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[jira] [Commented] (LUCENE-9406) Make it simpler to track IndexWriter's events

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Zach Chen commented on LUCENE-9406:
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Hi [~mikemccand], sorry for the delay on this as we were wrapping up the work on direct IO earlier.

I gave this some thought and have a follow up question.  Although the discussion was originally started around tracking events during merge, I also see that it can be generalized into metrics tracking in lucene for various activities in addition to merge, which does seems to be missing in lucene at the moment but available for solr from my quick search. Is adding a general purpose metric / statistics tracking capability something lucene would need currently, or do we want to focus on merge tracking for now? 

> Make it simpler to track IndexWriter's events
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LUCENE-9406
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-9406
>             Project: Lucene - Core
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: core/index
>            Reporter: Michael McCandless
>            Priority: Major
>
> This is the second spinoff from a [controversial PR to add a new index-time feature to Lucene to merge small segments during commit|https://github.com/apache/lucene-solr/pull/1552].  That change can substantially reduce the number of small index segments to search.
> In that PR, there was a new proposed interface, {{IndexWriterEvents}}, giving the application a chance to track when {{IndexWriter}} kicked off merges during commit, how many, how long it waited, how often it gave up waiting, etc.
> Such telemetry from production usage is really helpful when tuning settings like which merges (e.g. a size threshold) to attempt on commit, and how long to wait during commit, etc.
> I am splitting out this issue to explore possible approaches to do this.  E.g. [~simonw] proposed using a statistics class instead, but if I understood that correctly, I think that would put the role of aggregation inside {{IndexWriter}}, which is not ideal.
> Many interesting events, e.g. how many merges are being requested, how large are they, how long did they take to complete or fail, etc., can be gleaned by wrapping expert Lucene classes like {{MergePolicy}} and {{MergeScheduler}}.  But for those events that cannot (e.g. {{IndexWriter}} stopped waiting for merges during commit), it would be very helpful to have some simple way to track so applications can better tune.
> It is also possible to subclass {{IndexWriter}} and override key methods, but I think that is inherently risky as {{IndexWriter}}'s protected methods are not considered to be a stable API, and the synchronization used by {{IndexWriter}} is confusing.



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