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Posted to dev@struts.apache.org by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> on 2004/06/22 04:54:58 UTC
s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
I'd be very much in favor of moving to Subversion at any time and then doing the reorganization.
Like some others here, I'm using Subversion at my day job. It's been working like a charm for us. I think infrastructure would also like to see more Apache projects under Subversion, since it relieves some of the administration burdens.
-Ted.
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:45:12 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:48:42 -0700, Steve Raeburn
> <sr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> We don't keep the generated HTML files under CVS, so that doesn't
>> apply.
>>
>>
>> Basically, you need to generate the site locally, then upload it
>> to /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts on cvs.apache.org. (You should
>> have access as you're a member of the Jakarta group). You can do
>> that via a secure FTP client (I've used CuteFTP Pro which has
>> SSH2 support) or using SCP.
>>
>> If you upload new pages, make sure to set the Group access to +R+W
>>
>>
>> I know others have used a command line approach - tar, scp, untar
>> etc. I prefer the easy GUI approach ;-)
>>
>> We ought to look at moving the site files to the
>> struts.apache.org directory and redirecting the old Jakarta site.
>> Does anyone know if it's just a matter of changing the .htaccess
>> files? I guess we'd have to create an new one under
>> /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts to point to the strust directory.
>>
>
> The reason we haven't moved the site yet is because Ted had wanted
> to do some reorganising first. However, it's been a while, so at
> this point we might want to go ahead and do the move, and do any
> restructuring afterwards.
>
> The main issue with leaving the site where it is now is that the
> mbox archives for the mailing lists are not accessible, because of
> the redirect. Obviously, it would be better, too, to have the site
> under our new domain. ;-)
>
> As I understsand it, the move involves cloning the site into the
> struts.a.o location, removing the redirect from s.a.o to j.a.o/s,
> and adding a redirect from j.a.o/s to s.a.o. I'm not sure if
> there's anything else, but I don't think so.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:niall.pemberton@blueyonder.co.uk]
>>> Sent: June 12, 2004 9:27 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject:
>>> How To Refresh Strust Web Site
>>>
>>>
>>> I just committed a small change to the Validator User Guide -
>>> whats the process to refresh the Struts Web site so that it
>>> shows the latest version of the docs?
>>>
>>> I saw this is the apache guide, but didn't make much sense to
>>> me.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#web
>>>
>>>
>>> Niall
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Re: s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
+1 for moving before reorging
Is "reorging" even a word? ;)
--
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org>
To: "Struts Developers List" <de...@struts.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
OK, which of the existing Committers are volunteering to do the
reorganization under CVS?
I am volunteering to do it under Subversion.
Subversion is meant as a replacement for CVS, and the learning curve is
practically nill, especially for everyday commits and updates. It does offer
features like directory moves and file renames that will be very useful in a
reorganization. If we are going to move Subversion, and it seems obvious
that at some point we will, there might be no better time.
-Ted.
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:24:26 -0700 (PDT), Martin Cooper wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
>
>
>> I'd be very much in favor of moving to Subversion at any time and
>> then doing the reorganization.
>>
>
> I'd be OK with moving to SVN at some point, but I don't feel a need
> to do so before moving or reorganising the site. In particular, the
> latter can be done without acquiring a new skill set, which means
> by any existing committer. ;-)
>
>> Like some others here, I'm using Subversion at my day job. It's
>> been working like a charm for us. I think infrastructure would
>> also like to see more Apache projects under Subversion, since it
>> relieves some of the administration burdens.
>>
>
> I like the idea of moving to SVN. Unfortunately, as I'm sure is
> fairly obvious, I've had very little time to spend on Apache
> projects recently, and certainly none to spend on learning a new
> SCM system. ;-(
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
>> -Ted.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:45:12 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:48:42 -0700, Steve Raeburn
>>> <sr...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We don't keep the generated HTML files under CVS, so that
>>>> doesn't apply.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Basically, you need to generate the site locally, then upload
>>>> it to /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts on cvs.apache.org. (You
>>>> should have access as you're a member of the Jakarta group).
>>>> You can do that via a secure FTP client (I've used CuteFTP
>>>> Pro which has SSH2 support) or using SCP.
>>>>
>>>> If you upload new pages, make sure to set the Group access to
>>>> +R+W
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know others have used a command line approach - tar, scp,
>>>> untar etc. I prefer the easy GUI approach ;-)
>>>>
>>>> We ought to look at moving the site files to the
>>>> struts.apache.org directory and redirecting the old Jakarta
>>>> site. Does anyone know if it's just a matter of changing the
>>>> .htaccess files? I guess we'd have to create an new one under
>>>> /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts to point to the strust
>>>> directory.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The reason we haven't moved the site yet is because Ted had
>>> wanted to do some reorganising first. However, it's been a
>>> while, so at this point we might want to go ahead and do the
>>> move, and do any restructuring afterwards.
>>>
>>> The main issue with leaving the site where it is now is that
>>> the mbox archives for the mailing lists are not accessible,
>>> because of the redirect. Obviously, it would be better, too, to
>>> have the site under our new domain. ;-)
>>>
>>> As I understsand it, the move involves cloning the site into
>>> the struts.a.o location, removing the redirect from s.a.o to
>>> j.a.o/s, and adding a redirect from j.a.o/s to s.a.o. I'm not
>>> sure if there's anything else, but I don't think so.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Martin Cooper
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Niall Pemberton
>>>>> [mailto:niall.pemberton@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: June 12,
>>>>> 2004 9:27 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: How To
>>>>> Refresh Strust Web Site
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just committed a small change to the Validator User Guide
>>>>> - whats the process to refresh the Struts Web site so that
>>>>> it shows the latest version of the docs?
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw this is the apache guide, but didn't make much sense
>>>>> to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#web
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Niall
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Re: s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
OK, which of the existing Committers are volunteering to do the reorganization under CVS?
I am volunteering to do it under Subversion.
Subversion is meant as a replacement for CVS, and the learning curve is practically nill, especially for everyday commits and updates. It does offer features like directory moves and file renames that will be very useful in a reorganization. If we are going to move Subversion, and it seems obvious that at some point we will, there might be no better time.
-Ted.
On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:24:26 -0700 (PDT), Martin Cooper wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
>
>
>> I'd be very much in favor of moving to Subversion at any time and
>> then doing the reorganization.
>>
>
> I'd be OK with moving to SVN at some point, but I don't feel a need
> to do so before moving or reorganising the site. In particular, the
> latter can be done without acquiring a new skill set, which means
> by any existing committer. ;-)
>
>> Like some others here, I'm using Subversion at my day job. It's
>> been working like a charm for us. I think infrastructure would
>> also like to see more Apache projects under Subversion, since it
>> relieves some of the administration burdens.
>>
>
> I like the idea of moving to SVN. Unfortunately, as I'm sure is
> fairly obvious, I've had very little time to spend on Apache
> projects recently, and certainly none to spend on learning a new
> SCM system. ;-(
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>
>> -Ted.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:45:12 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:48:42 -0700, Steve Raeburn
>>> <sr...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We don't keep the generated HTML files under CVS, so that
>>>> doesn't apply.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Basically, you need to generate the site locally, then upload
>>>> it to /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts on cvs.apache.org. (You
>>>> should have access as you're a member of the Jakarta group).
>>>> You can do that via a secure FTP client (I've used CuteFTP
>>>> Pro which has SSH2 support) or using SCP.
>>>>
>>>> If you upload new pages, make sure to set the Group access to
>>>> +R+W
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know others have used a command line approach - tar, scp,
>>>> untar etc. I prefer the easy GUI approach ;-)
>>>>
>>>> We ought to look at moving the site files to the
>>>> struts.apache.org directory and redirecting the old Jakarta
>>>> site. Does anyone know if it's just a matter of changing the
>>>> .htaccess files? I guess we'd have to create an new one under
>>>> /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts to point to the strust
>>>> directory.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The reason we haven't moved the site yet is because Ted had
>>> wanted to do some reorganising first. However, it's been a
>>> while, so at this point we might want to go ahead and do the
>>> move, and do any restructuring afterwards.
>>>
>>> The main issue with leaving the site where it is now is that
>>> the mbox archives for the mailing lists are not accessible,
>>> because of the redirect. Obviously, it would be better, too, to
>>> have the site under our new domain. ;-)
>>>
>>> As I understsand it, the move involves cloning the site into
>>> the struts.a.o location, removing the redirect from s.a.o to
>>> j.a.o/s, and adding a redirect from j.a.o/s to s.a.o. I'm not
>>> sure if there's anything else, but I don't think so.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Martin Cooper
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Niall Pemberton
>>>>> [mailto:niall.pemberton@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: June 12,
>>>>> 2004 9:27 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: How To
>>>>> Refresh Strust Web Site
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just committed a small change to the Validator User Guide
>>>>> - whats the process to refresh the Struts Web site so that
>>>>> it shows the latest version of the docs?
>>>>>
>>>>> I saw this is the apache guide, but didn't make much sense
>>>>> to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#web
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Niall
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Re: s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
Posted by Martin Cooper <ma...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, Ted Husted wrote:
> I'd be very much in favor of moving to Subversion at any time and then doing the reorganization.
I'd be OK with moving to SVN at some point, but I don't feel a need to do
so before moving or reorganising the site. In particular, the latter can
be done without acquiring a new skill set, which means by any existing
committer. ;-)
> Like some others here, I'm using Subversion at my day job. It's been working like a charm for us. I think infrastructure would also like to see more Apache projects under Subversion, since it relieves some of the administration burdens.
I like the idea of moving to SVN. Unfortunately, as I'm sure is fairly
obvious, I've had very little time to spend on Apache projects recently,
and certainly none to spend on learning a new SCM system. ;-(
--
Martin Cooper
> -Ted.
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:45:12 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:48:42 -0700, Steve Raeburn
>> <sr...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We don't keep the generated HTML files under CVS, so that doesn't
>>> apply.
>>>
>>>
>>> Basically, you need to generate the site locally, then upload it
>>> to /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts on cvs.apache.org. (You should
>>> have access as you're a member of the Jakarta group). You can do
>>> that via a secure FTP client (I've used CuteFTP Pro which has
>>> SSH2 support) or using SCP.
>>>
>>> If you upload new pages, make sure to set the Group access to +R+W
>>>
>>>
>>> I know others have used a command line approach - tar, scp, untar
>>> etc. I prefer the easy GUI approach ;-)
>>>
>>> We ought to look at moving the site files to the
>>> struts.apache.org directory and redirecting the old Jakarta site.
>>> Does anyone know if it's just a matter of changing the .htaccess
>>> files? I guess we'd have to create an new one under
>>> /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts to point to the strust directory.
>>>
>>
>> The reason we haven't moved the site yet is because Ted had wanted
>> to do some reorganising first. However, it's been a while, so at
>> this point we might want to go ahead and do the move, and do any
>> restructuring afterwards.
>>
>> The main issue with leaving the site where it is now is that the
>> mbox archives for the mailing lists are not accessible, because of
>> the redirect. Obviously, it would be better, too, to have the site
>> under our new domain. ;-)
>>
>> As I understsand it, the move involves cloning the site into the
>> struts.a.o location, removing the redirect from s.a.o to j.a.o/s,
>> and adding a redirect from j.a.o/s to s.a.o. I'm not sure if
>> there's anything else, but I don't think so.
>>
>> --
>> Martin Cooper
>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:niall.pemberton@blueyonder.co.uk]
>>>> Sent: June 12, 2004 9:27 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject:
>>>> How To Refresh Strust Web Site
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just committed a small change to the Validator User Guide -
>>>> whats the process to refresh the Struts Web site so that it
>>>> shows the latest version of the docs?
>>>>
>>>> I saw this is the apache guide, but didn't make much sense to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#web
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Niall
>
>
>
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RE: s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
Posted by Steve Raeburn <sr...@apache.org>.
I don't feel any need to change - CVS does everything I need for now -
but I'm not averse to Subversion, providing the Eclipse plug-in is as
good as the Eclipse CVS integration. I've heard it is pretty good, but
if anyone knows for sure, please share your experience.
A firm +0, then ;-)
Steve
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
> Sent: June 21, 2004 7:55 PM
> To: Struts Developers List
> Subject: s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
>
>
> I'd be very much in favor of moving to Subversion at any time
> and then doing the reorganization.
>
> Like some others here, I'm using Subversion at my day job.
> It's been working like a charm for us. I think infrastructure
> would also like to see more Apache projects under Subversion,
> since it relieves some of the administration burdens.
>
> -Ted.
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:45:12 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:48:42 -0700, Steve Raeburn
> > <sr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> We don't keep the generated HTML files under CVS, so that doesn't
> >> apply.
> >>
> >>
> >> Basically, you need to generate the site locally, then upload it
> >> to /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts on cvs.apache.org. (You should
> >> have access as you're a member of the Jakarta group). You can do
> >> that via a secure FTP client (I've used CuteFTP Pro which has
> >> SSH2 support) or using SCP.
> >>
> >> If you upload new pages, make sure to set the Group access to +R+W
> >>
> >>
> >> I know others have used a command line approach - tar, scp, untar
> >> etc. I prefer the easy GUI approach ;-)
> >>
> >> We ought to look at moving the site files to the
> >> struts.apache.org directory and redirecting the old Jakarta site.
> >> Does anyone know if it's just a matter of changing the .htaccess
> >> files? I guess we'd have to create an new one under
> >> /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts to point to the strust directory.
> >>
> >
> > The reason we haven't moved the site yet is because Ted had wanted
> > to do some reorganising first. However, it's been a while, so at
> > this point we might want to go ahead and do the move, and do any
> > restructuring afterwards.
> >
> > The main issue with leaving the site where it is now is that the
> > mbox archives for the mailing lists are not accessible, because of
> > the redirect. Obviously, it would be better, too, to have the site
> > under our new domain. ;-)
> >
> > As I understsand it, the move involves cloning the site into the
> > struts.a.o location, removing the redirect from s.a.o to j.a.o/s,
> > and adding a redirect from j.a.o/s to s.a.o. I'm not sure if
> > there's anything else, but I don't think so.
> >
> > --
> > Martin Cooper
> >
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:niall.pemberton@blueyonder.co.uk]
> >>> Sent: June 12, 2004 9:27 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject:
> >>> How To Refresh Strust Web Site
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I just committed a small change to the Validator User Guide -
> >>> whats the process to refresh the Struts Web site so that it
> >>> shows the latest version of the docs?
> >>>
> >>> I saw this is the apache guide, but didn't make much sense to
> >>> me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#web
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Niall
>
>
>
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RE: s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
Posted by James Holmes <ja...@jamesholmes.com>.
+1 for subversion
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 9:55 PM
To: Struts Developers List
Subject: s.a.o Repository (was Re: How To Refresh Strust Web site)
I'd be very much in favor of moving to Subversion at any time and then doing
the reorganization.
Like some others here, I'm using Subversion at my day job. It's been working
like a charm for us. I think infrastructure would also like to see more
Apache projects under Subversion, since it relieves some of the
administration burdens.
-Ted.
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:45:12 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 18:48:42 -0700, Steve Raeburn
> <sr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> We don't keep the generated HTML files under CVS, so that doesn't
>> apply.
>>
>>
>> Basically, you need to generate the site locally, then upload it
>> to /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts on cvs.apache.org. (You should
>> have access as you're a member of the Jakarta group). You can do
>> that via a secure FTP client (I've used CuteFTP Pro which has
>> SSH2 support) or using SCP.
>>
>> If you upload new pages, make sure to set the Group access to +R+W
>>
>>
>> I know others have used a command line approach - tar, scp, untar
>> etc. I prefer the easy GUI approach ;-)
>>
>> We ought to look at moving the site files to the
>> struts.apache.org directory and redirecting the old Jakarta site.
>> Does anyone know if it's just a matter of changing the .htaccess
>> files? I guess we'd have to create an new one under
>> /www/jakarta.apache.org/struts to point to the strust directory.
>>
>
> The reason we haven't moved the site yet is because Ted had wanted
> to do some reorganising first. However, it's been a while, so at
> this point we might want to go ahead and do the move, and do any
> restructuring afterwards.
>
> The main issue with leaving the site where it is now is that the
> mbox archives for the mailing lists are not accessible, because of
> the redirect. Obviously, it would be better, too, to have the site
> under our new domain. ;-)
>
> As I understsand it, the move involves cloning the site into the
> struts.a.o location, removing the redirect from s.a.o to j.a.o/s,
> and adding a redirect from j.a.o/s to s.a.o. I'm not sure if
> there's anything else, but I don't think so.
>
> --
> Martin Cooper
>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Niall Pemberton [mailto:niall.pemberton@blueyonder.co.uk]
>>> Sent: June 12, 2004 9:27 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject:
>>> How To Refresh Strust Web Site
>>>
>>>
>>> I just committed a small change to the Validator User Guide -
>>> whats the process to refresh the Struts Web site so that it
>>> shows the latest version of the docs?
>>>
>>> I saw this is the apache guide, but didn't make much sense to
>>> me.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#web
>>>
>>>
>>> Niall
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