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Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?

Hello,

We have a need to display tabular data in a Struts application. Seems simple
enough. Start researching but all off a sudden it's not so simple.

just a quick search finds a bunch of different frameworks (DisplayTag,
ValueList, TableTag, PagerTag).

Some would say that variety is good and I agree but I also want to make sure
we choose something that will work well with Struts and will be
supported/enhanced going forward.

Is there a preferred or recommended tag lib that should be used with Struts?

By the way, we're on Struts 1.2.7 and using JSP 1.2 and servlet 2.3.
Unfortunately, we cannot upgrade to a higher level off JSP/Servlet because
of the App Server (SAP's Netweaver) we're using.
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RE: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?

Posted by pantichd <pa...@firstenergycorp.com>.
Thanks for the info Dave.

My bad about the SAP comment. I had started another post
(http://www.nabble.com/Need-to-do-pagination-but-can%27t-use-DisplayTag-tf2111129.html)
specifically about the DisplayTag and in that post I noted that we were
using SAP. 

When I updated this post I didn't refer to that post.

Sorry about that!


David Friedman-2 wrote:
> 
> Psst.... the DisplayTag download page is what you want:
> http://displaytag.sourceforge.net/11/download.html
> 
> CLICKing through to it shows v1.1.  SCROLL down and
> you can download v1.0 an v1.0-rc2.  CLICK right below
> that and the links shows old versions 0.8.6 (I started
> with that ages ago) and 0.8.5 via the link:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73068&package_id=73060
> 
> I must have missed something in your first post as to
> why you would pass this on to SAP when you are simply
> a developer using their studio product.  Well, that is
> if I read your previous post correctly.  Just so they
> (SAP) know of this resource in case other clients ask
> or am I missing something important from a different
> post?
> 
> Regards,
> David
> 
> 

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Re: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?

Posted by Martin Gainty <mg...@hotmail.com>.
Yes The IDE can be used to generate the original project for quick prototype for your version of your vendor's webapp( e.g. Oracle/SAP/Websphere)
but then I would (via the IDE export) build with the IDE's exported build.xml 
(This would generate Dev/Test/Prod environments as well as to incorporate version checking scenarios for JSP 1.x vs JSP 2.x)

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Friedman" <hu...@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <us...@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?


> Psst.... the DisplayTag download page is what you want:
> http://displaytag.sourceforge.net/11/download.html
> 
> CLICKing through to it shows v1.1.  SCROLL down and
> you can download v1.0 an v1.0-rc2.  CLICK right below
> that and the links shows old versions 0.8.6 (I started
> with that ages ago) and 0.8.5 via the link:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73068&package_id=73060
> 
> I must have missed something in your first post as to
> why you would pass this on to SAP when you are simply
> a developer using their studio product.  Well, that is
> if I read your previous post correctly.  Just so they
> (SAP) know of this resource in case other clients ask
> or am I missing something important from a different
> post?
> 
> Regards,
> David
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pantichd [mailto:pantichd@firstenergycorp.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:27 PM
> To: user@struts.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for
> displaying tables?
> 
> Thanks Dave,
> 
> I have passed the info on to SAP's support and I'm trying some
> other things to see if I can get it working.
> 
> I'd also like to try an older version of DisplayTag but all I can
> find is 1.1. Where would I find an earlier version for download?
> 
> Oh, and thanks for the reminder about the display tag mailing list.
> I don't know why I didn't think of that. I always come to the
> Struts list first.  :)
> 
> 
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RE: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?

Posted by David Friedman <hu...@ix.netcom.com>.
Psst.... the DisplayTag download page is what you want:
http://displaytag.sourceforge.net/11/download.html

CLICKing through to it shows v1.1.  SCROLL down and
you can download v1.0 an v1.0-rc2.  CLICK right below
that and the links shows old versions 0.8.6 (I started
with that ages ago) and 0.8.5 via the link:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=73068&package_id=73060

I must have missed something in your first post as to
why you would pass this on to SAP when you are simply
a developer using their studio product.  Well, that is
if I read your previous post correctly.  Just so they
(SAP) know of this resource in case other clients ask
or am I missing something important from a different
post?

Regards,
David

-----Original Message-----
From: pantichd [mailto:pantichd@firstenergycorp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 12:27 PM
To: user@struts.apache.org
Subject: Re: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for
displaying tables?

Thanks Dave,

I have passed the info on to SAP's support and I'm trying some
other things to see if I can get it working.

I'd also like to try an older version of DisplayTag but all I can
find is 1.1. Where would I find an earlier version for download?

Oh, and thanks for the reminder about the display tag mailing list.
I don't know why I didn't think of that. I always come to the
Struts list first.  :)


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Re: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?

Posted by pantichd <pa...@firstenergycorp.com>.
Thanks Dave,

I have passed the info on to SAP's support and I'm trying some other things
to see if I can get it working.

I'd also like to try an older version of DisplayTag but all I can find is
1.1. Where would I find an earlier version for download?

Oh, and thanks for the reminder about the display tag mailing list. I don't
know why I didn't think of that. I always come to the Struts list first.  :
)



David Durham wrote:
> 
> pantichd wrote:
>> Some would say that variety is good and I agree but I also want to make
>> sure
>> we choose something that will work well with Struts and will be
>> supported/enhanced going forward.
> 
> I think displaytag is a reasonable choice.  There are displaytag forums 
> and displaytag mailing lists hosted by sourceforge.  You may get more 
> help there.  But, if you look in displaytag.tld (it's in META-INF/ of 
> displaytag.jar), the JSP version is 1.2 (I'm referring to 
> displaytag-1.1), so maybe you can give that info to your vendor with the 
> hope of getting a more helpful response.  Another thing to try is 
> deploying the displaytag examples war included in the binary (not sure 
> about source) distribution.  If that works, then you can get your app to 
> work.  If the example app doesn't work, then the problem is likely a bit 
> more tricky to find.
> 
> Another option is to use an older version of displaytag.  Realise you're 
> looking for something that will be "enhanced going forward," but you may 
> need to drop that aspect of your requirements if you're tied to older 
> versions of the Servlets and JSP specs (but not necessarily).
> 
> 
> -Dave
> 
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Re: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?

Posted by David Durham <dd...@vailsys.com>.
pantichd wrote:
> Some would say that variety is good and I agree but I also want to make sure
> we choose something that will work well with Struts and will be
> supported/enhanced going forward.

I think displaytag is a reasonable choice.  There are displaytag forums 
and displaytag mailing lists hosted by sourceforge.  You may get more 
help there.  But, if you look in displaytag.tld (it's in META-INF/ of 
displaytag.jar), the JSP version is 1.2 (I'm referring to 
displaytag-1.1), so maybe you can give that info to your vendor with the 
hope of getting a more helpful response.  Another thing to try is 
deploying the displaytag examples war included in the binary (not sure 
about source) distribution.  If that works, then you can get your app to 
work.  If the example app doesn't work, then the problem is likely a bit 
more tricky to find.

Another option is to use an older version of displaytag.  Realise you're 
looking for something that will be "enhanced going forward," but you may 
need to drop that aspect of your requirements if you're tied to older 
versions of the Servlets and JSP specs (but not necessarily).


-Dave

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Re: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?

Posted by pantichd <pa...@firstenergycorp.com>.
Frank,

It doesn't *have* to be a taglib but it's preferred because the developers
we support are already used to working with taglib but not really all that
familiar with JavaScript. 

I took a look at both of the tools you suggested. Nice!! 

Would love to try those but I'm afraid it won't help us with the situation
we're in right now because it would require going through the whole process
of justifying buying new software and then going through the approval
process, blah, blah, blah. Any of you who work in a large corporation know
what I'm talking about.   : (

Thanks Frank!


Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
> 
> Does it *have* to be a taglib?  And does it have to be free?  If the 
> answer to both is no, I *very* highly recommend:
> 
> www.activewidgets.com
> 
> I did about a weeks' worth of research last month trying to find the 
> best grid widget I could, and that one floated to the top pretty 
> quickly... the only other that was comparable over all was this:
> 
> http://scbr.com/docs/products/dhtmlxGrid/index.shtml
> 
> I can't vouch for that one because I actually discovered it only after 
> deciding on ActiveWidgets, but I can absolutely give an endorsement to 
> ActiveWidgets.  Been using it for a few weeks now, it's really fantastic.
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Choices, choices...How does one choose a taglib for displaying tables?

Posted by "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>.
Does it *have* to be a taglib?  And does it have to be free?  If the 
answer to both is no, I *very* highly recommend:

www.activewidgets.com

I did about a weeks' worth of research last month trying to find the 
best grid widget I could, and that one floated to the top pretty 
quickly... the only other that was comparable over all was this:

http://scbr.com/docs/products/dhtmlxGrid/index.shtml

I can't vouch for that one because I actually discovered it only after 
deciding on ActiveWidgets, but I can absolutely give an endorsement to 
ActiveWidgets.  Been using it for a few weeks now, it's really fantastic.

Frank

pantichd wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> We have a need to display tabular data in a Struts application. Seems simple
> enough. Start researching but all off a sudden it's not so simple.
> 
> just a quick search finds a bunch of different frameworks (DisplayTag,
> ValueList, TableTag, PagerTag).
> 
> Some would say that variety is good and I agree but I also want to make sure
> we choose something that will work well with Struts and will be
> supported/enhanced going forward.
> 
> Is there a preferred or recommended tag lib that should be used with Struts?
> 
> By the way, we're on Struts 1.2.7 and using JSP 1.2 and servlet 2.3.
> Unfortunately, we cannot upgrade to a higher level off JSP/Servlet because
> of the App Server (SAP's Netweaver) we're using.

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