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Posted to users@maven.apache.org by "Hirn, Joseph" <Jo...@cmegroup.com> on 2007/11/13 22:54:17 UTC
Next versions? Industry Usage? Help me sell mvn to my department.
Hello. I am doing some research for my employer to convert to Maven and
I had a few questions about future releases.
I could not find any information on when the next version of Maven,
2.0.8 or 2.1 is anticipated nor could I find any information on the next
major, or Maven 3 release. I realize this would require knowledge of the
future to answer accurately but any ballparks would be appreciated.
I'm also trying to determine what the market share of Maven is, I would
prefer to hear about major companies who are using it but if there is a
list of Major Open Source projects or a count that would be fantastic.
Thanks so much
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RE: Two jars, one pom...
Posted by "Brian E. Fox" <br...@reply.infinity.nu>.
The multi module is the correct way to go. You might be able to combine
them using the assembly plugin and the jar with dependencies stuff.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hirn, Joseph [mailto:Joseph.Hirn@cmegroup.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:48 PM
To: Maven Users List; taras.lipatov@vidavee.com
Subject: Two jars, one pom...
I am helping someone implement Maven in their project and looking for
the best way to go about generating two jars from the same source base.
They did this previously via two ant targets. Please note we are
retrofitting this codebase to Maven so it was not originally structured
with Maven's "project" structure in mind.
The option to break up the project into two separate projects seems like
the ideal way. They need an "ALL" jar and a client jar for distribution.
>From what was explained, it might need to be three components where
there are server, client, and shared code. This would result in three
POMS and three jars which does not simplify distribution as they would
like a single "ALL" jar rather than having three separate artifacts.
The other option would be to have a separate profile which compiles the
client jar but that doesn't seem "mavenish", and I'm not 1000% sure it
can be supported .
If there is a third way I would appreciate the recommendation. I also
would like to hear thoughts on my two approaches and if anyone has had
to deal with separating out things in this manner.
Thanks so much.
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Re: Two jars, one pom...
Posted by Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com>.
2007/11/13, Hirn, Joseph <Jo...@cmegroup.com>:
> If there is a third way I would appreciate the recommendation. I also
> would like to hear thoughts on my two approaches and if anyone has had
> to deal with separating out things in this manner.
Possibly the solution could be to separate these jars into atomic
modules (i.e. that they do not need to be separated anymore) and then
"aggregating" them in an "all" jar using the "assembly" plugin:
http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-assembly-plugin/
This is in some way how Spring 2 is packaged: they provide modular
jars for Maven, but they also provide a "spring-all" jar containing
all the Spring.
Ciao
Antonio
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Re: Two jars, one pom...
Posted by Lee Meador <le...@leemeador.com>.
We have a similar situation where we build a jar that goes into a rar
file but we need a client jar as well. We build one of the files with
an ant task (after maven has done all the compiling and such) and use
the build-helper plugin to add the extra resulting artifact file to
the list of things to install and deploy. Works like a charm.
It's similar to the situation where the ejb plugin generates an ejb
jar and a client jar too. The difference is that the ejb plugin adds
its own support for having two artifacts as a result.
-- Lee
On Nov 13, 2007 4:47 PM, Hirn, Joseph <Jo...@cmegroup.com> wrote:
> I am helping someone implement Maven in their project and looking for
> the best way to go about generating two jars from the same source base.
> They did this previously via two ant targets. Please note we are
> retrofitting this codebase to Maven so it was not originally structured
> with Maven's "project" structure in mind.
>
> The option to break up the project into two separate projects seems like
> the ideal way. They need an "ALL" jar and a client jar for distribution.
> From what was explained, it might need to be three components where
> there are server, client, and shared code. This would result in three
> POMS and three jars which does not simplify distribution as they would
> like a single "ALL" jar rather than having three separate artifacts.
>
> The other option would be to have a separate profile which compiles the
> client jar but that doesn't seem "mavenish", and I'm not 1000% sure it
> can be supported .
>
> If there is a third way I would appreciate the recommendation. I also
> would like to hear thoughts on my two approaches and if anyone has had
> to deal with separating out things in this manner.
>
> Thanks so much.
>
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Two jars, one pom...
Posted by "Hirn, Joseph" <Jo...@cmegroup.com>.
I am helping someone implement Maven in their project and looking for
the best way to go about generating two jars from the same source base.
They did this previously via two ant targets. Please note we are
retrofitting this codebase to Maven so it was not originally structured
with Maven's "project" structure in mind.
The option to break up the project into two separate projects seems like
the ideal way. They need an "ALL" jar and a client jar for distribution.
>From what was explained, it might need to be three components where
there are server, client, and shared code. This would result in three
POMS and three jars which does not simplify distribution as they would
like a single "ALL" jar rather than having three separate artifacts.
The other option would be to have a separate profile which compiles the
client jar but that doesn't seem "mavenish", and I'm not 1000% sure it
can be supported .
If there is a third way I would appreciate the recommendation. I also
would like to hear thoughts on my two approaches and if anyone has had
to deal with separating out things in this manner.
Thanks so much.
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RE: Next versions? Industry Usage? Help me sell mvn to mydepartment.
Posted by "Hirn, Joseph" <Jo...@cmegroup.com>.
Yes we have a great cfg mgmt team this is for the manager of that dept
to sell to the upper mgmt. I'm still trying to find specifics on the
next releases and a some sort of metric to quantify industry usage.
-----Original Message-----
From: Taras Lipatov [mailto:taras.lipatov@vidavee.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:23 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Re: Next versions? Industry Usage? Help me sell mvn to
mydepartment.
I have used maven for the passed few years in companies ranging from 10
users to 200+ for only commercial applications.
One important thing to understand is that Maven is more then just a
build system. Its a configuration management suite (as we call it).
Make sure to have a good configuration management plan to go along with
your Maven conversion proposal. Employers eat that stuff up :)
Cheers.
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 15:54 -0600, Hirn, Joseph wrote:
> Hello. I am doing some research for my employer to convert to Maven
and
> I had a few questions about future releases.
>
> I could not find any information on when the next version of Maven,
> 2.0.8 or 2.1 is anticipated nor could I find any information on the
next
> major, or Maven 3 release. I realize this would require knowledge of
the
> future to answer accurately but any ballparks would be appreciated.
>
> I'm also trying to determine what the market share of Maven is, I
would
> prefer to hear about major companies who are using it but if there is
a
> list of Major Open Source projects or a count that would be fantastic.
>
> Thanks so much
>
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Re: Next versions? Industry Usage? Help me sell mvn to my
department.
Posted by Taras Lipatov <ta...@vidavee.com>.
I have used maven for the passed few years in companies ranging from 10
users to 200+ for only commercial applications.
One important thing to understand is that Maven is more then just a
build system. Its a configuration management suite (as we call it).
Make sure to have a good configuration management plan to go along with
your Maven conversion proposal. Employers eat that stuff up :)
Cheers.
On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 15:54 -0600, Hirn, Joseph wrote:
> Hello. I am doing some research for my employer to convert to Maven and
> I had a few questions about future releases.
>
> I could not find any information on when the next version of Maven,
> 2.0.8 or 2.1 is anticipated nor could I find any information on the next
> major, or Maven 3 release. I realize this would require knowledge of the
> future to answer accurately but any ballparks would be appreciated.
>
> I'm also trying to determine what the market share of Maven is, I would
> prefer to hear about major companies who are using it but if there is a
> list of Major Open Source projects or a count that would be fantastic.
>
> Thanks so much
>
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RE: Next versions? Industry Usage? Help me sell mvn to my department.
Posted by "Cox, Chris" <Ch...@intuit.com>.
Another quick check before the holidays we are still building out our
SCM team and are looking for Staff Build/Release SCM Engineers
(preferred experience in Maven and ANT, but domain expertise is
sufficient. We are paying for relo to Mt. View. Let m know you anyone
knows anyone who might be interested.
Thanks,
Chris Cox
Intuit 415-681-3665
-----Original Message-----
From: Hirn, Joseph [mailto:Joseph.Hirn@cmegroup.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:54 PM
To: Maven Users List
Subject: Next versions? Industry Usage? Help me sell mvn to my
department.
Hello. I am doing some research for my employer to convert to Maven and
I had a few questions about future releases.
I could not find any information on when the next version of Maven,
2.0.8 or 2.1 is anticipated nor could I find any information on the next
major, or Maven 3 release. I realize this would require knowledge of the
future to answer accurately but any ballparks would be appreciated.
I'm also trying to determine what the market share of Maven is, I would
prefer to hear about major companies who are using it but if there is a
list of Major Open Source projects or a count that would be fantastic.
Thanks so much
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