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Posted to users@activemq.apache.org by mjustin <mi...@gmx.net> on 2010/04/06 08:49:14 UTC

ActiveMQ running on Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud)

Hello,

for some product demos (Delphi and Java integration with ActiveMQ) I am
interested in running a small Ubuntu Linux instance on Amazon EC2 with
ActiveMQ, which would provide a ready to use environment where no Java and
ActiveMQ download and installation is required.

Yesterday I did a quick test and managed to install and run ActiveMQ 5.3.1
remotely in a couple of minutes. Storage and usage costs depend on the
machine size and "opening times". Storage costs for the image are $0.50 per
month so I will give it a try and write about it on my blog and share some
installation guides and links.

Regarding the 'public' availability of the ActiveMQ instance and traffic
costs, I have one question: are there global settings in ActiveMQ to limit
the size, speed or number of messages producers can send? 


Regards,

-----
Michael Justin
SCJP, SCJA
betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de
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Re: ActiveMQ running on Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud)

Posted by Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>.

Good work Justin. Will try to find some time to play with it these days.
BTW. re JWS 3.4.0 it is nice, but unfortunately it is GPL licensed, so we
cannot use it (and must stick to 3.2.3). See this thread for more info

http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@maven.apache.org/msg74005.html

<http://www.mail-archive.com/dev@maven.apache.org/msg74005.html>Cheers
--
Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb

Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
Blog - http://www.nighttale.net


On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 3:52 PM, mjustin <mi...@gmx.net> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> a public image file (AMI) with Apache ActiveMQ 5.3.1 on Ubuntu Linux 9.10
> is
> online now. It has the AMI ID ami-8df21ce4. Public means everybody with an
> AWS account can launch it. Costs depend on the instance size and running
> time, starting at less than $0.1/hour.
>
> A short tutorial is available at
>
> http://mikejustin.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/first-steps-with-delphi-and-apache-activemq-in-the-cloud/
>
> This is my first work in EC2, so if it does not work as expected, I would
> be
> very happy about feedback.
>
> If everything works fine my next goal is to implement a public 'on demand'
> service, where users without an AWS account can use a simple web page or
> HTTP/SMTP/... API to launch the image for a short evaluation time (one hour
> or less).
>
> Have a nice weekend,
>
> -----
> Michael Justin
> SCJP, SCJA
> betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
> http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-running-on-Amazon-EC2-%28Elastic-Compute-Cloud%29-tp28148057p28202127.html
> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>

Re: ActiveMQ running on Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud)

Posted by mjustin <mi...@gmx.net>.

Hello,

a public image file (AMI) with Apache ActiveMQ 5.3.1 on Ubuntu Linux 9.10 is
online now. It has the AMI ID ami-8df21ce4. Public means everybody with an
AWS account can launch it. Costs depend on the instance size and running
time, starting at less than $0.1/hour.

A short tutorial is available at
http://mikejustin.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/first-steps-with-delphi-and-apache-activemq-in-the-cloud/

This is my first work in EC2, so if it does not work as expected, I would be
very happy about feedback.

If everything works fine my next goal is to implement a public 'on demand'
service, where users without an AWS account can use a simple web page or
HTTP/SMTP/... API to launch the image for a short evaluation time (one hour
or less).

Have a nice weekend,

-----
Michael Justin
SCJP, SCJA
betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de
-- 
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Re: ActiveMQ running on Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud)

Posted by mjustin <mi...@gmx.net>.

Hello Dejan,

currently I try to configure ActiveMQ with Java Service Wrapper 3.4.0, which
is now able to install the service. So the ActiveMQ broker service it will
start when the computer boots:

http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/doc/english/launch-nix.html

This new feature in release 3.4.0 also would be a very nice addition to
ActiveMQ imho.

If it runs ok in EC2 I will come back.

Cheers,
Michael
 

Dejan Bosanac wrote:
> 
> Hi Justin,
> 
> that's great. It'd be also great to have some docs on the topic at
> ActiveMQ
> web site. Also, I started working on creating Linux packages (rpm, deb,
> ...)
> that should make deployment a bit easier.
> 
> Cheers
> --
> Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb
> 
> Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
> ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
> Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:49 AM, mjustin <mi...@gmx.net> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> for some product demos (Delphi and Java integration with ActiveMQ) I am
>> interested in running a small Ubuntu Linux instance on Amazon EC2 with
>> ActiveMQ, which would provide a ready to use environment where no Java
>> and
>> ActiveMQ download and installation is required.
>>
>> Yesterday I did a quick test and managed to install and run ActiveMQ
>> 5.3.1
>> remotely in a couple of minutes. Storage and usage costs depend on the
>> machine size and "opening times". Storage costs for the image are $0.50
>> per
>> month so I will give it a try and write about it on my blog and share
>> some
>> installation guides and links.
>>
>> Regarding the 'public' availability of the ActiveMQ instance and traffic
>> costs, I have one question: are there global settings in ActiveMQ to
>> limit
>> the size, speed or number of messages producers can send?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -----
>> Michael Justin
>> SCJP, SCJA
>> betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
>> http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de
>> --
>> View this message in context:
>> http://old.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-running-on-Amazon-EC2-%28Elastic-Compute-Cloud%29-tp28148057p28148057.html
>> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> -----
> Dejan Bosanac
> 
> Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
> ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
> Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
> 


-----
Michael Justin
SCJP, SCJA
betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de
-- 
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Re: ActiveMQ running on Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud)

Posted by Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>.

Hi James,

I belive that building a distro from the binary tarball is the best way to
go, as they should be in sync and we can create distros in the release
process.

I started experementing with unix-maven-plugin

http://fisheye6.atlassian.com/browse/activemq/trunk/assembly/pom-rpm.xml?r=HEAD

but it doesn't behave quite as I expect. One other thing is that it needs to
be executed on the specific platform as it is just a wrapper for the native
commands. So, I'm thinking about doing it without maven as I don't see any
advantages of it.

BTW. I'll use https://issues.apache.org/activemq/browse/AMQ-2105 for all
related work in this area.

Thanks for your contribution and please post your comments.

Cheers
--
Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb

Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
Blog - http://www.nighttale.net


On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 4:14 PM, James Casey <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dejan,
>
> we've done a lot of work on packaging nice rpms (for FUSE releases) which
> fit in well to the linux file system hierarchy[1].  Currently the starting
> point for our packaging is a binary tarball, but getting it generated from
> maven would be nice.
>
> We'd be interested in contributing what we've done to the packaging effort
> once you have the initial maven work done.
>
> cheers,
>
> James.
> --
> [1] http://www.sysadmin.hep.ac.uk/svn/grid-monitoring/trunk/msg/fuse-rpm
>
>
> On 6 April 2010 11:36, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi Justin,
> >
> > that's great. It'd be also great to have some docs on the topic at
> ActiveMQ
> > web site. Also, I started working on creating Linux packages (rpm, deb,
> > ...)
> > that should make deployment a bit easier.
> >
> > Cheers
> > --
> > Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb
> >
> > Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
> > ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
> > Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:49 AM, mjustin <mi...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > for some product demos (Delphi and Java integration with ActiveMQ) I am
> > > interested in running a small Ubuntu Linux instance on Amazon EC2 with
> > > ActiveMQ, which would provide a ready to use environment where no Java
> > and
> > > ActiveMQ download and installation is required.
> > >
> > > Yesterday I did a quick test and managed to install and run ActiveMQ
> > 5.3.1
> > > remotely in a couple of minutes. Storage and usage costs depend on the
> > > machine size and "opening times". Storage costs for the image are $0.50
> > per
> > > month so I will give it a try and write about it on my blog and share
> > some
> > > installation guides and links.
> > >
> > > Regarding the 'public' availability of the ActiveMQ instance and
> traffic
> > > costs, I have one question: are there global settings in ActiveMQ to
> > limit
> > > the size, speed or number of messages producers can send?
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -----
> > > Michael Justin
> > > SCJP, SCJA
> > > betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
> > > http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de
> > > --
> > > View this message in context:
> > >
> >
> http://old.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-running-on-Amazon-EC2-%28Elastic-Compute-Cloud%29-tp28148057p28148057.html
> > > Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: ActiveMQ running on Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud)

Posted by James Casey <ja...@gmail.com>.

Hi Dejan,

we've done a lot of work on packaging nice rpms (for FUSE releases) which
fit in well to the linux file system hierarchy[1].  Currently the starting
point for our packaging is a binary tarball, but getting it generated from
maven would be nice.

We'd be interested in contributing what we've done to the packaging effort
once you have the initial maven work done.

cheers,

James.
--
[1] http://www.sysadmin.hep.ac.uk/svn/grid-monitoring/trunk/msg/fuse-rpm


On 6 April 2010 11:36, Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net> wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> that's great. It'd be also great to have some docs on the topic at ActiveMQ
> web site. Also, I started working on creating Linux packages (rpm, deb,
> ...)
> that should make deployment a bit easier.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb
>
> Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
> ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
> Blog - http://www.nighttale.net
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:49 AM, mjustin <mi...@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > for some product demos (Delphi and Java integration with ActiveMQ) I am
> > interested in running a small Ubuntu Linux instance on Amazon EC2 with
> > ActiveMQ, which would provide a ready to use environment where no Java
> and
> > ActiveMQ download and installation is required.
> >
> > Yesterday I did a quick test and managed to install and run ActiveMQ
> 5.3.1
> > remotely in a couple of minutes. Storage and usage costs depend on the
> > machine size and "opening times". Storage costs for the image are $0.50
> per
> > month so I will give it a try and write about it on my blog and share
> some
> > installation guides and links.
> >
> > Regarding the 'public' availability of the ActiveMQ instance and traffic
> > costs, I have one question: are there global settings in ActiveMQ to
> limit
> > the size, speed or number of messages producers can send?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -----
> > Michael Justin
> > SCJP, SCJA
> > betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
> > http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
> http://old.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-running-on-Amazon-EC2-%28Elastic-Compute-Cloud%29-tp28148057p28148057.html
> > Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> >
>

Re: ActiveMQ running on Amazon EC2 (Elastic Compute Cloud)

Posted by Dejan Bosanac <de...@nighttale.net>.

Hi Justin,

that's great. It'd be also great to have some docs on the topic at ActiveMQ
web site. Also, I started working on creating Linux packages (rpm, deb, ...)
that should make deployment a bit easier.

Cheers
--
Dejan Bosanac - http://twitter.com/dejanb

Open Source Integration - http://fusesource.com/
ActiveMQ in Action - http://www.manning.com/snyder/
Blog - http://www.nighttale.net


On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:49 AM, mjustin <mi...@gmx.net> wrote:

>
> Hello,
>
> for some product demos (Delphi and Java integration with ActiveMQ) I am
> interested in running a small Ubuntu Linux instance on Amazon EC2 with
> ActiveMQ, which would provide a ready to use environment where no Java and
> ActiveMQ download and installation is required.
>
> Yesterday I did a quick test and managed to install and run ActiveMQ 5.3.1
> remotely in a couple of minutes. Storage and usage costs depend on the
> machine size and "opening times". Storage costs for the image are $0.50 per
> month so I will give it a try and write about it on my blog and share some
> installation guides and links.
>
> Regarding the 'public' availability of the ActiveMQ instance and traffic
> costs, I have one question: are there global settings in ActiveMQ to limit
> the size, speed or number of messages producers can send?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -----
> Michael Justin
> SCJP, SCJA
> betasoft - Software for Delphi™ and for the Java™ platform
> http://www.mikejustin.com - http://www.betabeans.de
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://old.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-running-on-Amazon-EC2-%28Elastic-Compute-Cloud%29-tp28148057p28148057.html
> Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>