lehnardt" <ja...@apache.org>
> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
> Cc: "Joan Touzet" <wo...@apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:42:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
>
>
> > On 16 Apr 2015, at 18:16, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Here's my understanding:
> >
> > New mailing list:
> >
> > - notifications@couchdb.apache.org
> >
> > (Changed from "code to "notifications", as "notifications" is more
> > accurate, reflects the fact that not all JIRA tickets are about
> > code, and
> > leaves it open to any other sorts of automatic notifications we
> > want to
> > send that way.)
> >
> > Make the following changes:
> >
> > - All GH traffic sent to notifications@
> > - All JIRA traffic sent to notifications@
> > - We leave it open for any other big source of notification traffic
> > to be
> > sent here
> >
> > I *think* we have consensus on this. Might be a good idea to tie it
> > off
> > unambiguously with a VOTE thread though.
>
> This is basically my proposal. notifications@ works for me. I think
> we have
> consensus, no need to vote.
>
> I’ll set up the INFRA ticket.
>
> Thanks all.
> Best
> Jan
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 17:50 Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, I'm confused now for what we voted for. In Jan second
> >> proposal,
> >> there was nothing about moving Fauton out of dev@, but about to
> >> create
> >> of code@ for JIRA and GitHub emails and I was sure that moving
> >> automatically generated code-related emails to special ML in order
> >> to
> >> make dev@ traffic more "human" is what it solves. Happens it
> >> doesn't?
> >> --
> >> ,,,^..^,,,
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>> +1 to Noah's proposal, -1 to an additional separate Fauxton list.
> >>> All of the Fauxton traffic I see is GH related and if I really
> >>> wanted Fauxton traffic in a different folder, the filter rule is
> >>> trivial.
> >>>
> >>> Once GH traffic is off of dev@ it will become readable again. And
> >>> the monthly reminder will help people to know that things are not
> >>> dead.
> >>>
> >>> I haven't thought carefully enough about whether JIRA traffic
> >>> should
> >>> follow GH traffic to another list. Right now the volume is
> >>> substantially less.
> >>>
> >>> -Joan
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org>
> >>>> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40:19 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
> >>>>
> >>>> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another
> >>>> list.
> >>>> See
> >>>> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around
> >>>> this
> >>>> time
> >>>> last month.
> >>>>
> >>>> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a
> >>>> DISCUSS
> >>>> thread.
> >>>>
> >>>> My proposal was:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
> >>>>
> >>>> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to
> >>>> dev@
> >>>> about
> >>>> where this traffic is going.
> >>>>
> >>>> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
> >>>>
> >>>> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to
> >>>> code@,
> >>>> which
> >>>> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
> >>>> something
> >>>> like automated@ is more accurate.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all
> >>>> automated
> >>>> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one
> >>>> option.
> >>>> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one
> >>>> for
> >>>> JIRA,
> >>>> etc. Any others?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer
> >>>> <kl...@posteo.de>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> >>>>>> Hey all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team
> >>>>>> their
> >>>>>> own
> >>>>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> warrant
> >>>>> it’s own space :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best
> >>>>>> Jan
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>
> --
> Professional Support for Apache CouchDB:
> http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org>.
> On 16 Apr 2015, at 18:16, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Here's my understanding:
>
> New mailing list:
>
> - notifications@couchdb.apache.org
>
> (Changed from "code to "notifications", as "notifications" is more
> accurate, reflects the fact that not all JIRA tickets are about code, and
> leaves it open to any other sorts of automatic notifications we want to
> send that way.)
>
> Make the following changes:
>
> - All GH traffic sent to notifications@
> - All JIRA traffic sent to notifications@
> - We leave it open for any other big source of notification traffic to be
> sent here
>
> I *think* we have consensus on this. Might be a good idea to tie it off
> unambiguously with a VOTE thread though.
This is basically my proposal. notifications@ works for me. I think we have
consensus, no need to vote.
I’ll set up the INFRA ticket.
Thanks all.
Best
Jan
--
>
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 17:50 Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I'm confused now for what we voted for. In Jan second proposal,
>> there was nothing about moving Fauton out of dev@, but about to create
>> of code@ for JIRA and GitHub emails and I was sure that moving
>> automatically generated code-related emails to special ML in order to
>> make dev@ traffic more "human" is what it solves. Happens it doesn't?
>> --
>> ,,,^..^,,,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> +1 to Noah's proposal, -1 to an additional separate Fauxton list.
>>> All of the Fauxton traffic I see is GH related and if I really
>>> wanted Fauxton traffic in a different folder, the filter rule is
>>> trivial.
>>>
>>> Once GH traffic is off of dev@ it will become readable again. And
>>> the monthly reminder will help people to know that things are not
>>> dead.
>>>
>>> I haven't thought carefully enough about whether JIRA traffic should
>>> follow GH traffic to another list. Right now the volume is
>>> substantially less.
>>>
>>> -Joan
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org>
>>>> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
>>>>
>>>> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list.
>>>> See
>>>> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this
>>>> time
>>>> last month.
>>>>
>>>> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
>>>> thread.
>>>>
>>>> My proposal was:
>>>>
>>>>> I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
>>>>
>>>> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@
>>>> about
>>>> where this traffic is going.
>>>>
>>>> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
>>>>
>>>> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@,
>>>> which
>>>> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
>>>> something
>>>> like automated@ is more accurate.
>>>>
>>>> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all
>>>> automated
>>>> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one
>>>> option.
>>>> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for
>>>> JIRA,
>>>> etc. Any others?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their
>>>>>> own
>>>>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
>>>>>> warrant
>>>>> it’s own space :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
--
Professional Support for Apache CouchDB:
http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com>.
I like notifications@ name as more clean one.
--
,,,^..^,,,
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> Here's my understanding:
>
> New mailing list:
>
> - notifications@couchdb.apache.org
>
> (Changed from "code to "notifications", as "notifications" is more
> accurate, reflects the fact that not all JIRA tickets are about code, and
> leaves it open to any other sorts of automatic notifications we want to
> send that way.)
>
> Make the following changes:
>
> - All GH traffic sent to notifications@
> - All JIRA traffic sent to notifications@
> - We leave it open for any other big source of notification traffic to be
> sent here
>
> I *think* we have consensus on this. Might be a good idea to tie it off
> unambiguously with a VOTE thread though.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 17:50 Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ok, I'm confused now for what we voted for. In Jan second proposal,
>> there was nothing about moving Fauton out of dev@, but about to create
>> of code@ for JIRA and GitHub emails and I was sure that moving
>> automatically generated code-related emails to special ML in order to
>> make dev@ traffic more "human" is what it solves. Happens it doesn't?
>> --
>> ,,,^..^,,,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > +1 to Noah's proposal, -1 to an additional separate Fauxton list.
>> > All of the Fauxton traffic I see is GH related and if I really
>> > wanted Fauxton traffic in a different folder, the filter rule is
>> > trivial.
>> >
>> > Once GH traffic is off of dev@ it will become readable again. And
>> > the monthly reminder will help people to know that things are not
>> > dead.
>> >
>> > I haven't thought carefully enough about whether JIRA traffic should
>> > follow GH traffic to another list. Right now the volume is
>> > substantially less.
>> >
>> > -Joan
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org>
>> >> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40:19 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
>> >>
>> >> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list.
>> >> See
>> >> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this
>> >> time
>> >> last month.
>> >>
>> >> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
>> >> thread.
>> >>
>> >> My proposal was:
>> >>
>> >> > I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
>> >>
>> >> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@
>> >> about
>> >> where this traffic is going.
>> >>
>> >> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
>> >>
>> >> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@,
>> >> which
>> >> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
>> >> something
>> >> like automated@ is more accurate.
>> >>
>> >> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all
>> >> automated
>> >> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one
>> >> option.
>> >> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for
>> >> JIRA,
>> >> etc. Any others?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > +1
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
>> >> > > Hey all,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their
>> >> > > own
>> >> > mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
>> >> > > warrant
>> >> > it’s own space :)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Best
>> >> > > Jan
>> >> > > --
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
Here's my understanding:
New mailing list:
- notifications@couchdb.apache.org
(Changed from "code to "notifications", as "notifications" is more
accurate, reflects the fact that not all JIRA tickets are about code, and
leaves it open to any other sorts of automatic notifications we want to
send that way.)
Make the following changes:
- All GH traffic sent to notifications@
- All JIRA traffic sent to notifications@
- We leave it open for any other big source of notification traffic to be
sent here
I *think* we have consensus on this. Might be a good idea to tie it off
unambiguously with a VOTE thread though.
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 17:50 Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, I'm confused now for what we voted for. In Jan second proposal,
> there was nothing about moving Fauton out of dev@, but about to create
> of code@ for JIRA and GitHub emails and I was sure that moving
> automatically generated code-related emails to special ML in order to
> make dev@ traffic more "human" is what it solves. Happens it doesn't?
> --
> ,,,^..^,,,
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> > +1 to Noah's proposal, -1 to an additional separate Fauxton list.
> > All of the Fauxton traffic I see is GH related and if I really
> > wanted Fauxton traffic in a different folder, the filter rule is
> > trivial.
> >
> > Once GH traffic is off of dev@ it will become readable again. And
> > the monthly reminder will help people to know that things are not
> > dead.
> >
> > I haven't thought carefully enough about whether JIRA traffic should
> > follow GH traffic to another list. Right now the volume is
> > substantially less.
> >
> > -Joan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org>
> >> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40:19 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
> >>
> >> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list.
> >> See
> >> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this
> >> time
> >> last month.
> >>
> >> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
> >> thread.
> >>
> >> My proposal was:
> >>
> >> > I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
> >>
> >> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@
> >> about
> >> where this traffic is going.
> >>
> >> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
> >>
> >> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@,
> >> which
> >> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
> >> something
> >> like automated@ is more accurate.
> >>
> >> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all
> >> automated
> >> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one
> >> option.
> >> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for
> >> JIRA,
> >> etc. Any others?
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > +1
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> >> > > Hey all,
> >> > >
> >> > > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their
> >> > > own
> >> > mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> >> > >
> >> > > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
> >> > > warrant
> >> > it’s own space :)
> >> > >
> >> > > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >> > >
> >> > > Best
> >> > > Jan
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Alexander Shorin <kx...@gmail.com>.
Ok, I'm confused now for what we voted for. In Jan second proposal,
there was nothing about moving Fauton out of dev@, but about to create
of code@ for JIRA and GitHub emails and I was sure that moving
automatically generated code-related emails to special ML in order to
make dev@ traffic more "human" is what it solves. Happens it doesn't?
--
,,,^..^,,,
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1 to Noah's proposal, -1 to an additional separate Fauxton list.
> All of the Fauxton traffic I see is GH related and if I really
> wanted Fauxton traffic in a different folder, the filter rule is
> trivial.
>
> Once GH traffic is off of dev@ it will become readable again. And
> the monthly reminder will help people to know that things are not
> dead.
>
> I haven't thought carefully enough about whether JIRA traffic should
> follow GH traffic to another list. Right now the volume is
> substantially less.
>
> -Joan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org>
>> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
>> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
>>
>> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list.
>> See
>> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this
>> time
>> last month.
>>
>> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
>> thread.
>>
>> My proposal was:
>>
>> > I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
>>
>> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@
>> about
>> where this traffic is going.
>>
>> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
>>
>> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@,
>> which
>> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
>> something
>> like automated@ is more accurate.
>>
>> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all
>> automated
>> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one
>> option.
>> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for
>> JIRA,
>> etc. Any others?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > +1
>> >
>> >
>> > On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
>> > > Hey all,
>> > >
>> > > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their
>> > > own
>> > mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>> > >
>> > > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
>> > > warrant
>> > it’s own space :)
>> > >
>> > > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>> > >
>> > > Best
>> > > Jan
>> > > --
>> > >
>> >
>>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
K, thanks Jan
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 18:43 Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On 16 Apr 2015, at 13:40, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list. See
> > "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this time
> > last month.
> >
> > The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
> > thread.
>
> This is that thread. I was just tying up lose ends. See my other email for
> moving forward.
>
> Best
> Jan
> —
>
>
>
> >
> > My proposal was:
> >
> >> I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
> >
> > Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@ about
> > where this traffic is going.
> >
> > Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
> >
> > Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@,
> which
> > echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
> something
> > like automated@ is more accurate.
> >
> > It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all automated
> > emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one option.
> > Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for JIRA,
> > etc. Any others?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >>
> >> On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> >>> Hey all,
> >>>
> >>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
> >> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> >>>
> >>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
> >> it’s own space :)
> >>>
> >>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> Best
> >>> Jan
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>
>
> --
> Professional Support for Apache CouchDB:
> http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Jan Lehnardt <ja...@apache.org>.
> On 16 Apr 2015, at 13:40, Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list. See
> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this time
> last month.
>
> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
> thread.
This is that thread. I was just tying up lose ends. See my other email for
moving forward.
Best
Jan
—
>
> My proposal was:
>
>> I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
>
> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@ about
> where this traffic is going.
>
> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
>
> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@, which
> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here, something
> like automated@ is more accurate.
>
> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all automated
> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one option.
> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for JIRA,
> etc. Any others?
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>>>
>>> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
>> it’s own space :)
>>>
>>> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Jan
>>> --
>>>
>>
--
Professional Support for Apache CouchDB:
http://www.neighbourhood.ie/couchdb-support/
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
I also think we need to start thinking carefully about the overhead we're
adding with all these mailing lists.
I think it's good that we've been in an expansionist phase. But there are
several downsides:
- Splitting mailing list traffic splits discussion and splits the
community, in a very real sense. Conversations become balkanised. This can
be good, but it also has the potential to be bad. We need to keep both
aspects in mind.
- Mailing lists are already pretty weird, and many people don't like them.
In that sense, adding mailing lists increases the barrier to entry for
participation in our project. And that's a very important issue we need to
consider.
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 13:40 Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org> wrote:
> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list. See
> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this time
> last month.
>
> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
> thread.
>
> My proposal was:
>
> > I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
>
> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@ about
> where this traffic is going.
>
> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
>
> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@, which
> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here, something
> like automated@ is more accurate.
>
> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all automated
> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one option.
> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for JIRA,
> etc. Any others?
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
>> > Hey all,
>> >
>> > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
>> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>> >
>> > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
>> it’s own space :)
>> >
>> > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>> >
>> > Best
>> > Jan
>> > --
>> >
>>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Joan Touzet <wo...@apache.org>.
+1 to Noah's proposal, -1 to an additional separate Fauxton list.
All of the Fauxton traffic I see is GH related and if I really
wanted Fauxton traffic in a different folder, the filter rule is
trivial.
Once GH traffic is off of dev@ it will become readable again. And
the monthly reminder will help people to know that things are not
dead.
I haven't thought carefully enough about whether JIRA traffic should
follow GH traffic to another list. Right now the volume is
substantially less.
-Joan
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noah Slater" <ns...@apache.org>
> To: dev@couchdb.apache.org
> Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:40:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
>
> I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list.
> See
> "[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this
> time
> last month.
>
> The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
> thread.
>
> My proposal was:
>
> > I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
>
> Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@
> about
> where this traffic is going.
>
> Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
>
> Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@,
> which
> echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here,
> something
> like automated@ is more accurate.
>
> It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all
> automated
> emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one
> option.
> Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for
> JIRA,
> etc. Any others?
>
>
> On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> >
> > On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their
> > > own
> > mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> > >
> > > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to
> > > warrant
> > it’s own space :)
> > >
> > > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> > >
> > > Best
> > > Jan
> > > --
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Noah Slater <ns...@apache.org>.
I thought we'd already discussed moving this stuff to another list. See
"[PROPOSAL] Move transactional email out of dev@" sent around this time
last month.
The last email on that thread was me suggesting we kick off a DISCUSS
thread.
My proposal was:
> I am +1 for GitHub PRs moving to something like reviews@
Joan added that she wants to have a monthly reminder sent to dev@ about
where this traffic is going.
Other people then suggested this ML handle JIRA traffic too.
Your proposal in this thread is to move JIRA *and* GitHub to code@, which
echos that. Though I think if we're sending all this stuff here, something
like automated@ is more accurate.
It's not clear to me that we have consensus on bunching up all automated
emails and moving them to a new list. As I see it, that is one option.
Another option is to split it by source, so one for GitHub, one for JIRA,
etc. Any others?
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 at 00:08 Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de> wrote:
> +1
>
>
> On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own
> mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
> >
> > In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant
> it’s own space :)
> >
> > I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
> >
> > Best
> > Jan
> > --
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Move Fauxton to its own mailing list?
Posted by Klaus Trainer <kl...@posteo.de>.
+1
On 02/18/2015 02:34 PM, Jan Lehnardt wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I’m wondering how you would feel to give the Fauxton team their own mailing list for discussions and GitHub notifications?
>
> In my view, the Fauxton project is generating enough traffic to warrant it’s own space :)
>
> I’d propose fauxton-dev@couchdb.apache.org
>
> Best
> Jan
> --
>