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Posted to dev@maven.apache.org by "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland" <ro...@oracle.com> on 2014/01/03 12:20:41 UTC
Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Hi Kristian,
I am following sun bug 9009028,
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
Rgds,Rory
On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been far too
> busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>
> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that would,
> to a large extent, also function as a verification of jdk8
> compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
> 9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is open, it
> may hide other problems. So with my "tester" hat on; we have one known
> bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.
>
> Kristian
>
>
>
> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to get an
> idea about how much community
> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those published by
> Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
> more of it to happen see:
> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>
>
> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK 7u60 EA
> builds, if you've run into showstopper
> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject on
> the quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
> of course.
>
> I am aware of https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 ,
> if there are any other issues please let
> me know.
>
> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for download
> <http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for download
> <https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>
> Rgds,Rory
>
> --
> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
> Quality Engineering Manager
> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>
>
--
Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
Quality Engineering Manager
Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by dalibor topic <da...@oracle.com>.
Well, looking at
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/34/consoleText
I see
"os.arch=arm"
"sun.arch.abi=gnueabihf"
While https://builds.apache.org/computer/ubuntu1/systemInfo is an amd64
system. ;)
cheers,
dalibor topic
On 17.01.2014 18:56, Robert Scholte wrote:
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/34/
>
>
> this seems to be the latest valid run. A few plugins fail due the JDK8
> related (hence, that's why this job was created). It took 6 hr 23 min.
> to finish this job.
>
> Stephen Connolly also mentions the following:
> "isn't ubuntu_ARM_12 an ARM machine and not amd64
> ubuntu1-6 are all amd64 AFAIR"
>
> Maybe these systems are too different to make a comparison, would be
> nice if we could benchmark it somehow on equivalent environments.
>
> Robert
>
> Op Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:35:31 +0100 schreef dalibor topic
> <da...@oracle.com>:
>
>>
>>
>> On 17.01.2014 18:17, Robert Scholte wrote:
>>
>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/
>>>
>>>
>>> #42 3 hr 50 min ubuntu_ARM_12
>>
>> Looking at
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/42/console
>> is seems like there are some network connection issues:
>>
>> [WARNING] Unable to get resource
>> 'org.apache.maven.plugin-tools:maven-plugin-tools-javadoc:pom:2.4.2'
>> from repository central (http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2): Error
>> transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
>> [WARNING] Unable to get resource
>> 'org.apache.maven.plugin-tools:maven-plugin-tools-javadoc:pom:2.4.2'
>> from repository central (http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2): Error
>> transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
>> [INFO] snapshot
>> org.apache.maven.plugins.maven-javadoc-plugin.unit:stylesheetfile-test:1.0-SNAPSHOT:
>> checking for updates from central
>> [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'snapshot
>> org.apache.maven.plugins.maven-javadoc-plugin.unit:stylesheetfile-test:1.0-SNAPSHOT'
>> could not be retrieved from repository: central due to an error: Error
>> transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
>>
>> etc.
>>
>> If something's timing out, that might explain the difference.
>>
>> cheers,
>> dalibor topic
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on
java.net
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/34/
this seems to be the latest valid run. A few plugins fail due the JDK8
related (hence, that's why this job was created). It took 6 hr 23 min. to
finish this job.
Stephen Connolly also mentions the following:
"isn't ubuntu_ARM_12 an ARM machine and not amd64
ubuntu1-6 are all amd64 AFAIR"
Maybe these systems are too different to make a comparison, would be nice
if we could benchmark it somehow on equivalent environments.
Robert
Op Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:35:31 +0100 schreef dalibor topic
<da...@oracle.com>:
>
>
> On 17.01.2014 18:17, Robert Scholte wrote:
>
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/
>>
>> #42 3 hr 50 min ubuntu_ARM_12
>
> Looking at
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/42/console
> is seems like there are some network connection issues:
>
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource
> 'org.apache.maven.plugin-tools:maven-plugin-tools-javadoc:pom:2.4.2'
> from repository central (http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2): Error
> transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
> [WARNING] Unable to get resource
> 'org.apache.maven.plugin-tools:maven-plugin-tools-javadoc:pom:2.4.2'
> from repository central (http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2): Error
> transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
> [INFO] snapshot
> org.apache.maven.plugins.maven-javadoc-plugin.unit:stylesheetfile-test:1.0-SNAPSHOT:
> checking for updates from central
> [WARNING] repository metadata for: 'snapshot
> org.apache.maven.plugins.maven-javadoc-plugin.unit:stylesheetfile-test:1.0-SNAPSHOT'
> could not be retrieved from repository: central due to an error: Error
> transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
>
> etc.
>
> If something's timing out, that might explain the difference.
>
> cheers,
> dalibor topic
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by dalibor topic <da...@oracle.com>.
On 17.01.2014 18:17, Robert Scholte wrote:
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/
>
> #42 3 hr 50 min ubuntu_ARM_12
Looking at
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/42/console
is seems like there are some network connection issues:
[WARNING] Unable to get resource
'org.apache.maven.plugin-tools:maven-plugin-tools-javadoc:pom:2.4.2'
from repository central (http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2): Error
transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
[WARNING] Unable to get resource
'org.apache.maven.plugin-tools:maven-plugin-tools-javadoc:pom:2.4.2'
from repository central (http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2): Error
transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
[INFO] snapshot
org.apache.maven.plugins.maven-javadoc-plugin.unit:stylesheetfile-test:1.0-SNAPSHOT:
checking for updates from central
[WARNING] repository metadata for: 'snapshot
org.apache.maven.plugins.maven-javadoc-plugin.unit:stylesheetfile-test:1.0-SNAPSHOT'
could not be retrieved from repository: central due to an error: Error
transferring file: repo.maven.apache.org
etc.
If something's timing out, that might explain the difference.
cheers,
dalibor topic
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland" <ro...@oracle.com>.
On 17/01/2014 17:17, Robert Scholte wrote:
> Hi Rory,
>
> I've just submitted the javadoc issue, Bug ID: 9009740
Hi Robert above can be tracked at :
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8032205
As for the performance issue , we need to compare apples with apples
first, do let
us know if there is still an issue once you have a suitable setup.
Rgds,Rory
>
>
> Regarding the performance, here are some stats:
>
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.7/
>
> https://builds.apache.org/computer/ubuntu1/systemInfo
>
> #146 Jan 12, 2014 9:58:11 PM 4 MB 1 hr 5 min ubuntu1
> #142 Jan 10, 2014 9:44:34 PM 4 MB 1 hr 2 min ubuntu3
> #138 Jan 3, 2014 7:46:49 AM 4 MB 1 hr 4 min ubuntu3
> #135 Jan 2, 2014 12:26:26 PM 4 MB 1 hr 1 min ubuntu3
> #134 Jan 2, 2014 6:46:34 AM 4 MB 1 hr 24 min ubuntu3
>
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/
>
> #42 3 hr 50 min ubuntu_ARM_12
> #41 4 min 21 sec ubuntu_ARM_12
> #40 3 hr 54 min ubuntu_ARM_12
> #39 4 min 44 sec ubuntu_ARM_12
> #38 4 min 23 sec ubuntu_ARM_12
> #37 3 hr 16 min ubuntu_ARM_12
> #36 3 hr 11 min ubuntu_ARM_12
> #35 3 hr 17 min ubuntu_ARM_12
> #34 6 hr 23 min ubuntu_ARM_12
> #33 3 hr 4 min ubuntu_ARM_12
> #32 3 hr 10 min ubuntu_ARM_12
> #31 5 hr 59 min ubuntu_ARM_12
>
> Some additional info:
> The only difference should be the JDK.
> Right now the ubuntu_ARM_12 is down, so I can't give any details about
> that system.
> I've only listed the completed and successful jdk-1.7 runs, jdk-1.8
> still has failures.
>
> The difference is huge, even though these are different machines.
> It would be better if both were executed on the same environment, but
> that's probably not possible right now.
>
> thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> Op Thu, 16 Jan 2014 12:13:31 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle,
> Dublin Ireland <ro...@oracle.com>:
>
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> Any update on details on the performance issue ?
>> Secondly , did you log a bug for the javadoc issues ?
>>
>> Rgds, Rory
>> On 14/01/2014 13:21, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland wrote:
>>> Hi Robert,
>>>
>>> Comments below.
>>>
>>> On 13/01/2014 19:36, Robert Scholte wrote:
>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>
>>>> The Apache Maven team has introduced a wiki page[1] to keep track
>>>> of JDK8 specific issues.
>>>> These are results when we started to build+test all our plugins
>>>> with JDK8.
>>>>
>>>> We see that the javadoc executable has become stricter.
>>>> Especially the "reference not found" is tricky, since there's a
>>>> good chance the sources are from a dependency, something we cannot
>>>> change. The only workaround I could find was adding a
>>>> excludePackageNames for the specific class, but this will exclude
>>>> all classes of that package
>>>> Another issue with the javadoc executable is that the
>>>> excludedocfilessubdir argument is ignored (on Win7). This seems to
>>>> be regression.
>>> Can you log a web bug for this please. let me know the Incident
>>> number and I can monitor it's
>>> progress.
>>>>
>>>> There is probably also regression in the jarsigner executable when
>>>> verifying fails, see MJARSIGNER-30.
>>>>
>>> I noticed https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572 is logged
>>> via a web bug from
>>> tchemit@apache.org , thank you for that.
>>>
>>> Dalibor has written in his blog how to monitor your issues in the
>>> JDK Bug System -
>>> http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html.
>>>
>>>
>>>> We don't have serious benchmarks, but until now JDK8 has always
>>>> been slower compared to JDK7.
>>>>
>>> Can you provide more details, log a bug ?
>>>
>>> Rgds, Rory
>>>> We've only started with testing the Maven plugins together with
>>>> JDK8, we could add some other projects as well.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Java+8+Upgrade
>>>> [2] https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJARSIGNER-30
>>>>
>>>> Op Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle,
>>>> Dublin ireland <ro...@oracle.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>>>> We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !
>>>>> no problem.
>>>>>> The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
>>>>>> (like issue watching !)
>>>>> Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor
>>>>> wrote
>>>>> in his blog about tracking your issues
>>>>> In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
>>>>>> reporting this issue "6 months ago". 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
>>>>>> "feature complete" according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is
>>>>>> *huge*
>>>>>> and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think
>>>>>> most of
>>>>>> us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
>>>>>> that is "just" feature complete.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs
>>>>> early is
>>>>> in everyone's interest.
>>>>>> Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
>>>>>> we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
>>>>>> break; and they break in weird places & highly unexpected
>>>>>> manners. So
>>>>>> realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
>>>>>> with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
>>>>>> bit more risk-willing than us :)
>>>>> I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's
>>>>>> quite
>>>>>> a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
>>>>>> in good time before GA.
>>>>> Delighted to hear that!
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get
>>>>> fixed
>>>>> in an update release.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
>>>>>> <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781> gets released
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> a nightly.
>>>>> Thanks, Rory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am following sun bug 9009028,
>>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>>>>> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
>>>>>>> far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
>>>>>>> would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of
>>>>>>> jdk8
>>>>>>> compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
>>>>>>> 9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
>>>>>>> open, it may hide other problems. So with my "tester" hat
>>>>>>> on; we
>>>>>>> have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
>>>>>>> get an idea about how much community
>>>>>>> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those
>>>>>>> published by Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
>>>>>>> more of it to happen see:
>>>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK
>>>>>>> 7u60 EA builds, if you've run into showstopper
>>>>>>> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the
>>>>>>> subject
>>>>>>> on the quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
>>>>>>> of course.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am aware of
>>>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 , if there
>>>>>>> are any other issues please let
>>>>>>> me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for
>>>>>>> download <http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
>>>>>>> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for
>>>>>>> download <https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on
java.net
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
Hi Rory,
I've just submitted the javadoc issue, Bug ID: 9009740
Regarding the performance, here are some stats:
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.7/
https://builds.apache.org/computer/ubuntu1/systemInfo
#146 Jan 12, 2014 9:58:11 PM 4 MB 1 hr 5 min ubuntu1
#142 Jan 10, 2014 9:44:34 PM 4 MB 1 hr 2 min ubuntu3
#138 Jan 3, 2014 7:46:49 AM 4 MB 1 hr 4 min ubuntu3
#135 Jan 2, 2014 12:26:26 PM 4 MB 1 hr 1 min ubuntu3
#134 Jan 2, 2014 6:46:34 AM 4 MB 1 hr 24 min ubuntu3
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-plugins-ITs-m3.1.x-with-maven-plugin-jdk-1.8/
#42 3 hr 50 min ubuntu_ARM_12
#41 4 min 21 sec ubuntu_ARM_12
#40 3 hr 54 min ubuntu_ARM_12
#39 4 min 44 sec ubuntu_ARM_12
#38 4 min 23 sec ubuntu_ARM_12
#37 3 hr 16 min ubuntu_ARM_12
#36 3 hr 11 min ubuntu_ARM_12
#35 3 hr 17 min ubuntu_ARM_12
#34 6 hr 23 min ubuntu_ARM_12
#33 3 hr 4 min ubuntu_ARM_12
#32 3 hr 10 min ubuntu_ARM_12
#31 5 hr 59 min ubuntu_ARM_12
Some additional info:
The only difference should be the JDK.
Right now the ubuntu_ARM_12 is down, so I can't give any details about
that system.
I've only listed the completed and successful jdk-1.7 runs, jdk-1.8 still
has failures.
The difference is huge, even though these are different machines.
It would be better if both were executed on the same environment, but
that's probably not possible right now.
thanks,
Robert
Op Thu, 16 Jan 2014 12:13:31 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin
Ireland <ro...@oracle.com>:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Any update on details on the performance issue ?
> Secondly , did you log a bug for the javadoc issues ?
>
> Rgds, Rory
> On 14/01/2014 13:21, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> Comments below.
>>
>> On 13/01/2014 19:36, Robert Scholte wrote:
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> The Apache Maven team has introduced a wiki page[1] to keep track of
>>> JDK8 specific issues.
>>> These are results when we started to build+test all our plugins with
>>> JDK8.
>>>
>>> We see that the javadoc executable has become stricter.
>>> Especially the "reference not found" is tricky, since there's a good
>>> chance the sources are from a dependency, something we cannot change.
>>> The only workaround I could find was adding a excludePackageNames for
>>> the specific class, but this will exclude all classes of that package
>>> Another issue with the javadoc executable is that the
>>> excludedocfilessubdir argument is ignored (on Win7). This seems to be
>>> regression.
>> Can you log a web bug for this please. let me know the Incident number
>> and I can monitor it's
>> progress.
>>>
>>> There is probably also regression in the jarsigner executable when
>>> verifying fails, see MJARSIGNER-30.
>>>
>> I noticed https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572 is logged
>> via a web bug from
>> tchemit@apache.org , thank you for that.
>>
>> Dalibor has written in his blog how to monitor your issues in the JDK
>> Bug System -
>> http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html.
>>
>>
>>> We don't have serious benchmarks, but until now JDK8 has always been
>>> slower compared to JDK7.
>>>
>> Can you provide more details, log a bug ?
>>
>> Rgds, Rory
>>> We've only started with testing the Maven plugins together with JDK8,
>>> we could add some other projects as well.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Java+8+Upgrade
>>> [2] https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJARSIGNER-30
>>>
>>> Op Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle,
>>> Dublin ireland <ro...@oracle.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your comments.
>>>>
>>>> On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>>> We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !
>>>> no problem.
>>>>> The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
>>>>> (like issue watching !)
>>>> Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor
>>>> wrote
>>>> in his blog about tracking your issues
>>>> In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
>>>>> reporting this issue "6 months ago". 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
>>>>> "feature complete" according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is
>>>>> *huge*
>>>>> and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think most
>>>>> of
>>>>> us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
>>>>> that is "just" feature complete.
>>>>>
>>>> I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs early
>>>> is
>>>> in everyone's interest.
>>>>> Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
>>>>> we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
>>>>> break; and they break in weird places & highly unexpected manners. So
>>>>> realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
>>>>> with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
>>>>> bit more risk-willing than us :)
>>>> I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's
>>>>> quite
>>>>> a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
>>>>> in good time before GA.
>>>> Delighted to hear that!
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get
>>>> fixed
>>>> in an update release.
>>>>
>>>>> I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
>>>>> <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781> gets released into
>>>>> a nightly.
>>>> Thanks, Rory
>>>>>
>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am following sun bug 9009028,
>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>>>> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
>>>>>> far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
>>>>>> would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of
>>>>>> jdk8
>>>>>> compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
>>>>>> 9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
>>>>>> open, it may hide other problems. So with my "tester" hat on; we
>>>>>> have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
>>>>>> get an idea about how much community
>>>>>> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those
>>>>>> published by Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
>>>>>> more of it to happen see:
>>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK
>>>>>> 7u60 EA builds, if you've run into showstopper
>>>>>> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject
>>>>>> on the quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
>>>>>> of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am aware of
>>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 , if there
>>>>>> are any other issues please let
>>>>>> me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for
>>>>>> download <http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
>>>>>> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for
>>>>>> download <https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>>
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland" <ro...@oracle.com>.
Thanks Tony, I will update the bug when you send feedback.
Rgds,Rory
On 16/01/2014 14:27, Tony Chemit wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:04:58 +0000
> "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland" <ro...@oracle.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Robert/Tony,
>>
>> Can you gives us an understanding of the impact to Maven of bug
>>
>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572
> Hi Rory,
>
> Maybe just reordering jar entries will fix this if I cleary understand Weijun comment on the issue.
>
> The bug was detected on a tampered jar so on a integration test so the impact should be low if people use *normal* jar.
>
> I will try to reorder the jar entries of the tampered jar and come back to you just after.
>
> Best regards,
>
> tony.
>
>
>
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on
java.net
Posted by Tony Chemit <tc...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:04:58 +0000
"Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland" <ro...@oracle.com> wrote:
> Hi Robert/Tony,
>
> Can you gives us an understanding of the impact to Maven of bug
>
> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572
Hi Rory,
Maybe just reordering jar entries will fix this if I cleary understand Weijun comment on the issue.
The bug was detected on a tampered jar so on a integration test so the impact should be low if people use *normal* jar.
I will try to reorder the jar entries of the tampered jar and come back to you just after.
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland" <ro...@oracle.com>.
Hi Robert/Tony,
Can you gives us an understanding of the impact to Maven of bug
https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572
Rgds,Rory
On 16/01/2014 11:13, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Any update on details on the performance issue ?
> Secondly , did you log a bug for the javadoc issues ?
>
> Rgds, Rory
> On 14/01/2014 13:21, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>> Comments below.
>>
>> On 13/01/2014 19:36, Robert Scholte wrote:
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> The Apache Maven team has introduced a wiki page[1] to keep track of
>>> JDK8 specific issues.
>>> These are results when we started to build+test all our plugins with
>>> JDK8.
>>>
>>> We see that the javadoc executable has become stricter.
>>> Especially the "reference not found" is tricky, since there's a good
>>> chance the sources are from a dependency, something we cannot
>>> change. The only workaround I could find was adding a
>>> excludePackageNames for the specific class, but this will exclude
>>> all classes of that package
>>> Another issue with the javadoc executable is that the
>>> excludedocfilessubdir argument is ignored (on Win7). This seems to
>>> be regression.
>> Can you log a web bug for this please. let me know the Incident
>> number and I can monitor it's
>> progress.
>>>
>>> There is probably also regression in the jarsigner executable when
>>> verifying fails, see MJARSIGNER-30.
>>>
>> I noticed https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572 is logged
>> via a web bug from
>> tchemit@apache.org , thank you for that.
>>
>> Dalibor has written in his blog how to monitor your issues in the JDK
>> Bug System -
>> http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html.
>>
>>
>>> We don't have serious benchmarks, but until now JDK8 has always been
>>> slower compared to JDK7.
>>>
>> Can you provide more details, log a bug ?
>>
>> Rgds, Rory
>>> We've only started with testing the Maven plugins together with
>>> JDK8, we could add some other projects as well.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Java+8+Upgrade
>>> [2] https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJARSIGNER-30
>>>
>>> Op Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle,
>>> Dublin ireland <ro...@oracle.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your comments.
>>>>
>>>> On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>>> We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !
>>>> no problem.
>>>>> The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
>>>>> (like issue watching !)
>>>> Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor
>>>> wrote
>>>> in his blog about tracking your issues
>>>> In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
>>>>> reporting this issue "6 months ago". 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
>>>>> "feature complete" according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is
>>>>> *huge*
>>>>> and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think
>>>>> most of
>>>>> us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
>>>>> that is "just" feature complete.
>>>>>
>>>> I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs
>>>> early is
>>>> in everyone's interest.
>>>>> Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
>>>>> we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
>>>>> break; and they break in weird places & highly unexpected manners. So
>>>>> realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
>>>>> with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
>>>>> bit more risk-willing than us :)
>>>> I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's
>>>>> quite
>>>>> a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
>>>>> in good time before GA.
>>>> Delighted to hear that!
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get
>>>> fixed
>>>> in an update release.
>>>>
>>>>> I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
>>>>> <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781> gets released into
>>>>> a nightly.
>>>> Thanks, Rory
>>>>>
>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am following sun bug 9009028,
>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>>>> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
>>>>>> far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
>>>>>> would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of
>>>>>> jdk8
>>>>>> compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
>>>>>> 9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
>>>>>> open, it may hide other problems. So with my "tester" hat on; we
>>>>>> have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
>>>>>> get an idea about how much community
>>>>>> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those
>>>>>> published by Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
>>>>>> more of it to happen see:
>>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK
>>>>>> 7u60 EA builds, if you've run into showstopper
>>>>>> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject
>>>>>> on the quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
>>>>>> of course.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am aware of
>>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 , if there
>>>>>> are any other issues please let
>>>>>> me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for
>>>>>> download <http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
>>>>>> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for
>>>>>> download <https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland" <ro...@oracle.com>.
Hi Robert,
Any update on details on the performance issue ?
Secondly , did you log a bug for the javadoc issues ?
Rgds, Rory
On 14/01/2014 13:21, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Comments below.
>
> On 13/01/2014 19:36, Robert Scholte wrote:
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> The Apache Maven team has introduced a wiki page[1] to keep track of
>> JDK8 specific issues.
>> These are results when we started to build+test all our plugins with
>> JDK8.
>>
>> We see that the javadoc executable has become stricter.
>> Especially the "reference not found" is tricky, since there's a good
>> chance the sources are from a dependency, something we cannot change.
>> The only workaround I could find was adding a excludePackageNames for
>> the specific class, but this will exclude all classes of that package
>> Another issue with the javadoc executable is that the
>> excludedocfilessubdir argument is ignored (on Win7). This seems to be
>> regression.
> Can you log a web bug for this please. let me know the Incident number
> and I can monitor it's
> progress.
>>
>> There is probably also regression in the jarsigner executable when
>> verifying fails, see MJARSIGNER-30.
>>
> I noticed https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572 is logged
> via a web bug from
> tchemit@apache.org , thank you for that.
>
> Dalibor has written in his blog how to monitor your issues in the JDK
> Bug System -
> http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html.
>
>
>> We don't have serious benchmarks, but until now JDK8 has always been
>> slower compared to JDK7.
>>
> Can you provide more details, log a bug ?
>
> Rgds, Rory
>> We've only started with testing the Maven plugins together with JDK8,
>> we could add some other projects as well.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Java+8+Upgrade
>> [2] https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJARSIGNER-30
>>
>> Op Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle,
>> Dublin ireland <ro...@oracle.com>:
>>
>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your comments.
>>>
>>> On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>> We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !
>>> no problem.
>>>> The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
>>>> (like issue watching !)
>>> Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor
>>> wrote
>>> in his blog about tracking your issues
>>> In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html
>>>>
>>>> There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
>>>> reporting this issue "6 months ago". 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
>>>> "feature complete" according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is *huge*
>>>> and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think most of
>>>> us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
>>>> that is "just" feature complete.
>>>>
>>> I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs early is
>>> in everyone's interest.
>>>> Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
>>>> we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
>>>> break; and they break in weird places & highly unexpected manners. So
>>>> realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
>>>> with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
>>>> bit more risk-willing than us :)
>>> I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?
>>>>
>>>> We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's quite
>>>> a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
>>>> in good time before GA.
>>> Delighted to hear that!
>>>
>>> Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get fixed
>>> in an update release.
>>>
>>>> I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
>>>> <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781> gets released into
>>>> a nightly.
>>> Thanks, Rory
>>>>
>>>> Kristian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>>
>>>> I am following sun bug 9009028,
>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
>>>>
>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>>> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
>>>>> far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>>>>>
>>>>> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
>>>>> would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of jdk8
>>>>> compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
>>>>> 9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
>>>>> open, it may hide other problems. So with my "tester" hat on; we
>>>>> have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kristian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
>>>>> get an idea about how much community
>>>>> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those
>>>>> published by Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
>>>>> more of it to happen see:
>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK
>>>>> 7u60 EA builds, if you've run into showstopper
>>>>> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject
>>>>> on the quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
>>>>> of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am aware of
>>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 , if there
>>>>> are any other issues please let
>>>>> me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for
>>>>> download <http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
>>>>> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for
>>>>> download <https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland" <ro...@oracle.com>.
Hi Robert,
Comments below.
On 13/01/2014 19:36, Robert Scholte wrote:
> Hi Rory,
>
> The Apache Maven team has introduced a wiki page[1] to keep track of
> JDK8 specific issues.
> These are results when we started to build+test all our plugins with
> JDK8.
>
> We see that the javadoc executable has become stricter.
> Especially the "reference not found" is tricky, since there's a good
> chance the sources are from a dependency, something we cannot change.
> The only workaround I could find was adding a excludePackageNames for
> the specific class, but this will exclude all classes of that package
> Another issue with the javadoc executable is that the
> excludedocfilessubdir argument is ignored (on Win7). This seems to be
> regression.
Can you log a web bug for this please. let me know the Incident number
and I can monitor it's
progress.
>
> There is probably also regression in the jarsigner executable when
> verifying fails, see MJARSIGNER-30.
>
I noticed https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8031572 is logged via
a web bug from
tchemit@apache.org , thank you for that.
Dalibor has written in his blog how to monitor your issues in the JDK
Bug System -
http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html.
> We don't have serious benchmarks, but until now JDK8 has always been
> slower compared to JDK7.
>
Can you provide more details, log a bug ?
Rgds, Rory
> We've only started with testing the Maven plugins together with JDK8,
> we could add some other projects as well.
>
> thanks,
>
> Robert
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Java+8+Upgrade
> [2] https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJARSIGNER-30
>
> Op Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle,
> Dublin ireland <ro...@oracle.com>:
>
>> Hi Kristian,
>>
>> Thank you for your comments.
>>
>> On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>> We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !
>> no problem.
>>> The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
>>> (like issue watching !)
>> Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor wrote
>> in his blog about tracking your issues
>> In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html
>>>
>>> There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
>>> reporting this issue "6 months ago". 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
>>> "feature complete" according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is *huge*
>>> and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think most of
>>> us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
>>> that is "just" feature complete.
>>>
>> I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs early is
>> in everyone's interest.
>>> Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
>>> we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
>>> break; and they break in weird places & highly unexpected manners. So
>>> realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
>>> with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
>>> bit more risk-willing than us :)
>> I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?
>>>
>>> We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's quite
>>> a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
>>> in good time before GA.
>> Delighted to hear that!
>>
>> Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get fixed
>> in an update release.
>>
>>> I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
>>> <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781> gets released into
>>> a nightly.
>> Thanks, Rory
>>>
>>> Kristian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>
>>> Hi Kristian,
>>>
>>> I am following sun bug 9009028,
>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
>>>
>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>
>>>
>>> On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>>> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
>>>> far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>>>>
>>>> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
>>>> would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of jdk8
>>>> compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
>>>> 9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
>>>> open, it may hide other problems. So with my "tester" hat on; we
>>>> have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Kristian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
>>>> get an idea about how much community
>>>> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those
>>>> published by Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
>>>> more of it to happen see:
>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK
>>>> 7u60 EA builds, if you've run into showstopper
>>>> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject
>>>> on the quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
>>>> of course.
>>>>
>>>> I am aware of
>>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 , if there
>>>> are any other issues please let
>>>> me know.
>>>>
>>>> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for
>>>> download <http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
>>>> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for
>>>> download <https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>>>>
>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>
>>>
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on
java.net
Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
Hi Rory,
The Apache Maven team has introduced a wiki page[1] to keep track of JDK8
specific issues.
These are results when we started to build+test all our plugins with JDK8.
We see that the javadoc executable has become stricter.
Especially the "reference not found" is tricky, since there's a good
chance the sources are from a dependency, something we cannot change. The
only workaround I could find was adding a excludePackageNames for the
specific class, but this will exclude all classes of that package
Another issue with the javadoc executable is that the
excludedocfilessubdir argument is ignored (on Win7). This seems to be
regression.
There is probably also regression in the jarsigner executable when
verifying fails, see MJARSIGNER-30.
We don't have serious benchmarks, but until now JDK8 has always been
slower compared to JDK7.
We've only started with testing the Maven plugins together with JDK8, we
could add some other projects as well.
thanks,
Robert
[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Java+8+Upgrade
[2] https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJARSIGNER-30
Op Mon, 06 Jan 2014 12:16:33 +0100 schreef Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin
ireland <ro...@oracle.com>:
> Hi Kristian,
>
> Thank you for your comments.
>
> On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>> We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !
> no problem.
>> The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
>> (like issue watching !)
> Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor wrote
> in his blog about tracking your issues
> In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html
>>
>> There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
>> reporting this issue "6 months ago". 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
>> "feature complete" according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is *huge*
>> and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think most of
>> us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
>> that is "just" feature complete.
>>
> I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs early is
> in everyone's interest.
>> Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
>> we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
>> break; and they break in weird places & highly unexpected manners. So
>> realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
>> with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
>> bit more risk-willing than us :)
> I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?
>>
>> We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's quite
>> a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
>> in good time before GA.
> Delighted to hear that!
>
> Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get fixed
> in an update release.
>
>> I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
>> <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781> gets released into
>> a nightly.
> Thanks, Rory
>>
>> Kristian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>
>> Hi Kristian,
>>
>> I am following sun bug 9009028,
>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
>>
>> Rgds,Rory
>>
>>
>> On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>>> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
>>> far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>>>
>>> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
>>> would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of jdk8
>>> compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
>>> 9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
>>> open, it may hide other problems. So with my "tester" hat on; we
>>> have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.
>>>
>>> Kristian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
>>> get an idea about how much community
>>> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those
>>> published by Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
>>> more of it to happen see:
>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK
>>> 7u60 EA builds, if you've run into showstopper
>>> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject
>>> on the quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
>>> of course.
>>>
>>> I am aware of
>>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 , if there
>>> are any other issues please let
>>> me know.
>>>
>>> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for
>>> download <http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
>>> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for
>>> download <https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>>>
>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>
>>> --
>>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>> Quality Engineering Manager
>>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>> Quality Engineering Manager
>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>
>>
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Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin ireland" <ro...@oracle.com>.
Hi Kristian,
Thank you for your comments.
On 01/ 3/14 02:12 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
> We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority !
no problem.
> The jdk issue tracker does not allow us much in the way of features
> (like issue watching !)
Yes, there is room for improvement there. In the mean time Dalibor wrote
in his blog about tracking your issues
In The JDK Bug System: http://robilad.livejournal.com/139637.html
>
> There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us
> reporting this issue "6 months ago". 6 months ago was M7, labeled as
> "feature complete" according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is *huge*
> and there's a fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think most of
> us on the maven team are reluctant to start testing with something
> that is "just" feature complete.
>
I think Alan's comment was more wishful thinking, finding bugs early is
in everyone's interest.
> Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since
> we're usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that
> break; and they break in weird places & highly unexpected manners. So
> realistically we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable
> with (which I find is M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a
> bit more risk-willing than us :)
I would love to discuss your testing with you in detail?
>
> We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's quite
> a few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
> in good time before GA.
Delighted to hear that!
Obviously, the later bugs are found the more likely they will get fixed
in an update release.
> I know I'll be picking up the verification once JDK-8030781
> <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781> gets released into
> a nightly.
Thanks, Rory
>
> Kristian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>
> Hi Kristian,
>
> I am following sun bug 9009028,
> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
>
> Rgds,Rory
>
>
> On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been
>> far too busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>>
>> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that
>> would, to a large extent, also function as a verification of jdk8
>> compatibility. Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug
>> 9009028, which I filed about a week ago. So while this bug is
>> open, it may hide other problems. So with my "tester" hat on; we
>> have one known bug that potentially hides interesting stuff.
>>
>> Kristian
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland
>> <rory.odonnell@oracle.com <ma...@oracle.com>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to
>> get an idea about how much community
>> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those
>> published by Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
>> more of it to happen see:
>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>>
>>
>> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK
>> 7u60 EA builds, if you've run into showstopper
>> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject
>> on the quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
>> of course.
>>
>> I am aware of
>> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 , if there
>> are any other issues please let
>> me know.
>>
>> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for
>> download <http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
>> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for
>> download <https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>>
>> Rgds,Rory
>>
>> --
>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>> Quality Engineering Manager
>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>
>>
>
> --
> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
> Quality Engineering Manager
> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>
>
--
Rgds,
Rory O'Donnell
Senior Quality Engineering Manager
Java Platform Group
Oracle EMEA , Block P5,
East Point Business Park, Dublin 3
Phone: +353 (0)1 8033887
Re: JDK 8 Build 121 & JDK 7 Update 60 build 02 are available on java.net
Posted by Kristian Rosenvold <kr...@gmail.com>.
We found the issue already, thanks for the bump in priority ! The jdk issue
tracker does not allow us much in the way of features (like issue watching
!)
There is a comment I'd like to make about the issue comment of us reporting
this issue "6 months ago". 6 months ago was M7, labeled as "feature
complete" according to the JDK8 plan. Our code base is *huge* and there's a
fair amount of weird stuff going on, and I think most of us on the maven
team are reluctant to start testing with something that is "just" feature
complete.
Finding and reporting this *one* issue took quite some effort, since we're
usually talking about tests written for *other* purposes that break; and
they break in weird places & highly unexpected manners. So realistically
we're testing at the earliest level we're comfortable with (which I find is
M8-ish). Less complex projects are probably a bit more risk-willing than us
:)
We have quite some momentum in our jdk8 testing now, and there's quite a
few of us who seem intent on verifying *everything*
in good time before GA. I know I'll be picking up the verification once
JDK-8030781 <https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781> gets
released into a nightly.
Kristian
2014/1/3 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland <ro...@oracle.com>
> Hi Kristian,
>
> I am following sun bug 9009028,
> https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781
>
> Rgds,Rory
>
>
> On 31/12/2013 20:38, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>
> Been meaning to answer this mail for a few days, but I've been far too
> busy skiing in the norwegian mountains :)
>
> We have some fairly extensive tests and integration tests that would, to
> a large extent, also function as a verification of jdk8 compatibility.
> Unfortunately most of them get stuck at sun bug 9009028, which I filed
> about a week ago. So while this bug is open, it may hide other problems. So
> with my "tester" hat on; we have one known bug that potentially hides
> interesting stuff.
>
> Kristian
>
>
>
> 2013/12/30 Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland <rory.odonnell@oracle.com
> >
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am from the OpenJDK QA group at Oracle, and I'm trying to get an idea
>> about how much community
>> testing is happening on JDK 8 EA builds (either those published by
>> Oracle, or your own) and to encourage
>> more of it to happen see:
>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/quality-discuss/2013-November/000152.html
>>
>> I'm curious if you have begun testing against JDK 8 or JDK 7u60 EA
>> builds, if you've run into showstopper
>> issues, and if you'd like to continue to discuss the subject on the
>> quality-discuss mailing list in OpenJDK,
>> of course.
>>
>> I am aware of https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8030781 , if
>> there are any other issues please let
>> me know.
>>
>> JDK 8 Build b121 Early Access Build is now available for download <
>> http://jdk8.java.net/download.html> & test.
>> JDK 7u60 b02 Early Access Build is also available for download <
>> https://jdk7.java.net/download.html>& test.
>>
>> Rgds,Rory
>>
>> --
>> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>> Quality Engineering Manager
>> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>
>>
>
> --
> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
> Quality Engineering Manager
> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>
>