Re[2]: Real fix for stock spams - pick up a pen

[Robert Braver <rb...@ohww.norman.ok.us>]

On Thursday, November 16, 2006, 8:00:09 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote:

MS> It was $500, and the law changed to make it impossible to collect
MS> anymore.

MS> Before, it was a 'first strike' and you owe $500.  Now you have to 'opt
MS> out' (they can still send you one)

Opt-out applies only if there is an existing business relationship
with the recipient, and several other requirements are met.

The rules haven't changed w/r/t typical junk faxes... you can(and
indeed we are) nailing them for the first fax, last fax, and every
fax in between.

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Best regards,
 Robert Braver
 rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us

Re: Real fix for stock spams - pick up a pen

[Bookworm <qm...@bkwm.com>]

Robert Braver wrote:
> On Thursday, November 16, 2006, 8:00:09 PM, Michael Scheidell wrote:
>
> MS> It was $500, and the law changed to make it impossible to collect
> MS> anymore.
>
> MS> Before, it was a 'first strike' and you owe $500.  Now you have to 'opt
> MS> out' (they can still send you one)
>
> Opt-out applies only if there is an existing business relationship
> with the recipient, and several other requirements are met.
>
> The rules haven't changed w/r/t typical junk faxes... you can(and
> indeed we are) nailing them for the first fax, last fax, and every
> fax in between.
>
>   
Yes - Opt-out _used_ to sometimes be a valid excuse, but especially 
since the change last summer, it's basically "Unless you have a piece of 
paper saying that you can send them faxes, you can't send them faxes".   
The only exception to that rule is a fax saying "We'd like to send you 
information X."  - you can't include any of the information, just the 
request.  Then they have to send that back.

Faxes are opt-in only, unless you already have a prior business 
relationship (that piece of paper.  Two of my customers that faxed to 
various construction companies (legitimately, they never hid, and they 
always removed), spent weeks sending out "if you'd like to continue 
receiving these faxes, please fill this out and send it back" papers)

BW