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Posted to dev@cordova.apache.org by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> on 2012/01/10 03:29:54 UTC
Podling rename, vote needed?
Hi,
[to: general@, cc: callback-dev@]
As discussed during the Callback proposal phase [1], the podling
community wasn't too certain about the "Callback" name and thus after
some discussion they recently voted [2] on adopting the new name
"Apache Cordova". The vote and its result was mentioned in the
December status report [3].
Now the question came up [4] about whether such a rename needs to be
explicitly approved by a vote of the IPCM. Personally I don't think
one is needed, as the possible need for such a rename was already
discussed on general@, and as the community vote itself and the
related name selection process was monitored by us mentors. A similar
process was followed when the Lucene Connector Framework podling
changed it's name to ManifoldCF [5].
Thus we never asked the podling to bring the matter to the IPMC for a
formal vote. However, if people feel that an IPMC vote on this is
needed, we'll happily comply.
[1] http://markmail.org/message/i6d2nrwdbqse3rqs
[2] http://markmail.org/message/kq3oa7wewl5ltvic
[3] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2011
[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4306?focusedCommentId=13182966&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13182966
[5] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2010
BR,
Jukka Zitting
Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:34 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> At the very least, please update the status page to document the name change.
Done.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 10 January 2012 10:13, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:48 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On a related matter, how is the rename being handled for the various
>> incubator data files, web-pages, mailing lists etc.?
>
> We're still working on that, but I suppose we'll be leaving pointers
> from old callback locations to new cordova ones where appropriate. It
> may well be that we'll postpone some parts of the name change all the
> way to graduation, in case we can get there soon enough.
At the very least, please update the status page to document the name change.
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:48 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On a related matter, how is the rename being handled for the various
>> incubator data files, web-pages, mailing lists etc.?
>
> We're still working on that, but I suppose we'll be leaving pointers
> from old callback locations to new cordova ones where appropriate. It
> may well be that we'll postpone some parts of the name change all the
> way to graduation, in case we can get there soon enough.
If you could write up a guide to renaming somewhere, that'd be much
appreciated :-)
Robert (whose computer time is limited but improving)
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Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:48 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On a related matter, how is the rename being handled for the various
> incubator data files, web-pages, mailing lists etc.?
We're still working on that, but I suppose we'll be leaving pointers
from old callback locations to new cordova ones where appropriate. It
may well be that we'll postpone some parts of the name change all the
way to graduation, in case we can get there soon enough.
BR,
Jukka Zitting
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Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 10 January 2012 02:29, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [to: general@, cc: callback-dev@]
>
> As discussed during the Callback proposal phase [1], the podling
> community wasn't too certain about the "Callback" name and thus after
> some discussion they recently voted [2] on adopting the new name
> "Apache Cordova". The vote and its result was mentioned in the
> December status report [3].
>
> Now the question came up [4] about whether such a rename needs to be
> explicitly approved by a vote of the IPCM. Personally I don't think
> one is needed, as the possible need for such a rename was already
> discussed on general@, and as the community vote itself and the
> related name selection process was monitored by us mentors. A similar
> process was followed when the Lucene Connector Framework podling
> changed it's name to ManifoldCF [5].
>
> Thus we never asked the podling to bring the matter to the IPMC for a
> formal vote. However, if people feel that an IPMC vote on this is
> needed, we'll happily comply.
On a related matter, how is the rename being handled for the various
incubator data files, web-pages, mailing lists etc.?
People need to be able to find the podling under its new name, and
clutch etc. need to be able to keep track of the podling status.
There need to be redirects added for web-pages if/when the old pages
are renamed.
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/i6d2nrwdbqse3rqs
> [2] http://markmail.org/message/kq3oa7wewl5ltvic
> [3] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2011
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4306?focusedCommentId=13182966&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13182966
> [5] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2010
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...As discussed during the Callback proposal phase [1], the podling
>> community wasn't too certain about the "Callback" name and thus after
>> some discussion they recently voted [2] on adopting the new name
>> "Apache Cordova". The vote and its result was mentioned in the
>> December status report [3].
>>
>> Now the question came up [4] about whether such a rename needs to be
>> explicitly approved by a vote of the IPCM...
>
> The way you're handling it is perfectly fine IMO - the Incubator PMC
> is now officially informed of the change, if someone has a problem
> with the new name they can bring it up.
>
> No need for a formal vote IMO.
+1
Please inform the community on general so that in the (unlikely) case
that a really unsuitable name is chosen, someone can force a VOTE.
Robert
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Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...As discussed during the Callback proposal phase [1], the podling
> community wasn't too certain about the "Callback" name and thus after
> some discussion they recently voted [2] on adopting the new name
> "Apache Cordova". The vote and its result was mentioned in the
> December status report [3].
>
> Now the question came up [4] about whether such a rename needs to be
> explicitly approved by a vote of the IPCM...
The way you're handling it is perfectly fine IMO - the Incubator PMC
is now officially informed of the change, if someone has a problem
with the new name they can bring it up.
No need for a formal vote IMO.
-Bertrand
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Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 10 January 2012 02:29, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [to: general@, cc: callback-dev@]
>
> As discussed during the Callback proposal phase [1], the podling
> community wasn't too certain about the "Callback" name and thus after
> some discussion they recently voted [2] on adopting the new name
> "Apache Cordova". The vote and its result was mentioned in the
> December status report [3].
>
> Now the question came up [4] about whether such a rename needs to be
> explicitly approved by a vote of the IPCM. Personally I don't think
> one is needed, as the possible need for such a rename was already
> discussed on general@, and as the community vote itself and the
> related name selection process was monitored by us mentors. A similar
> process was followed when the Lucene Connector Framework podling
> changed it's name to ManifoldCF [5].
>
> Thus we never asked the podling to bring the matter to the IPMC for a
> formal vote. However, if people feel that an IPMC vote on this is
> needed, we'll happily comply.
On a related matter, how is the rename being handled for the various
incubator data files, web-pages, mailing lists etc.?
People need to be able to find the podling under its new name, and
clutch etc. need to be able to keep track of the podling status.
There need to be redirects added for web-pages if/when the old pages
are renamed.
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/i6d2nrwdbqse3rqs
> [2] http://markmail.org/message/kq3oa7wewl5ltvic
> [3] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2011
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4306?focusedCommentId=13182966&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13182966
> [5] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2010
>
> BR,
>
> Jukka Zitting
>
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Re: Podling rename, vote needed?
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Jukka Zitting <ju...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...As discussed during the Callback proposal phase [1], the podling
> community wasn't too certain about the "Callback" name and thus after
> some discussion they recently voted [2] on adopting the new name
> "Apache Cordova". The vote and its result was mentioned in the
> December status report [3].
>
> Now the question came up [4] about whether such a rename needs to be
> explicitly approved by a vote of the IPCM...
The way you're handling it is perfectly fine IMO - the Incubator PMC
is now officially informed of the change, if someone has a problem
with the new name they can bring it up.
No need for a formal vote IMO.
-Bertrand