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[All] What belongs to "changes.xml"

Hello.

Referring to e.g. the recent
   https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-cli/changes-report.html
I notice that almost half the reported changes concern build's plugins
updates.
Shouldn't "changes.xml" only report modifications of the code source, i.e.
things that are of direct interest to users of the component?

Regards,
Gilles

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Re: [All] What belongs to "changes.xml"

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Feel free to edit as you see fit ;-)

Gary

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 20:26 sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm inclined to agree with Gilles that updates to plugins should only
> be noted where they affect users of the code, i.e. direct
> dependencies.
>
> The useful changes are being shouted down by the various plugin changes.
>
> In particular, updates to actions are completely irrelevant as they
> only affect our GitHub installation.
>
> On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 at 01:13, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > IMO, each component can do as it best sees fit. I like the idea of the
> file
> > being a summary of all changes. RE updates to dependencies and plugins,
> > these will matter to some but not others, it depends on how you use the
> > component. I see it as making visible and transparent the kind of
> attention
> > to detail we have (or not).
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 18:36 Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > Referring to e.g. the recent
> > >    https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-cli/changes-report.html
> > > I notice that almost half the reported changes concern build's plugins
> > > updates.
> > > Shouldn't "changes.xml" only report modifications of the code source,
> i.e.
> > > things that are of direct interest to users of the component?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Gilles
> > >
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Re: [All] What belongs to "changes.xml"

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
I'm inclined to agree with Gilles that updates to plugins should only
be noted where they affect users of the code, i.e. direct
dependencies.

The useful changes are being shouted down by the various plugin changes.

In particular, updates to actions are completely irrelevant as they
only affect our GitHub installation.

On Sat, 30 Oct 2021 at 01:13, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> IMO, each component can do as it best sees fit. I like the idea of the file
> being a summary of all changes. RE updates to dependencies and plugins,
> these will matter to some but not others, it depends on how you use the
> component. I see it as making visible and transparent the kind of attention
> to detail we have (or not).
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 18:36 Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> >
> > Referring to e.g. the recent
> >    https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-cli/changes-report.html
> > I notice that almost half the reported changes concern build's plugins
> > updates.
> > Shouldn't "changes.xml" only report modifications of the code source, i.e.
> > things that are of direct interest to users of the component?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Gilles
> >
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> >
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Re: [All] What belongs to "changes.xml"

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
IMO, each component can do as it best sees fit. I like the idea of the file
being a summary of all changes. RE updates to dependencies and plugins,
these will matter to some but not others, it depends on how you use the
component. I see it as making visible and transparent the kind of attention
to detail we have (or not).

Gary

On Fri, Oct 29, 2021, 18:36 Gilles Sadowski <gi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello.
>
> Referring to e.g. the recent
>    https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-cli/changes-report.html
> I notice that almost half the reported changes concern build's plugins
> updates.
> Shouldn't "changes.xml" only report modifications of the code source, i.e.
> things that are of direct interest to users of the component?
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
>
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