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[PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Hi everyone,

In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.

Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.

My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.

Thoughts ?

Regards
JB

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Posted by Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hit send too soon.. I’m happy to build the Guide for the website.

Thanks,
Matt Pavlovich

> On May 21, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> JB-
> 
> Agreed that we can start to wind down activemq-camel.
> 
> How about:
> 
> 1. Remove activemq-camel from activemq-osgi
> 2. Keep activemq-camel as a module in the build
> 3. Create a ticket for ‘Guide to ActiveMQ 5.1+ Camel 3.x'
> 
> There are a *ton* of Camel examples online that reference the ActiveMQComponent (and its package naming) that is different from the camel-activemq module
> 
>> On May 21, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.
>> 
>> Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
>> So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.
>> 
>> My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.
>> 
>> Thoughts ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
> 


Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Posted by Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com>.
Great. JIRA created for the guide, I’ll get on that next week.

ref: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-8271

> On May 21, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> It sounds like a plan.
> 
> IMHO, (1) is the most important (on both 5.17/5.16).
> 
> (2) can be targeted to 5.17.x for sure.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> Le 21 mai 2021 à 15:49, Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>> JB-
>> 
>> Agreed that we can start to wind down activemq-camel.
>> 
>> How about:
>> 
>> 1. Remove activemq-camel from activemq-osgi
>> 2. Keep activemq-camel as a module in the build
>> 3. Create a ticket for ‘Guide to ActiveMQ 5.1+ Camel 3.x'
>> 
>> There are a *ton* of Camel examples online that reference the ActiveMQComponent (and its package naming) that is different from the camel-activemq module
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.
>>> 
>>> Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
>>> So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.
>>> 
>>> My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts ?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>> 
> 


Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Posted by Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com>.
Great. JIRA created for the guide, I’ll get on that next week.

ref: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-8271

> On May 21, 2021, at 9:48 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matt,
> 
> It sounds like a plan.
> 
> IMHO, (1) is the most important (on both 5.17/5.16).
> 
> (2) can be targeted to 5.17.x for sure.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> Le 21 mai 2021 à 15:49, Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>> JB-
>> 
>> Agreed that we can start to wind down activemq-camel.
>> 
>> How about:
>> 
>> 1. Remove activemq-camel from activemq-osgi
>> 2. Keep activemq-camel as a module in the build
>> 3. Create a ticket for ‘Guide to ActiveMQ 5.1+ Camel 3.x'
>> 
>> There are a *ton* of Camel examples online that reference the ActiveMQComponent (and its package naming) that is different from the camel-activemq module
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.
>>> 
>>> Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
>>> So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.
>>> 
>>> My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts ?
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>> 
> 


Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Matt,

It sounds like a plan.

IMHO, (1) is the most important (on both 5.17/5.16).

(2) can be targeted to 5.17.x for sure.

Regards
JB

> Le 21 mai 2021 à 15:49, Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> JB-
> 
> Agreed that we can start to wind down activemq-camel.
> 
> How about:
> 
> 1. Remove activemq-camel from activemq-osgi
> 2. Keep activemq-camel as a module in the build
> 3. Create a ticket for ‘Guide to ActiveMQ 5.1+ Camel 3.x'
> 
> There are a *ton* of Camel examples online that reference the ActiveMQComponent (and its package naming) that is different from the camel-activemq module
> 
>> On May 21, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.
>> 
>> Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
>> So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.
>> 
>> My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.
>> 
>> Thoughts ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
> 


Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Matt,

It sounds like a plan.

IMHO, (1) is the most important (on both 5.17/5.16).

(2) can be targeted to 5.17.x for sure.

Regards
JB

> Le 21 mai 2021 à 15:49, Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> JB-
> 
> Agreed that we can start to wind down activemq-camel.
> 
> How about:
> 
> 1. Remove activemq-camel from activemq-osgi
> 2. Keep activemq-camel as a module in the build
> 3. Create a ticket for ‘Guide to ActiveMQ 5.1+ Camel 3.x'
> 
> There are a *ton* of Camel examples online that reference the ActiveMQComponent (and its package naming) that is different from the camel-activemq module
> 
>> On May 21, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.
>> 
>> Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
>> So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.
>> 
>> My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.
>> 
>> Thoughts ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
> 


Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Posted by Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hit send too soon.. I’m happy to build the Guide for the website.

Thanks,
Matt Pavlovich

> On May 21, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> JB-
> 
> Agreed that we can start to wind down activemq-camel.
> 
> How about:
> 
> 1. Remove activemq-camel from activemq-osgi
> 2. Keep activemq-camel as a module in the build
> 3. Create a ticket for ‘Guide to ActiveMQ 5.1+ Camel 3.x'
> 
> There are a *ton* of Camel examples online that reference the ActiveMQComponent (and its package naming) that is different from the camel-activemq module
> 
>> On May 21, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.
>> 
>> Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
>> So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.
>> 
>> My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.
>> 
>> Thoughts ?
>> 
>> Regards
>> JB
> 


Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Posted by Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com>.
JB-

Agreed that we can start to wind down activemq-camel.

How about:

1. Remove activemq-camel from activemq-osgi
2. Keep activemq-camel as a module in the build
3. Create a ticket for ‘Guide to ActiveMQ 5.1+ Camel 3.x'

There are a *ton* of Camel examples online that reference the ActiveMQComponent (and its package naming) that is different from the camel-activemq module

> On May 21, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.
> 
> Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
> So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.
> 
> My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.
> 
> Thoughts ?
> 
> Regards
> JB


Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove activemq-camel from Apache ActiveMQ

Posted by Matt Pavlovich <ma...@gmail.com>.
JB-

Agreed that we can start to wind down activemq-camel.

How about:

1. Remove activemq-camel from activemq-osgi
2. Keep activemq-camel as a module in the build
3. Create a ticket for ‘Guide to ActiveMQ 5.1+ Camel 3.x'

There are a *ton* of Camel examples online that reference the ActiveMQComponent (and its package naming) that is different from the camel-activemq module

> On May 21, 2021, at 4:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> In the process to upgrade and cleanup Apache ActiveMQ, I would like to propose to remove activemq-camel component from Apache ActiveMQ.
> 
> Since Camel 3.x, Camel provides camel-activemq component (with the corresponding Apache Karaf feature), and also, camel-jms/camel-amqp/camel-mqtt work fine with ActiveMQ.
> So, I think that activemq-camel component is not useless, and it’s still using camel 2.x.
> 
> My proposal is to remove activemq-camel and cleanup the headers in activemq-osgi.
> 
> Thoughts ?
> 
> Regards
> JB