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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> on 2015/10/05 20:05:19 UTC

Request for comments on Myfaces project statuses

I'm in the process of compiling the Myfaces board report for October.

Would anyone care to comment on the activity and health of the
following subprojects?  I've already written something up for
Trinidad, Tobago, and PortletBridge, which I've posted at the bottom,
but we can revise those if necessary.

JSF Implementation:
 - Apache Myfaces Core is ...

UI-Component Sets:
- Myfaces Tomahawk is ...

Add-ons and Extensions:

 - Apache MyFaces CODI is ...
 - Apache MyFaces Orchestra is ...
 - Apache MyFaces ExtVal is ...
 - Apache MyFaces Test is ...
 - Apache MyFaces Commons is ...
 - Apache MyFaces Ext-Scripting is ...
 - Apache MyFaces Sandbox is ...


UI-Component Sets:
 - Apache Tobago is healthy and active.

 - Apache Trinidad had three maintenance commits by two different new
contributors this quarter, which was encouraged by having issue
reporters submit fixes for their own issues.  There may still be life
in this project.

Add-ons and Extensions:
 - Apache MyFaces Portlet Bridge is dead.  Last developer commit was
Jan 2014.  We added a contributor who indicated interest in the
project in May, but no activity has been forthcoming.  We will
probably need assistance in moving this project to the attic.

Re: Request for comments on Myfaces project statuses

Posted by Leonardo Uribe <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi

These are my personal comments:

2015-10-05 13:05 GMT-05:00 Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>:

> I'm in the process of compiling the Myfaces board report for October.
>
> Would anyone care to comment on the activity and health of the
> following subprojects?  I've already written something up for
> Trinidad, Tobago, and PortletBridge, which I've posted at the bottom,
> but we can revise those if necessary.
>
> JSF Implementation:
>  - Apache Myfaces Core is ...
>
>
I think the project is healthy, but we are on a maintenance stage, which
means the activity is reduced, because there are less and less issues
to be solved. A release could be done soon.


> UI-Component Sets:
> - Myfaces Tomahawk is ...
>
>
No activity on this part. The reason is over the time, many features and
ideas of  Tomahawk were included into jsf spec, which at the end looks
better, but reduce the need of the specific hacks that Tomahawk provides,
even more with jsf 2.2 html5, composite components and, passthrough
attributes. There are some components that are still useful.

Add-ons and Extensions:
>
>  - Apache MyFaces CODI is ...
>

As we all know Apache MyFaces CODI is on maintenance stage too,
because it was replaced by DeltaSpike, so the new development is
happening there, which at the end looks better.


>  - Apache MyFaces Orchestra is ...
>

Few activity because for new projects it is better to use CDI and
DeltaSpike.


>  - Apache MyFaces Test is ...
>

There is activity on this part, because it is a fundamental component for
MyFaces Core.


>  - Apache MyFaces Commons is ...
>

This project just provide some small utilities.


>  - Apache MyFaces Sandbox is ...
>
>

No activity on this part, because it takes a lot of effort to build
another component library, given the good quality options
provided by other jsf libraries. In practice JSF components that
relies on some kind of javascript are not 100% reliable across
different JSF component libraries, which makes really hard to
build components, usually because javascript libraries conflict
between each other and because there is not an standard
javascript loader for JSF.

regards,

Leonardo Uribe


>
> UI-Component Sets:
>  - Apache Tobago is healthy and active.
>
>  - Apache Trinidad had three maintenance commits by two different new
> contributors this quarter, which was encouraged by having issue
> reporters submit fixes for their own issues.  There may still be life
> in this project.
>
> Add-ons and Extensions:
>  - Apache MyFaces Portlet Bridge is dead.  Last developer commit was
> Jan 2014.  We added a contributor who indicated interest in the
> project in May, but no activity has been forthcoming.  We will
> probably need assistance in moving this project to the attic.
>

Re: Request for comments on Myfaces project statuses

Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
All,

I forgot to say it in my other message, but thanks for all your
comments on the project statuses.  It made my job much easier.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Bill Lucy <wt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 @ Leonardo's and Mike's comments on MyFaces core.
>
> Best,
> Bill
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi I would love to have Ext-Scripting put on hiatus.
>> I simply dont have time to maintain it ATM due to job constraints
>> and there is no community around it anyways (no public interest).
>>
>> I still will however maintain the MyFaces core Javascripts in the future
>> as I used to have done it in the past.
>>
>> Werner
>>
>>
>> Am 05.10.15 um 20:05 schrieb Mike Kienenberger:
>>
>>> I'm in the process of compiling the Myfaces board report for October.
>>>
>>> Would anyone care to comment on the activity and health of the
>>> following subprojects?  I've already written something up for
>>> Trinidad, Tobago, and PortletBridge, which I've posted at the bottom,
>>> but we can revise those if necessary.
>>>
>>> JSF Implementation:
>>>   - Apache Myfaces Core is ...
>>>
>>> UI-Component Sets:
>>> - Myfaces Tomahawk is ...
>>>
>>> Add-ons and Extensions:
>>>
>>>   - Apache MyFaces CODI is ...
>>>   - Apache MyFaces Orchestra is ...
>>>   - Apache MyFaces ExtVal is ...
>>>   - Apache MyFaces Test is ...
>>>   - Apache MyFaces Commons is ...
>>>   - Apache MyFaces Ext-Scripting is ...
>>>   - Apache MyFaces Sandbox is ...
>>>
>>>
>>> UI-Component Sets:
>>>   - Apache Tobago is healthy and active.
>>>
>>>   - Apache Trinidad had three maintenance commits by two different new
>>> contributors this quarter, which was encouraged by having issue
>>> reporters submit fixes for their own issues.  There may still be life
>>> in this project.
>>>
>>> Add-ons and Extensions:
>>>   - Apache MyFaces Portlet Bridge is dead.  Last developer commit was
>>> Jan 2014.  We added a contributor who indicated interest in the
>>> project in May, but no activity has been forthcoming.  We will
>>> probably need assistance in moving this project to the attic.
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: Request for comments on Myfaces project statuses

Posted by Bill Lucy <wt...@gmail.com>.
+1 @ Leonardo's and Mike's comments on MyFaces core.

Best,
Bill

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi I would love to have Ext-Scripting put on hiatus.
> I simply dont have time to maintain it ATM due to job constraints
> and there is no community around it anyways (no public interest).
>
> I still will however maintain the MyFaces core Javascripts in the future
> as I used to have done it in the past.
>
> Werner
>
>
> Am 05.10.15 um 20:05 schrieb Mike Kienenberger:
>
> I'm in the process of compiling the Myfaces board report for October.
>>
>> Would anyone care to comment on the activity and health of the
>> following subprojects?  I've already written something up for
>> Trinidad, Tobago, and PortletBridge, which I've posted at the bottom,
>> but we can revise those if necessary.
>>
>> JSF Implementation:
>>   - Apache Myfaces Core is ...
>>
>> UI-Component Sets:
>> - Myfaces Tomahawk is ...
>>
>> Add-ons and Extensions:
>>
>>   - Apache MyFaces CODI is ...
>>   - Apache MyFaces Orchestra is ...
>>   - Apache MyFaces ExtVal is ...
>>   - Apache MyFaces Test is ...
>>   - Apache MyFaces Commons is ...
>>   - Apache MyFaces Ext-Scripting is ...
>>   - Apache MyFaces Sandbox is ...
>>
>>
>> UI-Component Sets:
>>   - Apache Tobago is healthy and active.
>>
>>   - Apache Trinidad had three maintenance commits by two different new
>> contributors this quarter, which was encouraged by having issue
>> reporters submit fixes for their own issues.  There may still be life
>> in this project.
>>
>> Add-ons and Extensions:
>>   - Apache MyFaces Portlet Bridge is dead.  Last developer commit was
>> Jan 2014.  We added a contributor who indicated interest in the
>> project in May, but no activity has been forthcoming.  We will
>> probably need assistance in moving this project to the attic.
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Request for comments on Myfaces project statuses

Posted by Werner Punz <we...@gmail.com>.
Hi I would love to have Ext-Scripting put on hiatus.
I simply dont have time to maintain it ATM due to job constraints
and there is no community around it anyways (no public interest).

I still will however maintain the MyFaces core Javascripts in the future 
as I used to have done it in the past.

Werner


Am 05.10.15 um 20:05 schrieb Mike Kienenberger:
> I'm in the process of compiling the Myfaces board report for October.
>
> Would anyone care to comment on the activity and health of the
> following subprojects?  I've already written something up for
> Trinidad, Tobago, and PortletBridge, which I've posted at the bottom,
> but we can revise those if necessary.
>
> JSF Implementation:
>   - Apache Myfaces Core is ...
>
> UI-Component Sets:
> - Myfaces Tomahawk is ...
>
> Add-ons and Extensions:
>
>   - Apache MyFaces CODI is ...
>   - Apache MyFaces Orchestra is ...
>   - Apache MyFaces ExtVal is ...
>   - Apache MyFaces Test is ...
>   - Apache MyFaces Commons is ...
>   - Apache MyFaces Ext-Scripting is ...
>   - Apache MyFaces Sandbox is ...
>
>
> UI-Component Sets:
>   - Apache Tobago is healthy and active.
>
>   - Apache Trinidad had three maintenance commits by two different new
> contributors this quarter, which was encouraged by having issue
> reporters submit fixes for their own issues.  There may still be life
> in this project.
>
> Add-ons and Extensions:
>   - Apache MyFaces Portlet Bridge is dead.  Last developer commit was
> Jan 2014.  We added a contributor who indicated interest in the
> project in May, but no activity has been forthcoming.  We will
> probably need assistance in moving this project to the attic.
>



Re: Request for comments on Myfaces project statuses

Posted by Gerhard Petracek <ge...@gmail.com>.
@mark: +1

regards,
gerhard



2015-10-06 9:44 GMT+02:00 Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>:

> Hi Mike!
>
> Comments inline
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> staub
>
>
> > Am 05.10.2015 um 20:05 schrieb Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > I'm in the process of compiling the Myfaces board report for October.
> >
> > Would anyone care to comment on the activity and health of the
> > following subprojects?  I've already written something up for
> > Trinidad, Tobago, and PortletBridge, which I've posted at the bottom,
> > but we can revise those if necessary.
> >
> > JSF Implementation:
> > - Apache Myfaces Core is …
> active and doing well
>
> >
> > UI-Component Sets:
> > - Myfaces Tomahawk is …
> still JSF-1.2 only and although it contains a few _very_ cool components
> it is dormant since a long time.
>
>
> >
> > Add-ons and Extensions:
> >
> > - Apache MyFaces CODI is …
> Basically deprecated and replaced by Apache DeltaSpike. I think we ported
> over all the features already
>
> > - Apache MyFaces Orchestra is …
> dormant afaik. Not updated since ages imo
>
> > - Apache MyFaces ExtVal is …
> in use in production and still maintained
>
> > - Apache MyFaces Test is …
> not quite sure on this one. Guess it’s used as well
>
> > - Apache MyFaces Commons is …
> contains a few nice parts which are still needed even with JSF-2.3. E.g.
> the resource handler
>
> > - Apache MyFaces Ext-Scripting is …
> no idea, Werner should know better
>
> > - Apache MyFaces Sandbox is …
> a sandbox? :)
>
> >
> >
> > UI-Component Sets:
> > - Apache Tobago is healthy and active.
> +1
>
> >
> > - Apache Trinidad had three maintenance commits by two different new
> > contributors this quarter, which was encouraged by having issue
> > reporters submit fixes for their own issues.  There may still be life
> > in this project.
> +1
>
> >
> > Add-ons and Extensions:
> > - Apache MyFaces Portlet Bridge is dead.  Last developer commit was
> > Jan 2014.  We added a contributor who indicated interest in the
> > project in May, but no activity has been forthcoming.  We will
> > probably need assistance in moving this project to the attic.
> +1
>
>

Re: Request for comments on Myfaces project statuses

Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
Hi Mike!

Comments inline

txs and LieGrue,
staub


> Am 05.10.2015 um 20:05 schrieb Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>:
> 
> I'm in the process of compiling the Myfaces board report for October.
> 
> Would anyone care to comment on the activity and health of the
> following subprojects?  I've already written something up for
> Trinidad, Tobago, and PortletBridge, which I've posted at the bottom,
> but we can revise those if necessary.
> 
> JSF Implementation:
> - Apache Myfaces Core is …
active and doing well

> 
> UI-Component Sets:
> - Myfaces Tomahawk is …
still JSF-1.2 only and although it contains a few _very_ cool components it is dormant since a long time.


> 
> Add-ons and Extensions:
> 
> - Apache MyFaces CODI is …
Basically deprecated and replaced by Apache DeltaSpike. I think we ported over all the features already

> - Apache MyFaces Orchestra is …
dormant afaik. Not updated since ages imo

> - Apache MyFaces ExtVal is …
in use in production and still maintained

> - Apache MyFaces Test is …
not quite sure on this one. Guess it’s used as well

> - Apache MyFaces Commons is …
contains a few nice parts which are still needed even with JSF-2.3. E.g. the resource handler

> - Apache MyFaces Ext-Scripting is …
no idea, Werner should know better

> - Apache MyFaces Sandbox is …
a sandbox? :) 

> 
> 
> UI-Component Sets:
> - Apache Tobago is healthy and active.
+1

> 
> - Apache Trinidad had three maintenance commits by two different new
> contributors this quarter, which was encouraged by having issue
> reporters submit fixes for their own issues.  There may still be life
> in this project.
+1

> 
> Add-ons and Extensions:
> - Apache MyFaces Portlet Bridge is dead.  Last developer commit was
> Jan 2014.  We added a contributor who indicated interest in the
> project in May, but no activity has been forthcoming.  We will
> probably need assistance in moving this project to the attic.
+1