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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> on 2006/03/07 14:49:47 UTC
Component status pages (was:Re: any donations expected for awt and
swing?)
Tim Ellison wrote:
> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>
>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>
>>> Probably best to put the 'concerted work in progress' description on the
>>> wiki, so anyone can join in; the website status page was intended to be
>>> more of a current state of the code overview. We should also start to
>>> set ourselves some goals, in terms of applications to run, etc.
>>>
>> Why not have "started" on the webpage, and then a like to the wiki page
>> if there is one?
>>
>> Or just encourage people to ask here on the dev list...
>>
>
> Yes, that would be fine. If somebody wants to hack the wiki for module
> status pages, I'll volunteer to point to the website to them.
>
To start with (because it is easier for people to update) I've
replicated Tim's table on the Wiki
(here:http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/component_development_status). I've
linked one component (j.l.mangement) to a seperate page and marked it as
"started". How about other people marking up the areas that they are
working in?
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
>>> If you want to make a start on the wiki page that would be good, or if
>>> anyone else has an idea for tracking intent...
>>>
>>> It's also worth mentioning that I don't believe we should be exclusive
>>> about areas of work within, and contribution to, Harmony.
>>>
>> Absolutely.
>>
>>
>>> While I
>>> understand that the goal is to minimize redundant work, we may find
>>> ourselves in the situation of having more than one implementation of the
>>> same APIs (we already saw this happen with 'security' and 'security2'
>>> contributions). This is no bad thing as it allows us to evaluate the
>>> best technical option (quickly) and proceed with the combined group of
>>> experts collaborating on a single code base. I hope we can continue to
>>> do so 'harmoniously'.
>>>
>> Choice and competition is good. This isn't "live or die" competition,
>> but "we can choose best of breed" competition, and we all benefit. There
>> are no losers.
>>
>> geir
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> karan malhi wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am writing the interfaces for the javax.accessibility package. Some of
>>>> the interfaces are dependent on classes from the awt package. Are we
>>>> expecting any donations for awt, swing packages?
>>>> If donations are not expected then what approach should I take? Should I
>>>> start writing stuff for awt and swing (on which accessibility depends
>>>> on) so that accessibility classes compile during a build in harmony?
>>>> Please guide me here.
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, once a volunteer starts working on a "Missing" module as
>>>> stated on
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/status.html
>>>>
>>>> , should the status be changed to something else like "Work in progress"
>>>> or something?
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Re: Component status pages
Posted by Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>.
2006/3/8, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>:
> Hey - looks great Nathan! I'll tidy up the JLM one to look similar
>
> Paulex - it looks to me as though you could create a similar page for
> the NIO, is that right?
>
> Vladimir - is it you who is mainly looking at security? How about a
> similar page on what you are doing?
I'm volunteering to make a page for security/crypto/x-net/auth/related providers
Thanks,
Mikhail
Re: Component status pages
Posted by Mikhail Loenko <ml...@gmail.com>.
I have added status pages for security, crypto, and x-net
http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/component_development_status
Will do this for auth also
Thanks,
Mikhail
Re: Component status pages
Posted by Paulex Yang <pa...@gmail.com>.
Mark and Chris
Thank you very much for your warm heart. I checked out Wiki's online
help, and it is true, the WikiName will be rendered as link
automatically, but unluckily the "~" prefix doesn't work:(. I find two
solutions from the document
1. insert six consecutive single quotes, like this: Wiki''''''Name (who
created this idea?)
2. exclamation mark as prefix , i.e, !WikiName, (this is better, and is
what I chose)
P.S. I have sent a message several hours ago on this thread, but seems
it has disappeared silently, and even Thunderbird failed to download
mails these hours :-( . Bad luck never come alone.
Chris Gray wrote:
> On Thursday 09 March 2006 11:41, Paulex Yang wrote:
>
>
>> But there is a very silly question, why several class names, such as
>> FileChannel, CharBuffer, etc, are considered as hyper link
>> automatically, while some other class name, such as Closeable are
>> rendered as plain text? Actually there are no relevant pages available
>> for these names, and I did nothing special to them. Help me! O:-)
>>
>
> Probably because the wiki software considers any word with embedded capitals
> to be a WikiName, and hence a link to a page of that name within the wiki.
> You'll have to consult the documentation for the wiki software to find how to
> work around this feature. (A good candidate for the most annoying thing ever
> invented, if you ask me).
>
> Have fun,
>
> Chris
>
>
--
Paulex Yang
China Software Development Lab
IBM
Re: Component status pages
Posted by Chris Gray <ch...@kiffer.be>.
On Thursday 09 March 2006 11:41, Paulex Yang wrote:
>
> But there is a very silly question, why several class names, such as
> FileChannel, CharBuffer, etc, are considered as hyper link
> automatically, while some other class name, such as Closeable are
> rendered as plain text? Actually there are no relevant pages available
> for these names, and I did nothing special to them. Help me! O:-)
Probably because the wiki software considers any word with embedded capitals
to be a WikiName, and hence a link to a page of that name within the wiki.
You'll have to consult the documentation for the wiki software to find how to
work around this feature. (A good candidate for the most annoying thing ever
invented, if you ask me).
Have fun,
Chris
--
Chris Gray /k/ Embedded Java Solutions BE0503765045
Embedded & Mobile Java, OSGi http://www.k-embedded-java.com/
chris.gray@kiffer.be +32 3 216 0369
Re: Component status pages
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Geir - I'm not really sure how this would work. The wiki is good because
it's quick, (relatively) easy to update and people who don't have
committer status can say what they are doing. The web pages are good for
information that doesn't change so fast, but I think they'd just be
constantly out of date if we tried to use them the way the wiki is being
used.
> Or stop using the *@#!@ wiki for documentation... :D
>
> Patches for website welcome!
>
> geir
>
>
> Mark Hindess wrote:
>> FileChannel and CharBuffer are consider CamelCase by the wiki software
>> where as names with only one upper case letter are not. Try prefixing
>> them with a '~' character if you wish to prevent the wiki software
>> making them links - e.g. '~FileChannel'.
>>
>> -Mark.
>>
>> On 3/9/06, Paulex Yang <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I have updated the nio-channels page. Pls. refer to
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/NIO-CHANNELS
>>>
>>> But there is a very silly question, why several class names, such as
>>> FileChannel, CharBuffer, etc, are considered as hyper link
>>> automatically, while some other class name, such as Closeable are
>>> rendered as plain text? Actually there are no relevant pages available
>>> for these names, and I did nothing special to them. Help me! O:-)
>>
>>
>
Re: Component status pages
Posted by Geir Magnusson Jr <ge...@pobox.com>.
Or stop using the *@#!@ wiki for documentation... :D
Patches for website welcome!
geir
Mark Hindess wrote:
> FileChannel and CharBuffer are consider CamelCase by the wiki software
> where as names with only one upper case letter are not. Try prefixing
> them with a '~' character if you wish to prevent the wiki software
> making them links - e.g. '~FileChannel'.
>
> -Mark.
>
> On 3/9/06, Paulex Yang <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have updated the nio-channels page. Pls. refer to
>> http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/NIO-CHANNELS
>>
>> But there is a very silly question, why several class names, such as
>> FileChannel, CharBuffer, etc, are considered as hyper link
>> automatically, while some other class name, such as Closeable are
>> rendered as plain text? Actually there are no relevant pages available
>> for these names, and I did nothing special to them. Help me! O:-)
>
>
Re: Component status pages
Posted by Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com>.
FileChannel and CharBuffer are consider CamelCase by the wiki software
where as names with only one upper case letter are not. Try prefixing
them with a '~' character if you wish to prevent the wiki software
making them links - e.g. '~FileChannel'.
-Mark.
On 3/9/06, Paulex Yang <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have updated the nio-channels page. Pls. refer to
> http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/NIO-CHANNELS
>
> But there is a very silly question, why several class names, such as
> FileChannel, CharBuffer, etc, are considered as hyper link
> automatically, while some other class name, such as Closeable are
> rendered as plain text? Actually there are no relevant pages available
> for these names, and I did nothing special to them. Help me! O:-)
Re: Component status pages
Posted by Paulex Yang <pa...@gmail.com>.
I have updated the nio-channels page. Pls. refer to
http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/NIO-CHANNELS
But there is a very silly question, why several class names, such as
FileChannel, CharBuffer, etc, are considered as hyper link
automatically, while some other class name, such as Closeable are
rendered as plain text? Actually there are no relevant pages available
for these names, and I did nothing special to them. Help me! O:-)
Paulex Yang wrote:
> Zoe,
>
> I'm glad to update page for nio-channels component.
>
> zoe slattery wrote:
>> Hey - looks great Nathan! I'll tidy up the JLM one to look similar
>>
>> Paulex - it looks to me as though you could create a similar page for
>> the NIO, is that right?
>>
>> Vladimir - is it you who is mainly looking at security? How about a
>> similar page on what you are doing?
>>
>>
>> Nathan Beyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: zoe slattery [mailto:zoe.slattery@googlemail.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:50 AM
>>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Component status pages (was:Re: any donations expected for
>>>> awt
>>>> and swing?)
>>>>
>>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Probably best to put the 'concerted work in progress'
>>>>>>> description on
>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>> wiki, so anyone can join in; the website status page was
>>>>>>> intended to
>>>>>>>
>>>> be
>>>>
>>>>>>> more of a current state of the code overview. We should also
>>>>>>> start to
>>>>>>> set ourselves some goals, in terms of applications to run, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not have "started" on the webpage, and then a like to the
>>>>>> wiki page
>>>>>> if there is one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or just encourage people to ask here on the dev list...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, that would be fine. If somebody wants to hack the wiki for
>>>>> module
>>>>> status pages, I'll volunteer to point to the website to them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> To start with (because it is easier for people to update) I've
>>>> replicated Tim's table on the Wiki
>>>> (here:http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/component_development_status).
>>>> I've
>>>> linked one component (j.l.mangement) to a seperate page and marked
>>>> it as
>>>> "started". How about other people marking up the areas that they are
>>>> working in?
>>>>
>>> [Nathan Beyer] I added a LUNI page [1]. I've been trying to
>>> implement and
>>> stub out all of the missing Java 5 stuff, so I've put some of my
>>> information
>>> up there.
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/LUNI
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want to make a start on the wiki page that would be good,
>>>>>>> or if
>>>>>>> anyone else has an idea for tracking intent...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's also worth mentioning that I don't believe we should be
>>>>>>> exclusive
>>>>>>> about areas of work within, and contribution to, Harmony.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I
>>>>>>> understand that the goal is to minimize redundant work, we may find
>>>>>>> ourselves in the situation of having more than one
>>>>>>> implementation of
>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>> same APIs (we already saw this happen with 'security' and
>>>>>>> 'security2'
>>>>>>> contributions). This is no bad thing as it allows us to
>>>>>>> evaluate the
>>>>>>> best technical option (quickly) and proceed with the combined
>>>>>>> group of
>>>>>>> experts collaborating on a single code base. I hope we can
>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>>> do so 'harmoniously'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Choice and competition is good. This isn't "live or die"
>>>>>> competition,
>>>>>> but "we can choose best of breed" competition, and we all benefit.
>>>>>>
>>>> There
>>>>
>>>>>> are no losers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> karan malhi wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am writing the interfaces for the javax.accessibility
>>>>>>>> package. Some
>>>>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>>>>> the interfaces are dependent on classes from the awt package.
>>>>>>>> Are we
>>>>>>>> expecting any donations for awt, swing packages?
>>>>>>>> If donations are not expected then what approach should I take?
>>>>>>>>
>>>> Should I
>>>>
>>>>>>>> start writing stuff for awt and swing (on which accessibility
>>>>>>>>
>>>> depends
>>>>
>>>>>>>> on) so that accessibility classes compile during a build in
>>>>>>>> harmony?
>>>>>>>> Please guide me here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Secondly, once a volunteer starts working on a "Missing" module as
>>>>>>>> stated on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/status.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> , should the status be changed to something else like "Work in
>>>>>>>>
>>>> progress"
>>>>
>>>>>>>> or something?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Paulex Yang
China Software Development Lab
IBM
Re: Component status pages
Posted by Paulex Yang <pa...@gmail.com>.
Zoe,
I'm glad to update page for nio-channels component.
zoe slattery wrote:
> Hey - looks great Nathan! I'll tidy up the JLM one to look similar
>
> Paulex - it looks to me as though you could create a similar page for
> the NIO, is that right?
>
> Vladimir - is it you who is mainly looking at security? How about a
> similar page on what you are doing?
>
>
> Nathan Beyer wrote:
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: zoe slattery [mailto:zoe.slattery@googlemail.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:50 AM
>>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Component status pages (was:Re: any donations expected for awt
>>> and swing?)
>>>
>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>
>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably best to put the 'concerted work in progress' description on
>>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>> wiki, so anyone can join in; the website status page was intended to
>>>>>>
>>> be
>>>
>>>>>> more of a current state of the code overview. We should also
>>>>>> start to
>>>>>> set ourselves some goals, in terms of applications to run, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why not have "started" on the webpage, and then a like to the wiki
>>>>> page
>>>>> if there is one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or just encourage people to ask here on the dev list...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, that would be fine. If somebody wants to hack the wiki for
>>>> module
>>>> status pages, I'll volunteer to point to the website to them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> To start with (because it is easier for people to update) I've
>>> replicated Tim's table on the Wiki
>>> (here:http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/component_development_status).
>>> I've
>>> linked one component (j.l.mangement) to a seperate page and marked
>>> it as
>>> "started". How about other people marking up the areas that they are
>>> working in?
>>>
>> [Nathan Beyer] I added a LUNI page [1]. I've been trying to implement
>> and
>> stub out all of the missing Java 5 stuff, so I've put some of my
>> information
>> up there.
>>
>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/LUNI
>>
>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to make a start on the wiki page that would be good,
>>>>>> or if
>>>>>> anyone else has an idea for tracking intent...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's also worth mentioning that I don't believe we should be
>>>>>> exclusive
>>>>>> about areas of work within, and contribution to, Harmony.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> While I
>>>>>> understand that the goal is to minimize redundant work, we may find
>>>>>> ourselves in the situation of having more than one implementation of
>>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>>>> same APIs (we already saw this happen with 'security' and
>>>>>> 'security2'
>>>>>> contributions). This is no bad thing as it allows us to evaluate
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> best technical option (quickly) and proceed with the combined
>>>>>> group of
>>>>>> experts collaborating on a single code base. I hope we can continue
>>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>>>> do so 'harmoniously'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Choice and competition is good. This isn't "live or die"
>>>>> competition,
>>>>> but "we can choose best of breed" competition, and we all benefit.
>>>>>
>>> There
>>>
>>>>> are no losers.
>>>>>
>>>>> geir
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> karan malhi wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am writing the interfaces for the javax.accessibility package.
>>>>>>> Some
>>>>>>>
>>> of
>>>
>>>>>>> the interfaces are dependent on classes from the awt package.
>>>>>>> Are we
>>>>>>> expecting any donations for awt, swing packages?
>>>>>>> If donations are not expected then what approach should I take?
>>>>>>>
>>> Should I
>>>
>>>>>>> start writing stuff for awt and swing (on which accessibility
>>>>>>>
>>> depends
>>>
>>>>>>> on) so that accessibility classes compile during a build in
>>>>>>> harmony?
>>>>>>> Please guide me here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Secondly, once a volunteer starts working on a "Missing" module as
>>>>>>> stated on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/status.html
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> , should the status be changed to something else like "Work in
>>>>>>>
>>> progress"
>>>
>>>>>>> or something?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
--
Paulex Yang
China Software Development Lab
IBM
Re: Component status pages
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Hey - looks great Nathan! I'll tidy up the JLM one to look similar
Paulex - it looks to me as though you could create a similar page for
the NIO, is that right?
Vladimir - is it you who is mainly looking at security? How about a
similar page on what you are doing?
Nathan Beyer wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: zoe slattery [mailto:zoe.slattery@googlemail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:50 AM
>> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Component status pages (was:Re: any donations expected for awt
>> and swing?)
>>
>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Probably best to put the 'concerted work in progress' description on
>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> wiki, so anyone can join in; the website status page was intended to
>>>>>
>> be
>>
>>>>> more of a current state of the code overview. We should also start to
>>>>> set ourselves some goals, in terms of applications to run, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Why not have "started" on the webpage, and then a like to the wiki page
>>>> if there is one?
>>>>
>>>> Or just encourage people to ask here on the dev list...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes, that would be fine. If somebody wants to hack the wiki for module
>>> status pages, I'll volunteer to point to the website to them.
>>>
>>>
>> To start with (because it is easier for people to update) I've
>> replicated Tim's table on the Wiki
>> (here:http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/component_development_status). I've
>> linked one component (j.l.mangement) to a seperate page and marked it as
>> "started". How about other people marking up the areas that they are
>> working in?
>>
> [Nathan Beyer] I added a LUNI page [1]. I've been trying to implement and
> stub out all of the missing Java 5 stuff, so I've put some of my information
> up there.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/LUNI
>
>
>>> Regards,
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> If you want to make a start on the wiki page that would be good, or if
>>>>> anyone else has an idea for tracking intent...
>>>>>
>>>>> It's also worth mentioning that I don't believe we should be exclusive
>>>>> about areas of work within, and contribution to, Harmony.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Absolutely.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> While I
>>>>> understand that the goal is to minimize redundant work, we may find
>>>>> ourselves in the situation of having more than one implementation of
>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>> same APIs (we already saw this happen with 'security' and 'security2'
>>>>> contributions). This is no bad thing as it allows us to evaluate the
>>>>> best technical option (quickly) and proceed with the combined group of
>>>>> experts collaborating on a single code base. I hope we can continue
>>>>>
>> to
>>
>>>>> do so 'harmoniously'.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Choice and competition is good. This isn't "live or die" competition,
>>>> but "we can choose best of breed" competition, and we all benefit.
>>>>
>> There
>>
>>>> are no losers.
>>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> karan malhi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am writing the interfaces for the javax.accessibility package. Some
>>>>>>
>> of
>>
>>>>>> the interfaces are dependent on classes from the awt package. Are we
>>>>>> expecting any donations for awt, swing packages?
>>>>>> If donations are not expected then what approach should I take?
>>>>>>
>> Should I
>>
>>>>>> start writing stuff for awt and swing (on which accessibility
>>>>>>
>> depends
>>
>>>>>> on) so that accessibility classes compile during a build in harmony?
>>>>>> Please guide me here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Secondly, once a volunteer starts working on a "Missing" module as
>>>>>> stated on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/status.html
>>
>>>>>> , should the status be changed to something else like "Work in
>>>>>>
>> progress"
>>
>>>>>> or something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>
>
>
RE: Component status pages (was:Re: any donations expected for awt and swing?)
Posted by Nathan Beyer <nb...@kc.rr.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zoe slattery [mailto:zoe.slattery@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:50 AM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Component status pages (was:Re: any donations expected for awt
> and swing?)
>
> Tim Ellison wrote:
> > Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
> >
> >> Tim Ellison wrote:
> >>
> >>> Probably best to put the 'concerted work in progress' description on
> the
> >>> wiki, so anyone can join in; the website status page was intended to
> be
> >>> more of a current state of the code overview. We should also start to
> >>> set ourselves some goals, in terms of applications to run, etc.
> >>>
> >> Why not have "started" on the webpage, and then a like to the wiki page
> >> if there is one?
> >>
> >> Or just encourage people to ask here on the dev list...
> >>
> >
> > Yes, that would be fine. If somebody wants to hack the wiki for module
> > status pages, I'll volunteer to point to the website to them.
> >
> To start with (because it is easier for people to update) I've
> replicated Tim's table on the Wiki
> (here:http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/component_development_status). I've
> linked one component (j.l.mangement) to a seperate page and marked it as
> "started". How about other people marking up the areas that they are
> working in?
[Nathan Beyer] I added a LUNI page [1]. I've been trying to implement and
stub out all of the missing Java 5 stuff, so I've put some of my information
up there.
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/LUNI
> > Regards,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >>> If you want to make a start on the wiki page that would be good, or if
> >>> anyone else has an idea for tracking intent...
> >>>
> >>> It's also worth mentioning that I don't believe we should be exclusive
> >>> about areas of work within, and contribution to, Harmony.
> >>>
> >> Absolutely.
> >>
> >>
> >>> While I
> >>> understand that the goal is to minimize redundant work, we may find
> >>> ourselves in the situation of having more than one implementation of
> the
> >>> same APIs (we already saw this happen with 'security' and 'security2'
> >>> contributions). This is no bad thing as it allows us to evaluate the
> >>> best technical option (quickly) and proceed with the combined group of
> >>> experts collaborating on a single code base. I hope we can continue
> to
> >>> do so 'harmoniously'.
> >>>
> >> Choice and competition is good. This isn't "live or die" competition,
> >> but "we can choose best of breed" competition, and we all benefit.
> There
> >> are no losers.
> >>
> >> geir
> >>
> >>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Tim
> >>>
> >>> karan malhi wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am writing the interfaces for the javax.accessibility package. Some
> of
> >>>> the interfaces are dependent on classes from the awt package. Are we
> >>>> expecting any donations for awt, swing packages?
> >>>> If donations are not expected then what approach should I take?
> Should I
> >>>> start writing stuff for awt and swing (on which accessibility
> depends
> >>>> on) so that accessibility classes compile during a build in harmony?
> >>>> Please guide me here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Secondly, once a volunteer starts working on a "Missing" module as
> >>>> stated on
> >>>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/classlibrary/status.html
> >>>>
> >>>> , should the status be changed to something else like "Work in
> progress"
> >>>> or something?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
> >