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New connector sandbox
Hi,
I plan to create a
sandbox/connectors/native/iis7
for a native IIS7 C++ connector
(since Microsoft deprecated ISAPI)
Any objections?
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
On 04/26/2011 05:12 PM, Rainer Jung wrote:
> On 11.04.2011 11:34, Mladen Turk wrote:
>
> +1, but maybe as Konstantin noted just a simple top-level sandbox name like iis7 or connector-iis7 is enough. You can create any needed structure underneath. I think there's no real need to group sandboxes.
>
OK. I'll use iis7 as TLN.
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
On 04/27/2011 08:53 AM, Henri Gomez wrote:
>
> Ie, is there any mod_proxy for IIS ?
>
Not inside ASF.
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
On 4/27/2011 1:53 AM, Henri Gomez wrote:
> Now that HTTP connector is as fast as AJP connector, is it still required ?
>
> Ie, is there any mod_proxy for IIS ?
You mean...
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/carlosag/archive/2010/04/02/setting-up-a-reverse-proxy-using-iis-url-rewrite-and-arr.aspx
?
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Henri Gomez <he...@gmail.com>.
> Performance isn't a reasion for AJP in the last say 5 or more years. The
> major benefits of AJP are
>
> - smooth integration of a reverse proxy
> The connector patches the communication data of the web server
> into the webapp environment, i.e. client IP, protocol, server IP etc.
>
> - connection pooling including checking via cping/cpong
I know these well :)
BTW, AJP was initially developped for pure performance, Coyote HTTP
stack is now as fast as AJP one, that's why I mentioned it.
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Rainer Jung <ra...@kippdata.de>.
On 27.04.2011 08:53, Henri Gomez wrote:
> Now that HTTP connector is as fast as AJP connector, is it still required ?
Performance isn't a reasion for AJP in the last say 5 or more years. The
major benefits of AJP are
- smooth integration of a reverse proxy
The connector patches the communication data of the web server
into the webapp environment, i.e. client IP, protocol, server IP etc.
- connection pooling including checking via cping/cpong
Regards,
Rainer
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Henri Gomez <he...@gmail.com>.
Now that HTTP connector is as fast as AJP connector, is it still required ?
Ie, is there any mod_proxy for IIS ?
Le 26 avr. 2011 à 17:12, Rainer Jung <ra...@kippdata.de> a écrit :
> On 11.04.2011 11:34, Mladen Turk wrote:
>> On 04/11/2011 09:00 AM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>>> 2011/4/11 Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I plan to create a
>>>> sandbox/connectors/native/iis7
>>>> for a native IIS7 C++ connector
>>>> (since Microsoft deprecated ISAPI)
>>>>
>>>> Any objections?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I do not mind.
>>>
>>> Though
>>> 1) Do you need those immediate levels? Will there be anything in them?
>>
>> Yes. Java part of the connector.
>> IIS7 offers much more then just passing http requests.
>>
>>>
>>> I guess the code will go into
>>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/jk/trunk/native/iis7/
>>> when it becomes mature?
>>>
>>
>> Not sure. Httpd has mod_proxy_http/mod_proxy_ajp.
>> Having a full (without normalizing functionality) IIS
>> connector would cover MS world. Other servers are
>> irrelevant IMHO (we only had former SunOne supported
>> which is now named Oracle something ...)
>>
>> IMHO mod_jk has reached state where any further
>> functionality improvement is limited by the protocol,
>> and since there is no desire/need to invent a new protocol,
>> and since initial mod_jk premise (runs in any web server) makes
>> no sense in today's real world, mixing that with jk
>> connectors makes no sense as well.
>>
>> Idea is to make a simple and robust connector that
>> will work well inside IIS7 and allow .NET interoperability,
>> working both standalone and probably inside
>> Windows Azure.
>
> +1, but maybe as Konstantin noted just a simple top-level sandbox name like iis7 or connector-iis7 is enough. You can create any needed structure underneath. I think there's no real need to group sandboxes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rainer
>
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Rainer Jung <ra...@kippdata.de>.
On 11.04.2011 11:34, Mladen Turk wrote:
> On 04/11/2011 09:00 AM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
>> 2011/4/11 Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org>:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I plan to create a
>>> sandbox/connectors/native/iis7
>>> for a native IIS7 C++ connector
>>> (since Microsoft deprecated ISAPI)
>>>
>>> Any objections?
>>>
>>
>> I do not mind.
>>
>> Though
>> 1) Do you need those immediate levels? Will there be anything in them?
>
> Yes. Java part of the connector.
> IIS7 offers much more then just passing http requests.
>
>>
>> I guess the code will go into
>> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/jk/trunk/native/iis7/
>> when it becomes mature?
>>
>
> Not sure. Httpd has mod_proxy_http/mod_proxy_ajp.
> Having a full (without normalizing functionality) IIS
> connector would cover MS world. Other servers are
> irrelevant IMHO (we only had former SunOne supported
> which is now named Oracle something ...)
>
> IMHO mod_jk has reached state where any further
> functionality improvement is limited by the protocol,
> and since there is no desire/need to invent a new protocol,
> and since initial mod_jk premise (runs in any web server) makes
> no sense in today's real world, mixing that with jk
> connectors makes no sense as well.
>
> Idea is to make a simple and robust connector that
> will work well inside IIS7 and allow .NET interoperability,
> working both standalone and probably inside
> Windows Azure.
+1, but maybe as Konstantin noted just a simple top-level sandbox name
like iis7 or connector-iis7 is enough. You can create any needed
structure underneath. I think there's no real need to group sandboxes.
Regards,
Rainer
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>.
On 04/11/2011 09:00 AM, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> 2011/4/11 Mladen Turk<mt...@apache.org>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I plan to create a
>> sandbox/connectors/native/iis7
>> for a native IIS7 C++ connector
>> (since Microsoft deprecated ISAPI)
>>
>> Any objections?
>>
>
> I do not mind.
>
> Though
> 1) Do you need those immediate levels? Will there be anything in them?
Yes. Java part of the connector.
IIS7 offers much more then just passing http requests.
>
> I guess the code will go into
> https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/jk/trunk/native/iis7/
> when it becomes mature?
>
Not sure. Httpd has mod_proxy_http/mod_proxy_ajp.
Having a full (without normalizing functionality) IIS
connector would cover MS world. Other servers are
irrelevant IMHO (we only had former SunOne supported
which is now named Oracle something ...)
IMHO mod_jk has reached state where any further
functionality improvement is limited by the protocol,
and since there is no desire/need to invent a new protocol,
and since initial mod_jk premise (runs in any web server) makes
no sense in today's real world, mixing that with jk
connectors makes no sense as well.
Idea is to make a simple and robust connector that
will work well inside IIS7 and allow .NET interoperability,
working both standalone and probably inside
Windows Azure.
Regards
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com>.
2011/4/11 Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org>:
> Hi,
>
> I plan to create a
> sandbox/connectors/native/iis7
> for a native IIS7 C++ connector
> (since Microsoft deprecated ISAPI)
>
> Any objections?
>
I do not mind.
Though
1) Do you need those immediate levels? Will there be anything in them?
I guess the code will go into
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/jk/trunk/native/iis7/
when it becomes mature?
2) Just noticed that there is a readme in sandbox,
https://svn.apache.org/viewvc/tomcat/sandbox/README.txt?view=markup
Based on that I would prefer some more explicit name of a "component"
rather than some nested "connectors" sandbox inside sandbox.
Maybe sandbox/jk_iis7 ?
Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko
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Re: New connector sandbox
Posted by Tim Whittington <ti...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Mladen Turk <mt...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I plan to create a
> sandbox/connectors/native/iis7
> for a native IIS7 C++ connector
> (since Microsoft deprecated ISAPI)
>
> Any objections?
We're only just getting the ISAPI one working properly ;)
+1 from me - let me know if you want help.
cheers
tim
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