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advocacy: J2EE: no longer required - Loosely Coupled weblog, Nov 18th 2004 10:20am

For those seeking mod_perl advocacy bits. Spotted this on /.org today:

http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00074.html

That entry mainly suggests LAMP to scale better than J2EE using a grid of 
cheap PCs, à là Google/Amazon style.

It links to the detailed articles:

http://peteryared.blogspot.com/2003/09/next-language.html
http://peteryared.blogspot.com/2003/09/application-servers-2004-big-muffin-in.html
http://www.activegrid.com/news/pressrelease-111704.php

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Re: advocacy: J2EE: no longer required - Loosely Coupled weblog, Nov 18th 2004 10:20am

Posted by Perrin Harkins <pe...@elem.com>.
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 10:20, Stas Bekman wrote:
> For those seeking mod_perl advocacy bits. Spotted this on /.org today:
> 
> http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00074.html
> 
> That entry mainly suggests LAMP to scale better than J2EE using a grid of 
> cheap PCs, à là Google/Amazon style.
> 
> It links to the detailed articles:
> 
> http://peteryared.blogspot.com/2003/09/next-language.html
> http://peteryared.blogspot.com/2003/09/application-servers-2004-big-muffin-in.html
> http://www.activegrid.com/news/pressrelease-111704.php

I'm all for picking on bloated J2EE app servers, but this is a pretty
silly article.  I'm not going to get too far into it here, but I think
I'll write something about it on my use.perl.org journal.  The main
problem with the "ActiveGrid" system this company is promoting is that
scaling web apps to multiple machines is a solved problem, at least in
terms of basic load-balancing and failover stuff.  The hard part is
shared data, which they are not addressing from what I can see.

- Perrin


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Re: advocacy: J2EE: no longer required - Loosely Coupled weblog, Nov 18th 2004 10:20am

Posted by gr...@gh-webinteractive.com.
> For those seeking mod_perl advocacy bits. Spotted this on /.org today:
>
> http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00074.html
>
> That entry mainly suggests LAMP to scale better than J2EE using a grid of
> cheap PCs, à là Google/Amazon style.
>
> It links to the detailed articles:
>
> http://peteryared.blogspot.com/2003/09/next-language.html
> http://peteryared.blogspot.com/2003/09/application-servers-2004-big-muffin-in.html
> http://www.activegrid.com/news/pressrelease-111704.php

right so now I learned something again, but how does J2EE relate with
apache + mod_perl?? are they competitors?
/G
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Re: advocacy: J2EE: no longer required - Loosely Coupled weblog, Nov 18th 2004 10:20am

Posted by Perrin Harkins <pe...@elem.com>.
On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 10:20, Stas Bekman wrote:
> For those seeking mod_perl advocacy bits. Spotted this on /.org today:
> 
> http://www.looselycoupled.com/blog/lc00aa00074.html
> 
> That entry mainly suggests LAMP to scale better than J2EE using a grid of 
> cheap PCs, à là Google/Amazon style.
> 
> It links to the detailed articles:
> 
> http://peteryared.blogspot.com/2003/09/next-language.html
> http://peteryared.blogspot.com/2003/09/application-servers-2004-big-muffin-in.html
> http://www.activegrid.com/news/pressrelease-111704.php

I'm all for picking on bloated J2EE app servers, but this is a pretty
silly article.  I'm not going to get too far into it here, but I think
I'll write something about it on my use.perl.org journal.  The main
problem with the "ActiveGrid" system this company is promoting is that
scaling web apps to multiple machines is a solved problem, at least in
terms of basic load-balancing and failover stuff.  The hard part is
shared data, which they are not addressing from what I can see.

- Perrin


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