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Posted to dev@uima.apache.org by Benjamin Sznajder <be...@il.ibm.com> on 2007/04/15 14:04:23 UTC

Installer in UIMA Apache

Hi,

I used until now the IBM UIMA (from watson's site) and I am passing now to
the Apache version.
I permit myself to suggest the following:
In IBM version, the user was able to download the installer that made for
him all the work. Why there is not such utility in Apache's version, namely
an installer that would set the desired property values?

In addition, I think that there is no clear information about how to
install the UIMA Sdk. In fact, there is no real intuitive place where the
user can find this information. It is only said "by the way" in the
documentation.

And a last question: why is the README file (in the zip) with no suffix ?
Why .txt is not suitable?

Best regards and congratulations to all for this work!!!

Benjamin


Re: Installer in UIMA Apache

Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.
Adam Lally wrote:
> On 4/15/07, Benjamin Sznajder <be...@il.ibm.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I used until now the IBM UIMA (from watson's site) and I am passing 
>> now to
>> the Apache version.
>> I permit myself to suggest the following:
>> In IBM version, the user was able to download the installer that made 
>> for
>> him all the work. Why there is not such utility in Apache's version, 
>> namely
>> an installer that would set the desired property values?
>>
>
> Primarily this is because InstallShield is not free, and now that
> we're at Apache we prefer using freely available tools to build our
> distribution.  There might be a free alternative we could try (I
> haven't looked), but it doesn't seem to be common among Apache
> projects to provide an installer.
>
>
>> In addition, I think that there is no clear information about how to
>> install the UIMA Sdk. In fact, there is no real intuitive place where 
>> the
>> user can find this information. It is only said "by the way" in the
>> documentation.
>>
>
> The README is intended to provide this information.  Is there any
> important information that you could not find there?
>
>
>> And a last question: why is the README file (in the zip) with no 
>> suffix ?
>> Why .txt is not suitable?
>>
>
> It seemed to be a common Apache convention, although it's not an
> absolute rule and some other projects do use .txt.  I don't feel
> strongly about it either way.  Anyone else have an opinion?

My opinion is to use .txt - it makes the Eclipse IDE (and maybe others) 
behave better :-)

-Marshall
>
> -Adam
>
>


Re: Installer in UIMA Apache

Posted by Marshall Schor <ms...@schor.com>.
Benjamin Sznajder wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>
> Refering to your mail, I think that the user is not "aware" about this
> README file. You may mention its existence in the download page, maybe?
>
> Benjamin
>   

Hi Benjamin -

We're trying to attract additional people to contribute to UIMA.  You've 
made some good suggestions, and I'd like to invite
you to contribute a "patch" for our webpage, changing it in the way you 
think it would best communicate this information.

If you do that, I'll review it quickly and get the web page updated.

Thanks for your help!  -Marshall
>
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> On 4/15/07, Benjamin Sznajder <be...@il.ibm.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I used until now the IBM UIMA (from watson's site) and I am passing now
>>     
> to
>   
>> the Apache version.
>> I permit myself to suggest the following:
>> In IBM version, the user was able to download the installer that made for
>> him all the work. Why there is not such utility in Apache's version,
>>     
> namely
>   
>> an installer that would set the desired property values?
>>
>>     
>
> Primarily this is because InstallShield is not free, and now that
> we're at Apache we prefer using freely available tools to build our
> distribution.  There might be a free alternative we could try (I
> haven't looked), but it doesn't seem to be common among Apache
> projects to provide an installer.
>
>
>   
>> In addition, I think that there is no clear information about how to
>> install the UIMA Sdk. In fact, there is no real intuitive place where the
>> user can find this information. It is only said "by the way" in the
>> documentation.
>>
>>     
>
> The README is intended to provide this information.  Is there any
> important information that you could not find there?
>
>
>   
>> And a last question: why is the README file (in the zip) with no suffix ?
>> Why .txt is not suitable?
>>
>>     
>
> It seemed to be a common Apache convention, although it's not an
> absolute rule and some other projects do use .txt.  I don't feel
> strongly about it either way.  Anyone else have an opinion?
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>   


Re: Installer in UIMA Apache

Posted by Benjamin Sznajder <be...@il.ibm.com>.
Hi Adam,

Refering to your mail, I think that the user is not "aware" about this
README file. You may mention its existence in the download page, maybe?

Benjamin


                                                                           
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On 4/15/07, Benjamin Sznajder <be...@il.ibm.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I used until now the IBM UIMA (from watson's site) and I am passing now
to
> the Apache version.
> I permit myself to suggest the following:
> In IBM version, the user was able to download the installer that made for
> him all the work. Why there is not such utility in Apache's version,
namely
> an installer that would set the desired property values?
>

Primarily this is because InstallShield is not free, and now that
we're at Apache we prefer using freely available tools to build our
distribution.  There might be a free alternative we could try (I
haven't looked), but it doesn't seem to be common among Apache
projects to provide an installer.


> In addition, I think that there is no clear information about how to
> install the UIMA Sdk. In fact, there is no real intuitive place where the
> user can find this information. It is only said "by the way" in the
> documentation.
>

The README is intended to provide this information.  Is there any
important information that you could not find there?


> And a last question: why is the README file (in the zip) with no suffix ?
> Why .txt is not suitable?
>

It seemed to be a common Apache convention, although it's not an
absolute rule and some other projects do use .txt.  I don't feel
strongly about it either way.  Anyone else have an opinion?

-Adam



Re: Installer in UIMA Apache

Posted by Adam Lally <al...@alum.rpi.edu>.
On 4/15/07, Benjamin Sznajder <be...@il.ibm.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I used until now the IBM UIMA (from watson's site) and I am passing now to
> the Apache version.
> I permit myself to suggest the following:
> In IBM version, the user was able to download the installer that made for
> him all the work. Why there is not such utility in Apache's version, namely
> an installer that would set the desired property values?
>

Primarily this is because InstallShield is not free, and now that
we're at Apache we prefer using freely available tools to build our
distribution.  There might be a free alternative we could try (I
haven't looked), but it doesn't seem to be common among Apache
projects to provide an installer.


> In addition, I think that there is no clear information about how to
> install the UIMA Sdk. In fact, there is no real intuitive place where the
> user can find this information. It is only said "by the way" in the
> documentation.
>

The README is intended to provide this information.  Is there any
important information that you could not find there?


> And a last question: why is the README file (in the zip) with no suffix ?
> Why .txt is not suitable?
>

It seemed to be a common Apache convention, although it's not an
absolute rule and some other projects do use .txt.  I don't feel
strongly about it either way.  Anyone else have an opinion?

-Adam