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Posted to dev@jena.apache.org by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> on 2013/01/29 10:28:36 UTC
riot-output
The prefixes improvement are good timing for me because some new
possible writers in
https://github.com/afs/riot-output
are making progress. Writers done, working on the registry and
extensibility.
(moved out of /Experimental so as not to cause many small commits to
clog things up - I'm just as happy to use svn/Experimental is you want
to see the fiddling about before first usable release)
It includes pretty TriG writing, pretty Turtle writing, N-triples and
N-Quads that should be faster (less string bashing, more buffering).
Faster URI to prefix name will be valuable. I was going to have to
worry about it and now I don't :-)
There is a PrintStreamRDF that does streaming output of Turtle (no
lists) and makes something easier to read than N-triples. I was going
to add it to the riot parser commands as an output option. This will be
performance critical.
Andy
Re: riot-output
Posted by Rob Vesse <rv...@yarcdata.com>.
Documentation looks great :)
Rob
On 3/10/13 11:29 AM, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>On 08/03/13 16:17, Andy Seaborne wrote:
>> Notice : I'm going to merge in the new writers, write registry etc etc
>> into trunk sometime in the next few days.
>>
>> You should notice no difference :-)
>>
>> It is likely the pretty printed of Turtle may need fine tuning to align
>> to the old writers (if anyone cares).
>>
>> Andy
>
>Done and some to-be-integrated documentation:
>
>http://jena.staging.apache.org/documentation/io/output.html
>
> Andy
>
Re: riot-output
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 08/03/13 16:17, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> Notice : I'm going to merge in the new writers, write registry etc etc
> into trunk sometime in the next few days.
>
> You should notice no difference :-)
>
> It is likely the pretty printed of Turtle may need fine tuning to align
> to the old writers (if anyone cares).
>
> Andy
Done and some to-be-integrated documentation:
http://jena.staging.apache.org/documentation/io/output.html
Andy
Re: riot-output
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
Notice : I'm going to merge in the new writers, write registry etc etc
into trunk sometime in the next few days.
You should notice no difference :-)
It is likely the pretty printed of Turtle may need fine tuning to align
to the old writers (if anyone cares).
Andy
Re: riot-output
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 29/01/13 16:25, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 29/01/13 10:57, Rob Vesse wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/29/13 9:28 AM, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The prefixes improvement are good timing for me because some new
>>>> possible writers in
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/afs/riot-output
>>>>
>>>> are making progress. Writers done, working on the registry and
>>>> extensibility.
>>>>
>>>> (moved out of /Experimental so as not to cause many small commits to
>>>> clog things up - I'm just as happy to use svn/Experimental is you want
>>>> to see the fiddling about before first usable release)
>>>
>>>
>>> I assume GitHub has the notion of email notifications so you could turn on
>>> notifications of your git commits on that repo and have them sent to the
>>> commits@jena.apache.org list like the SVN notifications do?
>>>
>>> That would be nice as it allows us all to see and comment on work that
>>> goes on even if it doesn't happen in the SVN repo
>>
>>
>> If we are agreed on seeing the noise, I can move it back to ASF. I'm
>> neutral as to location.
>>
>> I would appreciate review and improvement - feel free to just edit the code
>> for the "doh!" things. While review should be able learning better ways, it
>> is also about finding the stupidities, which are often more numerous.
>>
>>
>
> I would slightly prefer ASF, so that I can see the commit messages. I
> do try to read/skim most of them, if only to see what bits people are
> working on.
>
Moved back:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jena/Experimental/riot-output/
Andy
Re: riot-output
Posted by Stephen Allen <sa...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 29/01/13 10:57, Rob Vesse wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 1/29/13 9:28 AM, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> The prefixes improvement are good timing for me because some new
>>> possible writers in
>>>
>>> https://github.com/afs/riot-output
>>>
>>> are making progress. Writers done, working on the registry and
>>> extensibility.
>>>
>>> (moved out of /Experimental so as not to cause many small commits to
>>> clog things up - I'm just as happy to use svn/Experimental is you want
>>> to see the fiddling about before first usable release)
>>
>>
>> I assume GitHub has the notion of email notifications so you could turn on
>> notifications of your git commits on that repo and have them sent to the
>> commits@jena.apache.org list like the SVN notifications do?
>>
>> That would be nice as it allows us all to see and comment on work that
>> goes on even if it doesn't happen in the SVN repo
>
>
> If we are agreed on seeing the noise, I can move it back to ASF. I'm
> neutral as to location.
>
> I would appreciate review and improvement - feel free to just edit the code
> for the "doh!" things. While review should be able learning better ways, it
> is also about finding the stupidities, which are often more numerous.
>
>
I would slightly prefer ASF, so that I can see the commit messages. I
do try to read/skim most of them, if only to see what bits people are
working on.
>>
>>>
>>> It includes pretty TriG writing, pretty Turtle writing, N-triples and
>>> N-Quads that should be faster (less string bashing, more buffering).
>>>
>>> Faster URI to prefix name will be valuable. I was going to have to
>>> worry about it and now I don't :-)
>>
>>
>> Btw I have renamed FastPrefixMap to FastAbbreviatingPrefixMap to better
>> reflect its intended usage and capability.
>>
>>>
>>> There is a PrintStreamRDF that does streaming output of Turtle (no
>>> lists) and makes something easier to read than N-triples. I was going
>>> to add it to the riot parser commands as an output option. This will be
>>> performance critical.
>>
>>
>> This sounds really good, definitely something I will be using
>>
>> Rob
>>
>>>
>>> Andy
>>
>>
>
Re: riot-output
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 29/01/13 10:57, Rob Vesse wrote:
>
> On 1/29/13 9:28 AM, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> The prefixes improvement are good timing for me because some new
>> possible writers in
>>
>> https://github.com/afs/riot-output
>>
>> are making progress. Writers done, working on the registry and
>> extensibility.
>>
>> (moved out of /Experimental so as not to cause many small commits to
>> clog things up - I'm just as happy to use svn/Experimental is you want
>> to see the fiddling about before first usable release)
>
> I assume GitHub has the notion of email notifications so you could turn on
> notifications of your git commits on that repo and have them sent to the
> commits@jena.apache.org list like the SVN notifications do?
>
> That would be nice as it allows us all to see and comment on work that
> goes on even if it doesn't happen in the SVN repo
If we are agreed on seeing the noise, I can move it back to ASF. I'm
neutral as to location.
I would appreciate review and improvement - feel free to just edit the
code for the "doh!" things. While review should be able learning better
ways, it is also about finding the stupidities, which are often more
numerous.
>
>>
>> It includes pretty TriG writing, pretty Turtle writing, N-triples and
>> N-Quads that should be faster (less string bashing, more buffering).
>>
>> Faster URI to prefix name will be valuable. I was going to have to
>> worry about it and now I don't :-)
>
> Btw I have renamed FastPrefixMap to FastAbbreviatingPrefixMap to better
> reflect its intended usage and capability.
>
>>
>> There is a PrintStreamRDF that does streaming output of Turtle (no
>> lists) and makes something easier to read than N-triples. I was going
>> to add it to the riot parser commands as an output option. This will be
>> performance critical.
>
> This sounds really good, definitely something I will be using
>
> Rob
>
>>
>> Andy
>
Re: riot-output
Posted by Rob Vesse <rv...@yarcdata.com>.
On 1/29/13 9:28 AM, "Andy Seaborne" <an...@apache.org> wrote:
>The prefixes improvement are good timing for me because some new
>possible writers in
>
>https://github.com/afs/riot-output
>
>are making progress. Writers done, working on the registry and
>extensibility.
>
>(moved out of /Experimental so as not to cause many small commits to
>clog things up - I'm just as happy to use svn/Experimental is you want
>to see the fiddling about before first usable release)
I assume GitHub has the notion of email notifications so you could turn on
notifications of your git commits on that repo and have them sent to the
commits@jena.apache.org list like the SVN notifications do?
That would be nice as it allows us all to see and comment on work that
goes on even if it doesn't happen in the SVN repo
>
>It includes pretty TriG writing, pretty Turtle writing, N-triples and
>N-Quads that should be faster (less string bashing, more buffering).
>
>Faster URI to prefix name will be valuable. I was going to have to
>worry about it and now I don't :-)
Btw I have renamed FastPrefixMap to FastAbbreviatingPrefixMap to better
reflect its intended usage and capability.
>
>There is a PrintStreamRDF that does streaming output of Turtle (no
>lists) and makes something easier to read than N-triples. I was going
>to add it to the riot parser commands as an output option. This will be
>performance critical.
This sounds really good, definitely something I will be using
Rob
>
> Andy