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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by Sian January <si...@googlemail.com> on 2010/11/17 14:08:53 UTC
[site] One-sentence project description
In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main web
page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. It needs to describe
the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something like:
"Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java SE 5
and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
or to be more general:
"Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and class
libraries."
Any thoughts?
Sian
[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
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Re: [site] One-sentence project description
Posted by Mark Hindess <ma...@googlemail.com>.
In message <AA...@mail.gmail.com>,
Sian January writes:
>
> Thanks to those who commented. I have checked this in today for
> in order to get something up there that complies with the ASF
> requirements, but I am happy to update it at a later date if anyone
> wants to discuss the wording further.
Excellent. Thanks.
> Is there anyone maintaining the Russian site who is able to translate
> this and check it in? If not, can I suggest we consider removing the
> Russian pages since they are starting to get out of date.
+1. We should remove them. If someone steps in to update them then
the old pages will be in svn. Currently the Russian pages are just
misleading.
-Mark
> 2010/11/24 sebb <se...@gmail.com>:
> > 2010/11/24 Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>:
> >> Yours sounds better but using "complete" could be a bit misleading
> >> since Harmony is not yet complete. =9AI know that's not the intended
> >> meaning but not everyone has English as their first language, so how
> >> about:
> >>
> >> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime with class
> >> libraries and associated tools"?
> >
> > That would be fine.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> 2010/11/24 sebb <se...@gmail.com>:
> >>> 2010/11/24 Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>:
> >>>> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, class libraries
> >>>> and associated tools"?
> >>>
> >>> Reads oddly to me - "is" should not be used with plurals (libraries, to=
> ols).
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps
> >>>
> >>> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, complete with
> >>> class libraries
> >>> and associated tools"?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 17 November 2010 13:33, Gregory Shimansky <gs...@gmail.com> wr=
> ote:
> >>>>> But it also includes JVMTI agent and some tools. So it is not only VM=
> and
> >>>>> class library.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 17.11.2010 16:18, Alexei Fedotov =D0=C9=DB=C5=D4:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sian,
> >>>>>> I like the latter. Is it ok to replace "consists of" by "is"?
> >>>>>> Independence is assumed by Apache anyway.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> With best regards / =D3 =CE=C1=C9=CC=D5=DE=DB=C9=CD=C9 =D0=CF=D6=C5=
> =CC=C1=CE=C9=D1=CD=C9,
> >>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / =E1=CC=C5=CB=D3=C5=CA =E6=C5=C4=CF=D4=CF=D7,
> >>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
> >>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sian January
> >>>>>> <si...@googlemail.com> =9Awrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
> >>>>>>> need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main =
> web
> >>>>>>> page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. =9AIt needs to descr=
> ibe
> >>>>>>> the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something li=
> ke:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java S=
> E 5
> >>>>>>> and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> or to be more general:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and cla=
> ss
> >>>>>>> libraries."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Any thoughts?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
> >>>>>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with n=
> umber
> >>>>>>> 741598.
> >>>>>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire =
> PO6
> >>>>>>> 3AU
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
> >>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with numb=
> er 741598.
> >>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6=
> 3AU
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Unless stated otherwise above:
> >> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number=
> 741598.
> >> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3=
> AU
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --=20
> Unless stated otherwise above:
> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 74=
> 1598.
> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>
Re: [site] One-sentence project description
Posted by Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>.
Thanks to those who commented. I have checked this in today for in
order to get something up there that complies with the ASF
requirements, but I am happy to update it at a later date if anyone
wants to discuss the wording further.
Is there anyone maintaining the Russian site who is able to translate
this and check it in? If not, can I suggest we consider removing the
Russian pages since they are starting to get out of date.
2010/11/24 sebb <se...@gmail.com>:
> 2010/11/24 Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>:
>> Yours sounds better but using "complete" could be a bit misleading
>> since Harmony is not yet complete. I know that's not the intended
>> meaning but not everyone has English as their first language, so how
>> about:
>>
>> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime with class
>> libraries and associated tools"?
>
> That would be fine.
>
>>
>>
>> 2010/11/24 sebb <se...@gmail.com>:
>>> 2010/11/24 Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>:
>>>> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, class libraries
>>>> and associated tools"?
>>>
>>> Reads oddly to me - "is" should not be used with plurals (libraries, tools).
>>>
>>> Perhaps
>>>
>>> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, complete with
>>> class libraries
>>> and associated tools"?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 November 2010 13:33, Gregory Shimansky <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> But it also includes JVMTI agent and some tools. So it is not only VM and
>>>>> class library.
>>>>>
>>>>> 17.11.2010 16:18, Alexei Fedotov пишет:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sian,
>>>>>> I like the latter. Is it ok to replace "consists of" by "is"?
>>>>>> Independence is assumed by Apache anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sian January
>>>>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
>>>>>>> need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main web
>>>>>>> page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. It needs to describe
>>>>>>> the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java SE 5
>>>>>>> and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or to be more general:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and class
>>>>>>> libraries."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>>>>>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number
>>>>>>> 741598.
>>>>>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6
>>>>>>> 3AU
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
>>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>>
>
--
Unless stated otherwise above:
IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
Re: [site] One-sentence project description
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
2010/11/24 Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>:
> Yours sounds better but using "complete" could be a bit misleading
> since Harmony is not yet complete. I know that's not the intended
> meaning but not everyone has English as their first language, so how
> about:
>
> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime with class
> libraries and associated tools"?
That would be fine.
>
>
> 2010/11/24 sebb <se...@gmail.com>:
>> 2010/11/24 Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>:
>>> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, class libraries
>>> and associated tools"?
>>
>> Reads oddly to me - "is" should not be used with plurals (libraries, tools).
>>
>> Perhaps
>>
>> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, complete with
>> class libraries
>> and associated tools"?
>>
>>>
>>> On 17 November 2010 13:33, Gregory Shimansky <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> But it also includes JVMTI agent and some tools. So it is not only VM and
>>>> class library.
>>>>
>>>> 17.11.2010 16:18, Alexei Fedotov пишет:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sian,
>>>>> I like the latter. Is it ok to replace "consists of" by "is"?
>>>>> Independence is assumed by Apache anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sian January
>>>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
>>>>>> need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main web
>>>>>> page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. It needs to describe
>>>>>> the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java SE 5
>>>>>> and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or to be more general:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and class
>>>>>> libraries."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>>>>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number
>>>>>> 741598.
>>>>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6
>>>>>> 3AU
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Unless stated otherwise above:
> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>
Re: [site] One-sentence project description
Posted by Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>.
Yours sounds better but using "complete" could be a bit misleading
since Harmony is not yet complete. I know that's not the intended
meaning but not everyone has English as their first language, so how
about:
"Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime with class
libraries and associated tools"?
2010/11/24 sebb <se...@gmail.com>:
> 2010/11/24 Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>:
>> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, class libraries
>> and associated tools"?
>
> Reads oddly to me - "is" should not be used with plurals (libraries, tools).
>
> Perhaps
>
> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, complete with
> class libraries
> and associated tools"?
>
>>
>> On 17 November 2010 13:33, Gregory Shimansky <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> But it also includes JVMTI agent and some tools. So it is not only VM and
>>> class library.
>>>
>>> 17.11.2010 16:18, Alexei Fedotov пишет:
>>>>
>>>> Sian,
>>>> I like the latter. Is it ok to replace "consists of" by "is"?
>>>> Independence is assumed by Apache anyway.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sian January
>>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
>>>>> need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main web
>>>>> page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. It needs to describe
>>>>> the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something like:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java SE 5
>>>>> and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
>>>>>
>>>>> or to be more general:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and class
>>>>> libraries."
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>>>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number
>>>>> 741598.
>>>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6
>>>>> 3AU
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>>
>
--
Unless stated otherwise above:
IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
Re: [site] One-sentence project description
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
2010/11/24 Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>:
> "Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, class libraries
> and associated tools"?
Reads oddly to me - "is" should not be used with plurals (libraries, tools).
Perhaps
"Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, complete with
class libraries
and associated tools"?
>
> On 17 November 2010 13:33, Gregory Shimansky <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> But it also includes JVMTI agent and some tools. So it is not only VM and
>> class library.
>>
>> 17.11.2010 16:18, Alexei Fedotov пишет:
>>>
>>> Sian,
>>> I like the latter. Is it ok to replace "consists of" by "is"?
>>> Independence is assumed by Apache anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>>> http://dataved.ru/
>>> +7 916 562 8095
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sian January
>>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
>>>> need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main web
>>>> page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. It needs to describe
>>>> the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something like:
>>>>
>>>> "Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java SE 5
>>>> and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
>>>>
>>>> or to be more general:
>>>>
>>>> "Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and class
>>>> libraries."
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Sian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number
>>>> 741598.
>>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6
>>>> 3AU
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Unless stated otherwise above:
> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>
Re: [site] One-sentence project description
Posted by Sian January <si...@googlemail.com>.
"Apache Harmony software is a modular Java runtime, class libraries
and associated tools"?
On 17 November 2010 13:33, Gregory Shimansky <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But it also includes JVMTI agent and some tools. So it is not only VM and
> class library.
>
> 17.11.2010 16:18, Alexei Fedotov пишет:
>>
>> Sian,
>> I like the latter. Is it ok to replace "consists of" by "is"?
>> Independence is assumed by Apache anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
>> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
>> http://dataved.ru/
>> +7 916 562 8095
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sian January
>> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
>>> need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main web
>>> page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. It needs to describe
>>> the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
>>>
>>> I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something like:
>>>
>>> "Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java SE 5
>>> and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
>>>
>>> or to be more general:
>>>
>>> "Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and class
>>> libraries."
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Sian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
>>>
>>> --
>>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number
>>> 741598.
>>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6
>>> 3AU
>>>
>
>
--
Unless stated otherwise above:
IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
Re: [site] One-sentence project description
Posted by Gregory Shimansky <gs...@gmail.com>.
But it also includes JVMTI agent and some tools. So it is not only VM
and class library.
17.11.2010 16:18, Alexei Fedotov пишет:
> Sian,
> I like the latter. Is it ok to replace "consists of" by "is"?
> Independence is assumed by Apache anyway.
>
>
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sian January
> <si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
>> need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main web
>> page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. It needs to describe
>> the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
>>
>> I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something like:
>>
>> "Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java SE 5
>> and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
>>
>> or to be more general:
>>
>> "Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and class
>> libraries."
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Sian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
>>
>> --
>> Unless stated otherwise above:
>> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
>> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>>
Re: [site] One-sentence project description
Posted by Alexei Fedotov <al...@gmail.com>.
Sian,
I like the latter. Is it ok to replace "consists of" by "is"?
Independence is assumed by Apache anyway.
--
With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
http://dataved.ru/
+7 916 562 8095
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Sian January
<si...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> In order to meet the ASF requirements[1] for the Harmony website we
> need to have a one-sentence description of the project on our main web
> page, the downloads page and in the DOAP file. It needs to describe
> the 'product' itself rather than the community or the project aims.
>
> I haven't spent ages thinking about this but how about something like:
>
> "Apache Harmony software is an independent implementation of Java SE 5
> and 6 with a modular runtime architecture."
>
> or to be more general:
>
> "Apache Harmony software consists of a modular Java runtime and class
> libraries."
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Sian
>
>
>
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs#naming
>
> --
> Unless stated otherwise above:
> IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598.
> Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU
>